U guys realize barnes isnt thenproblem right? Vargoth is 4 mana and a better play than barnes turn 4
Yeah but Big Priest was a problem BEFORE Vargoth was printed, so we have to look at other cards in their arsenal too if we want it to stop being obnoxious.
At it's core, resurrect effects are the issue, not barnes, not cheating minions out. You can nerf mana cheating cards until the cows come home, as long as there is a resurrect effect, it'll remain broken regardless.
Something along the lines of "Resurrect a minion that you played this game" rather than a minion that is "summoned" or indeed "Any". That wording alone INSTANTLY makes mana cheated minions virtually worthless as they wouldn't:
- Revive from resurrects
- Revive from Gul'Dan
- They would technically revive from N'zoth still, however (You'd have to allow that or N'zoth becomes less appealing)
The above change is drastic but it would kill off big priest immediately as they wouldn't be able to revive minions summoned via Barnes or Shadow Essence.
Dont write as if ur ideas would have been already applied.
Barnes 5 as much, 4 is fine.
Quartermaster should cost 6 or even 7 and get +1 stat.
Voidcaller 5-6 would be fair.
Raiding party shouldnt be touched, is balanced as it is, 3 mana 2 card draw limited to a tribe (so u can get out of draws with it) and +1 draw if combo. Balanced.
Kingsbane is fine as it is, if u remove the enchantments u ruin the weapon, u want another warsong commander? Maybe put it as 2 mana weapon.
Leeroy could be hall of famed, yes. But also should all priest double health combo, savage roar and maybe gadgeztan auctiooner. So wait to see wich new cards blizzard add to replace the already hall of famed cards before suggesting to hof any other one.
You're worst on nerfs than blizzard, that has to be a new milestone.
Changing the mana cost of a card is the absolute laziest way to "nerf" it, it either completely kills a card or it does nothing cause it's still powerful for 1 more mana, you must be new or very inexperienced.
And I'm not saying that because of pure salt or to flame you... You can actually see how little you know about the game because you said that a "nerf" for Voidcaller would be to remove the demon tag from it, what you don't realize is that doing that would be an amazing buff for it and for cubelock in general, imagine having a card with the same effect (Pulling a demon out of your hand into the board when it dies) but not having to worry about getting Voidcaller out of your Skull of the Man'ari(You want to get Voidlord, Doomguard or Mal'Ganis every time and depending on the situation) and also not having a bad demon that clogs your Bloodreaver Gul'dan's battlecry... Sounds like the nuts to me, so you should really double check what are you considering a nerf cause it clearly is the opposite.
Dont write as if ur ideas would have been already applied.
Barnes 5 as much, 4 is fine.
Quartermaster should cost 6 or even 7 and get +1 stat.
Voidcaller 5-6 would be fair.
Raiding party shouldnt be touched, is balanced as it is, 3 mana 2 card draw limited to a tribe (so u can get out of draws with it) and +1 draw if combo. Balanced.
Kingsbane is fine as it is, if u remove the enchantments u ruin the weapon, u want another warsong commander? Maybe put it as 2 mana weapon.
Leeroy could be hall of famed, yes. But also should all priest double health combo, savage roar and maybe gadgeztan auctiooner. So wait to see wich new cards blizzard add to replace the already hall of famed cards before suggesting to hof any other one.
ok i got flamed last time i made thread like this pls no more
barnes now costs 6 mana
quartermaster now costs 6 mana
voidcaller now costs 5 mana and no longer a demon?
raiding party now costs 4 mana and only draws 1 pirate or costs 5 mana
kingsbane now does not keep its enchantments if destroyed by weapon removal
leeroy is now in hall of fame?
here have a nice report
thanks bro! xDD
Why did you word it as if the cards have actually been nerfed?
"raiding party now costs 4 mana and only draws 1 pirate"
Not much of a party then, is it? more like Raiding Loner.
On a more serious note, I hope this is a troll thread because those changes are terrible and for the most part make no sense at all.
yes true sorry
probably because i really think something like this will happen
None competitive player - just for fun and laughs.
As opposed to someone who doesn't understand card design.
U guys realize barnes isnt thenproblem right? Vargoth is 4 mana and a better play than barnes turn 4
Yeah but Big Priest was a problem BEFORE Vargoth was printed, so we have to look at other cards in their arsenal too if we want it to stop being obnoxious.
At it's core, resurrect effects are the issue, not barnes, not cheating minions out. You can nerf mana cheating cards until the cows come home, as long as there is a resurrect effect, it'll remain broken regardless.
Something along the lines of "Resurrect a minion that you played this game" rather than a minion that is "summoned" or indeed "Any". That wording alone INSTANTLY makes mana cheated minions virtually worthless as they wouldn't:
- Revive from resurrects
- Revive from Gul'Dan
- They would technically revive from N'zoth still, however (You'd have to allow that or N'zoth becomes less appealing)
The above change is drastic but it would kill off big priest immediately as they wouldn't be able to revive minions summoned via Barnes or Shadow Essence.
u gotta be trolling xd
Dont write as if ur ideas would have been already applied.
Barnes 5 as much, 4 is fine.
Quartermaster should cost 6 or even 7 and get +1 stat.
Voidcaller 5-6 would be fair.
Raiding party shouldnt be touched, is balanced as it is, 3 mana 2 card draw limited to a tribe (so u can get out of draws with it) and +1 draw if combo. Balanced.
Kingsbane is fine as it is, if u remove the enchantments u ruin the weapon, u want another warsong commander? Maybe put it as 2 mana weapon.
Leeroy could be hall of famed, yes. But also should all priest double health combo, savage roar and maybe gadgeztan auctiooner. So wait to see wich new cards blizzard add to replace the already hall of famed cards before suggesting to hof any other one.
You're worst on nerfs than blizzard, that has to be a new milestone.
Changing the mana cost of a card is the absolute laziest way to "nerf" it, it either completely kills a card or it does nothing cause it's still powerful for 1 more mana, you must be new or very inexperienced.
And I'm not saying that because of pure salt or to flame you... You can actually see how little you know about the game because you said that a "nerf" for Voidcaller would be to remove the demon tag from it, what you don't realize is that doing that would be an amazing buff for it and for cubelock in general, imagine having a card with the same effect (Pulling a demon out of your hand into the board when it dies) but not having to worry about getting Voidcaller out of your Skull of the Man'ari(You want to get Voidlord, Doomguard or Mal'Ganis every time and depending on the situation) and also not having a bad demon that clogs your Bloodreaver Gul'dan's battlecry... Sounds like the nuts to me, so you should really double check what are you considering a nerf cause it clearly is the opposite.
ye this is pretty reasonable i can agree with u
fuck everyone else tho tbh big retards
And again almost no control cards are suggested to be nerfed.
Boring biased control thread is boring.
Can you control players do anything other than trying to make your own playstyle king of the hill? You aren't meant to win against everything.