Unfortunately, ranked mode is a game of numbers, and a positive winrate is exactly what it take to ladder up, alongside the skill sot pilot the deck correctly. I don't believe everyone should or has to play tier 1 to climb, but those decks are ranked tier 1 for a reason: they win more than other decks, so the facts remain that skill and creativity can't overcome the sheer math unless you're a Hearthstone god like so many pros are.
Can I ask what deck you're playing and in what mode (standard or wild)? Also, what rank you you usually hit (before the funk), and what's the highest rank you've ever hit? I'd love to try and offer some advice, because I've felt this way plenty of time, especially in the current meta.
Side note: the nerfs are coming! 4 days to go before we hopefully see a change.
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Rage quitting: the best way to ensure your opponent knows they beat a giant baby.
Thats the goal of the ladder game, win games and get up to legend. Why not do that with a high winrate deck? Can't expect people to play low winrate decks just cuz you don't like encountering the high winrate ones.
Just don't play ranked, works great. Barely played ladder for the last months due to boring paladin and boring warlock.
Well any deck with over 50% winrate is good enough. Next step is play A LOT and analyze every game you had and what you could have done better. You won? Still think back and see if you made any misplays and could have gotten a more certain win or if you forgot to play around some card (and you won just because your opponent didn’t draw it)... practice makes perfect. You don’t have to play top tier cancer, but you must be good at the deck that you are playing even if it is a meme deck and still need to anticipate what your opponent can do and play around it to the best of you ability (or recognize that you can’t play around anything anymore and it is face time or you just lose the match)
like some people say “auto lose” but there is no such thing, you still have 10-25% chance. It is not much but if you have a chance you need to know what cards you need to win and strive to do it every time even if odds are against you, and if odds are in your favor then try to win decisively and without any misplays anyway...
Unfortunately, ranked mode is a game of numbers, and a positive winrate is exactly what it take to ladder up, alongside the skill sot pilot the deck correctly. I don't believe everyone should or has to play tier 1 to climb, but those decks are ranked tier 1 for a reason: they win more than other decks, so the facts remain that skill and creativity can't overcome the sheer math unless you're a Hearthstone god like so many pros are.
Can I ask what deck you're playing and in what mode (standard or wild)? Also, what rank you you usually hit (before the funk), and what's the highest rank you've ever hit? I'd love to try and offer some advice, because I've felt this way plenty of time, especially in the current meta.
Side note: the nerfs are coming! 4 days to go before we hopefully see a change.
I float between standard and wild and i sank from 16 to 20 in standard. Wild ive been hovering at 15. I mess around alot with decks but i always tend to sway towards shaman, hunter, warlock, paladin and sometimes druid and warrior.
I'd try sticking with a deck to get deep into the mindset, maybe two to switch out if you hit a run of queues that you can counter (like a run of all even pallys or all spiteful druids).
Also, have you had anyone spectate your play time, or do you play vs friends and get feedback? That usually helps; I'm always game for a friendly match or a test match to help someone learn a deck's strengths and weaknesses. Oh, and tilt is very much a real thing. If you're pissed off at a bad run of like 5 losses in a row, take a break, go do something else for 10-15 minutes or play another mode, and try again.
Warlock and Druid are your top picks for laddering in standard, but for fun I'd recommend wild armor shaman (Dane's Shudderwock combo deck) if you have the cards. It can get run over quickly by aggro but has proven extremely fun vs anything slower than burn mage. I just beat a Spectral Cutlass rogue that had a 14/8 weapon with lifesteal. My shaman Shudder combo brought him to a slow and painful fatigue, even though he was technically dead many turns before.
Also, I'm going to include a link here to the wild hunter N'Zoth deck that I've been playing for the past few seasons and it is one of my favorite hunter decks of all time. It revolves heavily around Deathstalker Rexxar zombeast value and Play Dead synergy. Excellent once you get the hang of it.
I don't claim to be any kind of Hearthstone guru (there are loads of better players than me), but I hope this is helpful.
Best of luck, and don't submit to the tilt!
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Rage quitting: the best way to ensure your opponent knows they beat a giant baby.
Try playing wild. Not only is there a lot more room to experiment with crazy deck styles, but it seems like a good portion of the population does the same. At least from ranks 10-20.
Sure, picking a winning deck is in fact the way to win more and winning in ANY GAME brings you rewards.
I do believe you need to improve, as it is not hard to climb even a bit with a not so good deck, I speak from experience since my biggest source of fun in HS and every other game comes from playing the kind of decks I want and the cards I love and those not always work, so you have to work a little harder.
i dont why i try bothering climbing at all ranks in this game.
ive reached the auto concede status where i put myself all the way down to bottom.
I like playing this game but it really does only reward people that just pick a high win rate deck.
Save your git gud blah blah nonsense of your a bad player. Thanks for your thoughtful input.
Need advice how to break the funk im in.
You seem to know what you should be doing but you're preempting people from giving you the most basic and reliable advice in HS, or any competitive card game. Play a good deck and play it well (git gud), that's how to win ladder matches. If you're autoceding rather than trying to figure out winning lines in unfavorable matchups that's on you, people pick good decks in a competitive environment. If you're voluntarily playing an underpowered deck, you're playing a different game than your opponents who value winning over playstyle. Either accept that meta decks are popular because of their high power level or keep conceding, the choice is yours.
I wanna ladder up but want to play fun decks and not work hard! WAAA!!!
But Answer is still, fun deck might be ok, bu you still need to work hard no matter which deck you play... You need to work slightly less hard with top tier decks... There are people who reach legend with meme decks (for example Brian Kibler) but they still spend time learning meta so that they can anticipate what opponents doing, they know tech choices that need to be included to counter stuff... Meme decks can be good, but you need to know what you are doing, memes don't win the games by themselves...
I don't mind people who want to ladder and use the best deck to do that. I just hate that there's no mode where I can play experimental decks and meme decks without still running into a bunch of top tier decks (Casual ain't so casual most of the time).
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i dont why i try bothering climbing at all ranks in this game.
ive reached the auto concede status where i put myself all the way down to bottom.
I like playing this game but it really does only reward people that just pick a high win rate deck.
Save your git gud blah blah nonsense of your a bad player. Thanks for your thoughtful input.
Need advice how to break the funk im in.
Do or do not. There is no try.
Unfortunately, ranked mode is a game of numbers, and a positive winrate is exactly what it take to ladder up, alongside the skill sot pilot the deck correctly. I don't believe everyone should or has to play tier 1 to climb, but those decks are ranked tier 1 for a reason: they win more than other decks, so the facts remain that skill and creativity can't overcome the sheer math unless you're a Hearthstone god like so many pros are.
Can I ask what deck you're playing and in what mode (standard or wild)? Also, what rank you you usually hit (before the funk), and what's the highest rank you've ever hit? I'd love to try and offer some advice, because I've felt this way plenty of time, especially in the current meta.
Side note: the nerfs are coming! 4 days to go before we hopefully see a change.
Rage quitting: the best way to ensure your opponent knows they beat a giant baby.
My auto concede happens when I face rogues, and even though I pray for all gods, they still start that opressive quest against my sweet control decks.
being optimist: I still reached legend rank in witch wood april and may autoconceding to every single quest rogue
Thats the goal of the ladder game, win games and get up to legend.
Why not do that with a high winrate deck?
Can't expect people to play low winrate decks just cuz you don't like encountering the high winrate ones.
Just don't play ranked, works great.
Barely played ladder for the last months due to boring paladin and boring warlock.
I tend to go play Monster Hunter or Dungeon run when fed up with ladder.
I find the AI less irritating... usually. Lol
Well any deck with over 50% winrate is good enough. Next step is play A LOT and analyze every game you had and what you could have done better. You won? Still think back and see if you made any misplays and could have gotten a more certain win or if you forgot to play around some card (and you won just because your opponent didn’t draw it)... practice makes perfect. You don’t have to play top tier cancer, but you must be good at the deck that you are playing even if it is a meme deck and still need to anticipate what your opponent can do and play around it to the best of you ability (or recognize that you can’t play around anything anymore and it is face time or you just lose the match)
like some people say “auto lose” but there is no such thing, you still have 10-25% chance. It is not much but if you have a chance you need to know what cards you need to win and strive to do it every time even if odds are against you, and if odds are in your favor then try to win decisively and without any misplays anyway...
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Do or do not. There is no try.
RARELY do i play rogue or priest but i like the thief mechanics of both.
Do or do not. There is no try.
I'd try sticking with a deck to get deep into the mindset, maybe two to switch out if you hit a run of queues that you can counter (like a run of all even pallys or all spiteful druids).
Also, have you had anyone spectate your play time, or do you play vs friends and get feedback? That usually helps; I'm always game for a friendly match or a test match to help someone learn a deck's strengths and weaknesses. Oh, and tilt is very much a real thing. If you're pissed off at a bad run of like 5 losses in a row, take a break, go do something else for 10-15 minutes or play another mode, and try again.
Warlock and Druid are your top picks for laddering in standard, but for fun I'd recommend wild armor shaman (Dane's Shudderwock combo deck) if you have the cards. It can get run over quickly by aggro but has proven extremely fun vs anything slower than burn mage. I just beat a Spectral Cutlass rogue that had a 14/8 weapon with lifesteal. My shaman Shudder combo brought him to a slow and painful fatigue, even though he was technically dead many turns before.
Also, I'm going to include a link here to the wild hunter N'Zoth deck that I've been playing for the past few seasons and it is one of my favorite hunter decks of all time. It revolves heavily around Deathstalker Rexxar zombeast value and Play Dead synergy. Excellent once you get the hang of it.
I don't claim to be any kind of Hearthstone guru (there are loads of better players than me), but I hope this is helpful.
Best of luck, and don't submit to the tilt!
Rage quitting: the best way to ensure your opponent knows they beat a giant baby.
Go with homebrewing and customisation: the satisfaction of winning with your own plan makes up for the lower winrate.
I mean, as long as you stay above t3 you can ladder up to decent ranks, given enough patience.
Try playing wild. Not only is there a lot more room to experiment with crazy deck styles, but it seems like a good portion of the population does the same. At least from ranks 10-20.
“The game rewards people that pick the decks that win”
Yep.
Sure, picking a winning deck is in fact the way to win more and winning in ANY GAME brings you rewards.
I do believe you need to improve, as it is not hard to climb even a bit with a not so good deck, I speak from experience since my biggest source of fun in HS and every other game comes from playing the kind of decks I want and the cards I love and those not always work, so you have to work a little harder.
You have fallen deep in the salt mines my friend. You need stop the mining and get to the surface to see the sun!(aka take a break).
The game always rewarded specific decks,The fact that bothers you now,proves you are tired of it.
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I wanna ladder up but want to play fun decks and not work hard! WAAA!!!
But Answer is still, fun deck might be ok, bu you still need to work hard no matter which deck you play... You need to work slightly less hard with top tier decks... There are people who reach legend with meme decks (for example Brian Kibler) but they still spend time learning meta so that they can anticipate what opponents doing, they know tech choices that need to be included to counter stuff... Meme decks can be good, but you need to know what you are doing, memes don't win the games by themselves...
I am envoy from nowhere in nowhere. Nobody and nothing have sent me. And though it is impossible I exist. ©Trimutius
You have to play decks that can beat other decks on ladder to beat other decks on ladder. I don't know why that concept is racking your brain.
Honestly, if you auto concede a lot you can try analyze your matchups and how you win or lose them and adapt your deck accordingly.
I don't mind people who want to ladder and use the best deck to do that. I just hate that there's no mode where I can play experimental decks and meme decks without still running into a bunch of top tier decks (Casual ain't so casual most of the time).