It´s been the same every expansion... "Class X is too strong... the card quality is way to good... it´s not fun to play against... etc. etc."
Most classes had it´s ups and downs... now looking at this expansion, Warrior seems to be really strong and everwhere where i read about Warrior he´s been hated because of either Control or Bombs.
Why do ppl complain about this topic every expansion? especially so early into the meta... i mean last expansions we literally had only Paladin, Hunter and a bit of Warlock on the best spot and now when Warrior seems good it´s Warrior who´s so cancerous?
Let´s just enjoy the new fresh meta and stop making posts about nerfs to class X.
Community is fine. Hearthpwn community is the breeding ground of whiners who can't git gud. There are exceptions, ofc, but every day we have our share of rank 50 bads crying that their garbagefire homebrew deck is getting stomped by decks that actually work
Who are u to determind what´s fun to play against and what isn´t? It´s okay to nerf a class because u don´t like it being superior to other classes? So let´s get Hunter and Paladin back to Tier 1 so no other classes can be good again? That´s such a selfish opinion.
The most hilarious thing u said was "Warrior has currently the best tools of removal" which points at "Warpath , Omega Devastator , Dyn-o-matic and Brawl" being the best removal tools in the game... are these better than the removal mage´s have? i wouldn´t say so...
But why wasn´t there a single thread about the removal tools Warrior had in prior expansion? Probably because Warrior was kinda shit before Rise of the Shadows and now since Warrior is good ppl point at Warrior´s OP classic set? That seems hilarious to say.
People are free to make threads on what they like unless they are threatening someone. You might not agree with them but it's their opinion.
Sure that´s a fine opinion but i would like to see more constructive posts about for example Warrior instead straight up pointing at needed nerfs... i´m not saying nobody has the right to do so tho.
Who are u to determind what´s fun to play against and what isn´t? It´s okay to nerf a class because u don´t like it being superior to other classes? So let´s get Hunter and Paladin back to Tier 1 so no other classes can be good again? That´s such a selfish opinion.
don't strawman me, boy
I want balance, and balance means that, as far as possible, all classes should sit at somewhat equal winrates with different decks. If one class stands out with one or multiple top tier decks then it's a problem.
Also, you're saying you want more constructive posts...guess what I did.
Complaining doesn't mean whining. It means pointing out a problem when you see it...and people see a problem with Warrior...some for the wrong reasons, but that's up to them
To be fair and while I concede that you do have a solid point of view, sadly Hearthstone is just one of those game that cannot be truly balanced in terms of ladder and the competitive scene. The game is fundamentally flawed and the developers themselves push for a particular class to be the driving force for an expanion or a particular year. Without a dedicated banlist and being really stingy when it comes to nerfing/buffing cards it is really hard to achieve the result you want.
That being said, it is important to note that Hearthstone had gone through periods of time when the majority of classes had some sort of representation on ladder and specifically tournaments. The latter is not particularly important to the average player but it's still a positive thing to point out.
While this is a moot point from my perspective since I play Wild, where every class has at least one viable archetype if not more, Standard just won't experience the same freedom and maybe that's a good thing since it divivdes the formats even more. This will allow you to find satisfaction in both rather than one just being a carbon copy of the other.
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Did i called ur thread about Warrior non constructive? i´m not saying u are wrong with ur statement about Warrior, it´s just too early to talk about nerfs since Warrior´s kit hasn´t ever been a problem for the meta and now with the addition with certain new cards we shall see if it will be a problem for the future.
Warrior is currently sitting at 2x Tier 1 decks and 1x Tier 2 deck in the "meta" if u can even call it a meta on Day 3... once people realize that most classes have a decent amount of tech cards against bomb warrior it won´t be as effective as it MIGHT be right now.
We need some "op, you're a moron" posters on the forum. Their job would be to go and post in every thread that asks for nerfs (or simply complains about some decks/cards) during the first two weeks of any expansion.
It's the only way to make them feel like crap and stop posting nonsense. If most of their threads would be filled with "op, you're a moron" posts, maybe they'll become afraid of posting and start thinking more.
Unfortunately this "community" is fueled by this game's target audience. Probably because they beg their parents to buy the bundles for them and such.
The most hilarious thing u said was "Warrior has currently the best tools of removal" which points at "Warpath , Omega Devastator , Dyn-o-matic and Brawl" being the best removal tools in the game... are these better than the removal mage´s have? i wouldn´t say so...
But why wasn´t there a single thread about the removal tools Warrior had in prior expansion? Probably because Warrior was kinda shit before Rise of the Shadows and now since Warrior is good ppl point at Warrior´s OP classic set? That seems hilarious to say.
We need some "op, you're a moron" posters on the forum. Their job would be to go and post in every thread that asks for nerfs (or simply complains about some decks/cards) during the first two weeks of any expansion.
It's the only way to make them feel like crap and stop posting nonsense. If most of their threads would be filled with "op, you're a moron" posts, maybe they'll become afraid of posting and start thinking more.
Unfortunately this "community" is fueled by this game's target audience. Probably because they beg their parents to buy the bundles for them and such.
There's already an over abundance of those sort of posters on this forum already. Every time someone posts anything even vaguely negative, you can guarantee about half a dozen self-righteous forumers will be calling the OP all sorts of derogatory terms and pretty much not helping the situation in the slightest. What would be better would be to have more posters who can demonstrate a little compassion and understanding when responding to people who are upset. You can always disagree with them - you just dont need to be a jerk when you do.
It's always funny how people instantly whine about new decks when everything is still being discovered. Hell, right now I'm just happy I don't have to face Turn 1 Prince Keleseth anymore. Or a Frost Lich Jaina flipping the game on its head. Or a Bloodreaver Gul'dan bringing back a board full of Voidlords.
It's fine really, everyone has their favourite classes and types of decks if the expansion and rotation weakens their class too much then of course they are going to feel annoyed. This is literally the most suitable place for people to post their criticism, and while it may sometimes be exaggurated or overblown it will often have some level of truth to how the deck is in game.
I don't understand why people like the OP are even bothered about other people getting frustrated with certain aspects if the game. If you think the game is fine and people shouldn't complain then just play it and appreciate that you quite lucky to have such a mindset.
It's always funny how people instantly whine about new decks when everything is still being discovered. Hell, right now I'm just happy I don't have to face Turn 1 Prince Keleseth anymore. Or a Frost Lich Jaina flipping the game on its head. Or a Bloodreaver Gul'dan bringing back a board full of Voidlords.
Or Voidlords in general. Or Fungalmancer. Or Odd Paladin. Or Even/Odd Rogue. It's possible to go on for hours, but I'm too busy today.
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I suppose the whole "How dare you claim there is anything wrong with my favourite game in case it persuades Blizzard to change it and I dont get easy wins any more..." trope has gone on for time imemorial. It's a rather lazy response to any sort of negativity born out of fear that the game might be made harder for you if it is batter balanced.
It's the internet, people just have to be complaining/whining about something or everything. lol
It's the same story over and over, a deck becomes strong so people start crying about it, then the next best deck comes along so people move to crying about that, just a vicious circle.
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It´s been the same every expansion... "Class X is too strong... the card quality is way to good... it´s not fun to play against... etc. etc."
Most classes had it´s ups and downs... now looking at this expansion, Warrior seems to be really strong and everwhere where i read about Warrior he´s been hated because of either Control or Bombs.
Why do ppl complain about this topic every expansion? especially so early into the meta... i mean last expansions we literally had only Paladin, Hunter and a bit of Warlock on the best spot and now when Warrior seems good it´s Warrior who´s so cancerous?
Let´s just enjoy the new fresh meta and stop making posts about nerfs to class X.
I am you choir. Preach it to me!
because it's not fun to play against any deck that disproportionately stronger than all the others?
also, who are you to tell people what they can and can't complain about?
I tried having fun once. It was awful.
Community is fine. Hearthpwn community is the breeding ground of whiners who can't git gud. There are exceptions, ofc, but every day we have our share of rank 50 bads crying that their garbagefire homebrew deck is getting stomped by decks that actually work
People are free to make threads on what they like unless they are threatening someone. You might not agree with them but it's their opinion.
Who are u to determind what´s fun to play against and what isn´t? It´s okay to nerf a class because u don´t like it being superior to other classes? So let´s get Hunter and Paladin back to Tier 1 so no other classes can be good again? That´s such a selfish opinion.
The most hilarious thing u said was "Warrior has currently the best tools of removal" which points at "Warpath , Omega Devastator , Dyn-o-matic and Brawl" being the best removal tools in the game... are these better than the removal mage´s have? i wouldn´t say so...
But why wasn´t there a single thread about the removal tools Warrior had in prior expansion? Probably because Warrior was kinda shit before Rise of the Shadows and now since Warrior is good ppl point at Warrior´s OP classic set? That seems hilarious to say.
Sure that´s a fine opinion but i would like to see more constructive posts about for example Warrior instead straight up pointing at needed nerfs... i´m not saying nobody has the right to do so tho.
don't strawman me, boy
I want balance, and balance means that, as far as possible, all classes should sit at somewhat equal winrates with different decks. If one class stands out with one or multiple top tier decks then it's a problem.
Also, you're saying you want more constructive posts...guess what I did.
Complaining doesn't mean whining. It means pointing out a problem when you see it...and people see a problem with Warrior...some for the wrong reasons, but that's up to them
I tried having fun once. It was awful.
To be fair and while I concede that you do have a solid point of view, sadly Hearthstone is just one of those game that cannot be truly balanced in terms of ladder and the competitive scene. The game is fundamentally flawed and the developers themselves push for a particular class to be the driving force for an expanion or a particular year. Without a dedicated banlist and being really stingy when it comes to nerfing/buffing cards it is really hard to achieve the result you want.
That being said, it is important to note that Hearthstone had gone through periods of time when the majority of classes had some sort of representation on ladder and specifically tournaments. The latter is not particularly important to the average player but it's still a positive thing to point out.
While this is a moot point from my perspective since I play Wild, where every class has at least one viable archetype if not more, Standard just won't experience the same freedom and maybe that's a good thing since it divivdes the formats even more. This will allow you to find satisfaction in both rather than one just being a carbon copy of the other.
Did i called ur thread about Warrior non constructive? i´m not saying u are wrong with ur statement about Warrior, it´s just too early to talk about nerfs since Warrior´s kit hasn´t ever been a problem for the meta and now with the addition with certain new cards we shall see if it will be a problem for the future.
Warrior is currently sitting at 2x Tier 1 decks and 1x Tier 2 deck in the "meta" if u can even call it a meta on Day 3... once people realize that most classes have a decent amount of tech cards against bomb warrior it won´t be as effective as it MIGHT be right now.
We need some "op, you're a moron" posters on the forum. Their job would be to go and post in every thread that asks for nerfs (or simply complains about some decks/cards) during the first two weeks of any expansion.
It's the only way to make them feel like crap and stop posting nonsense. If most of their threads would be filled with "op, you're a moron" posts, maybe they'll become afraid of posting and start thinking more.
Unfortunately this "community" is fueled by this game's target audience. Probably because they beg their parents to buy the bundles for them and such.
Dude odd warrior was busted.
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There's already an over abundance of those sort of posters on this forum already. Every time someone posts anything even vaguely negative, you can guarantee about half a dozen self-righteous forumers will be calling the OP all sorts of derogatory terms and pretty much not helping the situation in the slightest.
What would be better would be to have more posters who can demonstrate a little compassion and understanding when responding to people who are upset.
You can always disagree with them - you just dont need to be a jerk when you do.
It's always funny how people instantly whine about new decks when everything is still being discovered. Hell, right now I'm just happy I don't have to face Turn 1 Prince Keleseth anymore. Or a Frost Lich Jaina flipping the game on its head. Or a Bloodreaver Gul'dan bringing back a board full of Voidlords.
It's fine really, everyone has their favourite classes and types of decks if the expansion and rotation weakens their class too much then of course they are going to feel annoyed. This is literally the most suitable place for people to post their criticism, and while it may sometimes be exaggurated or overblown it will often have some level of truth to how the deck is in game.
I don't understand why people like the OP are even bothered about other people getting frustrated with certain aspects if the game. If you think the game is fine and people shouldn't complain then just play it and appreciate that you quite lucky to have such a mindset.
Or Voidlords in general. Or Fungalmancer. Or Odd Paladin. Or Even/Odd Rogue. It's possible to go on for hours, but I'm too busy today.
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I suppose the whole "How dare you claim there is anything wrong with my favourite game in case it persuades Blizzard to change it and I dont get easy wins any more..." trope has gone on for time imemorial.
It's a rather lazy response to any sort of negativity born out of fear that the game might be made harder for you if it is batter balanced.
It's all fear-driven really....
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It's the internet, people just have to be complaining/whining about something or everything. lol
It's the same story over and over, a deck becomes strong so people start crying about it, then the next best deck comes along so people move to crying about that, just a vicious circle.
Rumors are carried by haters, spread by fools, and accepted by idiots.