Hey guys! I'm a free to play player so I have budget constraints in mind, but I do have enough dust to craft some legendaries if it's necessary. For the spiteful druid deck shown here (and in general): https://hsreplay.net/decks/wNASbXbfl1I2PrajhWshJg/
Is Prince Keleseth a good craft? I didn't see him used that much except for in spiteful decks and tempo rogue before the nerfs. Is he absolutely neccesary to this deck or could I replace him? What cards would I put in this deck instead if I'm not running Prince Keleseth?
Thank you.
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### Spiteful Druid # Class: Druid # Format: Standard # Year of the Raven # # 2x (1) Glacial Shard # 2x (1) Fire Fly # 1x (2) Prince Keleseth # 2x (3) Druid of the Scythe # 1x (3) Tar Creeper # 2x (3) Greedy Sprite # 2x (3) Crypt Lord # 2x (3) Mind Control Tech # 1x (3) Mindbreaker # 2x (4) Saronite Chain Gang # 2x (4) Spellbreaker # 2x (5) Fungalmancer # 2x (5) Cobalt Scalebane # 1x (5) Leeroy Jenkins # 2x (6) Spiteful Summoner # 1x (7) Malfurion the Pestilent # 1x (8) Grand Archivist # 2x (10) Ultimate Infestation # AAECAZICBq8EysMCmdMCguICnOIC0OcCDN4F8gWXwQLrwgKbywLKywKHzgKR0ALR4QL55gLX6wKL7gIA # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone # Find the deck on https://hsreplay.net/decks/18d9jMLwKRssdgfC6syHzg/
I just had to craft one Grand Archivist to play a nearly identical deck on my f2p Asia arena practice account, I am missing 1 Druid of the Scythe (that's a great card though). The deck is not cheap though if you didn't get lucky and open Leeroy, Malfurion, Keleseth like I did on that account. Leeroy is a better craft if you don't have him yet.
The deck is good. Keleseth makes it better but you can win games without playing him (and there's no early card draw so you don't get him as often as you'd want early on).
Keleseth is also good in Rogue and Zoo Warlock for f2p players, it's a decent card still.
As for replacements, that list only has 1 Tar Creeper so I'd just add another. EDIT: On second thoughts, since you can play 2 drops I would add an Acidic Swamp Ooze instead, I often wanted weapon removal when playing this deck. EDIT2: Originally I said I used a Druid of the Swarm, I considered this but removed it when I saw it was 2 mana cost ;) That is also a good replacement for Keleseth since you can hide it behind a taunt and give it poisonous.
### Spiteful Druid # Class: Druid # Format: Standard # Year of the Raven # # 2x (1) Glacial Shard # 2x (1) Fire Fly # 1x (2) Prince Keleseth # 2x (3) Tar Creeper # 2x (3) Greedy Sprite # 1x (3) Druid of the Scythe # 2x (3) Mind Control Tech # 2x (4) Twilight Drake # 2x (4) Scaleworm # 2x (4) Spellbreaker # 2x (5) Cobalt Scalebane # 2x (6) Spiteful Summoner # 1x (7) Malfurion the Pestilent # 2x (7) Wyrmguard # 1x (8) Grand Archivist # 2x (8) Primordial Drake # 2x (10) Ultimate Infestation # AAECAZICBJnTApziAtDnAovuAg3eBfIFjQiXwQLrwgLKwwLJxwLKywKHzgL55gLX6wKM7wKJ8QIA # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone # Find the deck on https://hsreplay.net/decks/wNASbXbfl1I2PrajhWshJg/
Additionally is Grand Archivist casting a UI at random from your deck better than like a Lich King? I don't think it would be since it could target yourself, one of your minions, or cast UI again next turn and massively overdraw yourself
Ok, decks have the same core cards, and they work well.
I'd add another Druid of the Scythe in that list instead of Keleseth if you want to try it out. I mentioned Druid of the Swarm in my other post, but Stoneskin Basilisk is probably better since it has Divine Shield, unless you really need the taunt option.
EDIT: I see they cut Fungalmancers to make room for more dragons for the activators, I expect that is why it doesn't perform as well as the Leeroy version. Leeroy can also give you a chance to steal a big minion comboed with Mind Control Tech if your opponent tries to play around that (may get a 1/1 whelp though).
I'd craft Leeroy before crafting Keleseth though I think.
The prince fell out of favor temporarily but personally I think he’s a worthwhile craft that will be used in some shape or form throughout the next year that he’ll be in standard. As long as tempo/midrange decks exist, he fits in nicely. Just a win more card in minion heavy lists like Spiteful.
Don't play Grand Archivist if you have 2 UIs left in the deck and can't kill it off before it casts the second one. Hitting your own minions is the worst outcome, hitting your own face is value neutral (you get 5 armour to compensate). But getting a 5/5 on the board makes up for that most of the time. You can also play it if you are out of cards and there are 2 UIs in the deck since you'll probably draw the other when it is cast, or can play a bunch of cards that you drew the next turn. EDIT: I don't have the Lich King on my Asia account. Grand Archivist is mainly a way to guarantee drawing 5 cards on turn 8 though, which is usually better than 1 Lich King card I expect.
Hey guys! I'm a free to play player so I have budget constraints in mind, but I do have enough dust to craft some legendaries if it's necessary. For the spiteful druid deck shown here (and in general): https://hsreplay.net/decks/wNASbXbfl1I2PrajhWshJg/
Is Prince Keleseth a good craft? I didn't see him used that much except for in spiteful decks and tempo rogue before the nerfs. Is he absolutely neccesary to this deck or could I replace him? What cards would I put in this deck instead if I'm not running Prince Keleseth?
Thank you.
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Link to the deck does not work for me. I assume you mean this deck
https://hsreplay.net/decks/18d9jMLwKRssdgfC6syHzg/
### Spiteful Druid
# Class: Druid
# Format: Standard
# Year of the Raven
#
# 2x (1) Glacial Shard
# 2x (1) Fire Fly
# 1x (2) Prince Keleseth
# 2x (3) Druid of the Scythe
# 1x (3) Tar Creeper
# 2x (3) Greedy Sprite
# 2x (3) Crypt Lord
# 2x (3) Mind Control Tech
# 1x (3) Mindbreaker
# 2x (4) Saronite Chain Gang
# 2x (4) Spellbreaker
# 2x (5) Fungalmancer
# 2x (5) Cobalt Scalebane
# 1x (5) Leeroy Jenkins
# 2x (6) Spiteful Summoner
# 1x (7) Malfurion the Pestilent
# 1x (8) Grand Archivist
# 2x (10) Ultimate Infestation
#
AAECAZICBq8EysMCmdMCguICnOIC0OcCDN4F8gWXwQLrwgKbywLKywKHzgKR0ALR4QL55gLX6wKL7gIA
#
# To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone
# Find the deck on https://hsreplay.net/decks/18d9jMLwKRssdgfC6syHzg/
I just had to craft one Grand Archivist to play a nearly identical deck on my f2p Asia arena practice account, I am missing 1 Druid of the Scythe (that's a great card though). The deck is not cheap though if you didn't get lucky and open Leeroy, Malfurion, Keleseth like I did on that account. Leeroy is a better craft if you don't have him yet.
The deck is good. Keleseth makes it better but you can win games without playing him (and there's no early card draw so you don't get him as often as you'd want early on).
Keleseth is also good in Rogue and Zoo Warlock for f2p players, it's a decent card still.
As for replacements, that list only has 1 Tar Creeper so I'd just add another. EDIT: On second thoughts, since you can play 2 drops I would add an Acidic Swamp Ooze instead, I often wanted weapon removal when playing this deck. EDIT2: Originally I said I used a Druid of the Swarm, I considered this but removed it when I saw it was 2 mana cost ;) That is also a good replacement for Keleseth since you can hide it behind a taunt and give it poisonous.
I meant this deck because I like the dragon synergy and I don't have leeroy jenkins either, but thanks for your suggestions!
https://hsreplay.net/decks/wNASbXbfl1I2PrajhWshJg/
### Spiteful Druid
# Class: Druid
# Format: Standard
# Year of the Raven
#
# 2x (1) Glacial Shard
# 2x (1) Fire Fly
# 1x (2) Prince Keleseth
# 2x (3) Tar Creeper
# 2x (3) Greedy Sprite
# 1x (3) Druid of the Scythe
# 2x (3) Mind Control Tech
# 2x (4) Twilight Drake
# 2x (4) Scaleworm
# 2x (4) Spellbreaker
# 2x (5) Cobalt Scalebane
# 2x (6) Spiteful Summoner
# 1x (7) Malfurion the Pestilent
# 2x (7) Wyrmguard
# 1x (8) Grand Archivist
# 2x (8) Primordial Drake
# 2x (10) Ultimate Infestation
#
AAECAZICBJnTApziAtDnAovuAg3eBfIFjQiXwQLrwgLKwwLJxwLKywKHzgL55gLX6wKM7wKJ8QIA
#
# To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone
# Find the deck on https://hsreplay.net/decks/wNASbXbfl1I2PrajhWshJg/
Additionally is Grand Archivist casting a UI at random from your deck better than like a Lich King? I don't think it would be since it could target yourself, one of your minions, or cast UI again next turn and massively overdraw yourself
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Ok, decks have the same core cards, and they work well.
I'd add another Druid of the Scythe in that list instead of Keleseth if you want to try it out. I mentioned Druid of the Swarm in my other post, but Stoneskin Basilisk is probably better since it has Divine Shield, unless you really need the taunt option.
EDIT: I see they cut Fungalmancers to make room for more dragons for the activators, I expect that is why it doesn't perform as well as the Leeroy version. Leeroy can also give you a chance to steal a big minion comboed with Mind Control Tech if your opponent tries to play around that (may get a 1/1 whelp though).
I'd craft Leeroy before crafting Keleseth though I think.
The prince fell out of favor temporarily but personally I think he’s a worthwhile craft that will be used in some shape or form throughout the next year that he’ll be in standard. As long as tempo/midrange decks exist, he fits in nicely. Just a win more card in minion heavy lists like Spiteful.
Don't play Grand Archivist if you have 2 UIs left in the deck and can't kill it off before it casts the second one. Hitting your own minions is the worst outcome, hitting your own face is value neutral (you get 5 armour to compensate). But getting a 5/5 on the board makes up for that most of the time. You can also play it if you are out of cards and there are 2 UIs in the deck since you'll probably draw the other when it is cast, or can play a bunch of cards that you drew the next turn. EDIT: I don't have the Lich King on my Asia account. Grand Archivist is mainly a way to guarantee drawing 5 cards on turn 8 though, which is usually better than 1 Lich King card I expect.