I'm a noob and always play badly. Could someone add me as a friend and help me out? I love to talk and welcome constructive criticism so check me out at Brody#11200 :)
Unfortunately I do not have time to watch or to discuss plays at length, but as a general advice to get better: Get a deck tracker and re-evaluate your games afterwards. That already helps a lot. Watching videos from educative streams (strifecro, stancifka, etc. ) is also good, if you stop it and try think the turn through before they explain their moves.
The main thing is just keep practicing and gaining experience. When you say you played badly, go back to specific swing turns where your opponent gained the upper hand and beat you and ask yourself if you could have done anything differently to change the outcome. Unless you are playing a complicated deck, the best play should be easy to quickly identify. Try to understand what your deck archetype is, and look at things like hsreplay/vicioussyndicate meta reports to know what threats to expect from your opponent and then play accordingly - if you're control, don't blow all your removal early if you know there's a high probability they are going to play a bigger threat. If they're control and you're playing a more board presence-intensive deck, don't flood the board if they have enough mana to punish it with a brawl/blizzard/flamestrike/nether etc - but also be aware that sometimes you need to put enough pressure on the board to stop them from playing an expensive card, i.e. frostlich jaina. Also an important factor is mulliganing properly based on the matchups, which you can learn from the sites I mentioned or from other guides or streamers etc.
For the most part this isn't a very skill intensive game - the main thing is experience and knowledge of what you are most likely to be up against, and having a little luck doesn't hurt.
What kind of deck are you playing? Not gonna give advice as I'm not all that good, but might help others advise you. You're the malygos guy right? I would advise you not to start with that deck.
I'm a noob and always play badly. Could someone add me as a friend and help me out? I love to talk and welcome constructive criticism so check me out at Brody#11200 :)
I'm a huge fan of keeping it simple, so here is my advice;
1) Read VS Data Reports
2) Read Hpwn articles
3) Figure out your goals! (Do you want a big collection? Do you want to be competitive? Do you play Wild? Are you F2P?)
4) Triple check your sources! When researching information, make sure it is current/accurate!
As for getting better, install HDT on your PC or Arcane Tracker for mobile users. Watch your replays, and see where you went wrong. Also, spectate your friends matches. Pick their brains. (This will also help you learn cards)
Streamers are entertainers, not educators. What does this mean? That not every streamer is willing to educate! I installed twitch, and found a streamer I liked. She was super chill. Being new to the game, I asked, "What does Patches do?"
The chat went nuts. Everyone, including the streamer, thought I was trolling.
I never watched another Hearthstone stream. They are there to entertain and make money.
I would subscribe to Omnistone on Youtube. They have a variety of content as well as different youtubers/streamers you might enjoy. Everyone learns differently, and at different paces.
Trumps Teachings. When I was new, I joined Blizzards Official Hearthstone Forum. The answer to most of my questions was, "Trumps Teachings." I watched and re watched them. I copied and pasted his exact decks...and could not figure out why I wasn't climbing...
Nobody bothered to explain about metas or powercreep. I figured since it was reccommended so much, everyone was winning with those decks...nope.
The decks were outdated, and I was looking for something deeper than "just the basics." I started using Arcane Tracker, and pulling decks from Hearthpwn.
Add to all this, the stereotypes I had to endure.
"R20 Scrub."
"I play control so I'm a better person than you."
"Oh, you're F2P? Homeless, jobless, public wifi leach!"
My time on the forum became less frequent and I said, "Screw it; I'll learn on my own." I began watching my replays and set goals for myself. I want to reach r20 every month and I have been...what next?
I'd like to raise each hero to 60. So far, I've done Priest, Mage, and Hunter. I am now working on Warlock.
Hearthpwn, in the short time I've been here, is one of the best. I started using decklists from here ages ago, and then I made it my homepage, and then I signed up for the forum.
You learn by experience, evaluating and analyzing yourself as well as asking questions. If you need any help, feel free to ask me! My new player experience was kind of rough - I hope to be a positive influence to new players here. :)
Watch how the pros play on twitch and try to think about the decisions they make(why, when, etc)
I second this for the most part. Many pro players, or just smart players, know how to beat what many often call "cancer" decks or unwinnable match-ups but pull it off due to making plays differently than most players. For example, back during the days people played a druid deck called Jade Druid most average players said that slow decks almost never beat the Jade Druids, but many pros and more intelligent players managed to do so by playing aggressively instead of trying to squeeze lots of value out of their slow cards.
On top of watching pros I would include watching recent tournament players. One player in the latest HCT tourney, named Bunnyhoppor, managed to pull against another player who was playing an Evenlock deck, not by whittling down the warlock player's resources but by taking advantage of his opponent's low health and dominant pressure from minions threatening to gain lethal. Most average players probably would have played extra safe and gone for the standard whittling down of resources, dragging out what would have been an earlier win by going aggressive with a deck that had no burst.
Imo HS is getting worse and worse for new players, especially if the new players want to play wild. They would either have to have a lot of money or play shit ton of games. Back when i started i was really confused what was going on, i tried asking for advice from my friends but know how good friends are, they will give the advice but just to fuck around they give completely and utter bullshit as an advice.
So i started first searching from youtube good players/pros and started watching them and soon after i learned about twitch, that the pros live stream. I would guess thats the kickoff in how i learned. Then i started to play and play and play until i started to learn the best plays while watching streamers make plays(i saw someone say something about the streamers in this thread, most of them are only entertainers. IMO its all about you, if you want to learn you will. Just have to watch and focus).
But then comes the little bit more tricky part. At this point i assume you know all the cards in the game mode you play (in wild there is lot more cards to learn and remember) and start thinking about their deck and play around their cards and make plays that are going to be akward for your opponent.
And this all depends on what decks you play. I started with control and combo decks and in time i learned that i took the hard route to learn the game. I suggest that you go for some aggro decks and mid rangeish decks and dont be to serious about climbing the ranks just yet, you will be banging your head against the wall if do take it too seriously(for now).
Good luck and have fun in learning my friend.
A lot of new players start with mid range hunter, and the streamer I watched seemed more interested in answering the nonsense in twitch chat, and playing with spotify. (I find background music distracting)
I have found Omnistone to be much better for me because I can watch at my own leisure, and I can always re-wind, pause, read cards, and etc.
I had a negative experience trying to use twitch, especially on mobile. I just don't have the hours it takes to watch all the streams, nor can I meet them on their schedule. This isn't to say ALL streamers are bad; it just takes a while to find what you like
Yeah, streamers aren't as good as something that's actually a guide. On twitch you have to put up with things like "hey welcome to the bat cave team thing man appreciate the support" or "(usernameeeeeeeee) thank you so much for the sub less than three so happy to have you here less than three" every 10 seconds so it can be a bit jarring if you're trying to focus on the game. When most streamers rope it's because they are doing that stuff, not focusing on their turn.
Use an app to record your games (Hearthstone Deck Tracker does it pretty well).
In-game, such apps usually helps you remember which cards were played (both by you and your opponent), which means you can more easily figure out what are the chances you or your opponent draw such of such crucial card (example fireball when one of you is at 6 health : have both fireballs been played already ? Should you heal just in case ?).
After the game, you can watch the replay, which can help you understand your misplays (especially for losses that were pretty close), either by trying yourself to figure out if some play would have been better, or by posting it here to ask help from the community on a specific game ("what did I do wrong ?"/"Was it possible to win this match ?").
Finally, it keeps track of your actual winrate, which should (probably) boost your morale, since the human mind tends to remember losses more than wins, and thus even with a good 50% winrate, we tend to feel like awful players.
I'm a noob and always play badly. Could someone add me as a friend and help me out? I love to talk and welcome constructive criticism so check me out at Brody#11200 :)
Sure dude, but what server are you on?
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I wasn't planning on going for a run today. But those cops came out of nowhere.
I'm a noob and always play badly. Could someone add me as a friend and help me out? I love to talk and welcome constructive criticism so check me out at Brody#11200 :)
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You should add your server.
Unfortunately I do not have time to watch or to discuss plays at length, but as a general advice to get better: Get a deck tracker and re-evaluate your games afterwards. That already helps a lot. Watching videos from educative streams (strifecro, stancifka, etc. ) is also good, if you stop it and try think the turn through before they explain their moves.
The main thing is just keep practicing and gaining experience. When you say you played badly, go back to specific swing turns where your opponent gained the upper hand and beat you and ask yourself if you could have done anything differently to change the outcome. Unless you are playing a complicated deck, the best play should be easy to quickly identify. Try to understand what your deck archetype is, and look at things like hsreplay/vicioussyndicate meta reports to know what threats to expect from your opponent and then play accordingly - if you're control, don't blow all your removal early if you know there's a high probability they are going to play a bigger threat. If they're control and you're playing a more board presence-intensive deck, don't flood the board if they have enough mana to punish it with a brawl/blizzard/flamestrike/nether etc - but also be aware that sometimes you need to put enough pressure on the board to stop them from playing an expensive card, i.e. frostlich jaina. Also an important factor is mulliganing properly based on the matchups, which you can learn from the sites I mentioned or from other guides or streamers etc.
For the most part this isn't a very skill intensive game - the main thing is experience and knowledge of what you are most likely to be up against, and having a little luck doesn't hurt.
Watch how the pros play on twitch and try to think about the decisions they make(why, when, etc)
What kind of deck are you playing? Not gonna give advice as I'm not all that good, but might help others advise you. You're the malygos guy right? I would advise you not to start with that deck.
I'm a huge fan of keeping it simple, so here is my advice;
1) Read VS Data Reports
2) Read Hpwn articles
3) Figure out your goals! (Do you want a big collection? Do you want to be competitive? Do you play Wild? Are you F2P?)
4) Triple check your sources! When researching information, make sure it is current/accurate!
As for getting better, install HDT on your PC or Arcane Tracker for mobile users. Watch your replays, and see where you went wrong. Also, spectate your friends matches. Pick their brains. (This will also help you learn cards)
Streamers are entertainers, not educators. What does this mean? That not every streamer is willing to educate! I installed twitch, and found a streamer I liked. She was super chill. Being new to the game, I asked, "What does Patches do?"
The chat went nuts. Everyone, including the streamer, thought I was trolling.
I never watched another Hearthstone stream. They are there to entertain and make money.
I would subscribe to Omnistone on Youtube. They have a variety of content as well as different youtubers/streamers you might enjoy. Everyone learns differently, and at different paces.
Trumps Teachings. When I was new, I joined Blizzards Official Hearthstone Forum. The answer to most of my questions was, "Trumps Teachings." I watched and re watched them. I copied and pasted his exact decks...and could not figure out why I wasn't climbing...
Nobody bothered to explain about metas or powercreep. I figured since it was reccommended so much, everyone was winning with those decks...nope.
The decks were outdated, and I was looking for something deeper than "just the basics." I started using Arcane Tracker, and pulling decks from Hearthpwn.
Add to all this, the stereotypes I had to endure.
"R20 Scrub."
"I play control so I'm a better person than you."
"Oh, you're F2P? Homeless, jobless, public wifi leach!"
My time on the forum became less frequent and I said, "Screw it; I'll learn on my own." I began watching my replays and set goals for myself. I want to reach r20 every month and I have been...what next?
I'd like to raise each hero to 60. So far, I've done Priest, Mage, and Hunter. I am now working on Warlock.
Hearthpwn, in the short time I've been here, is one of the best. I started using decklists from here ages ago, and then I made it my homepage, and then I signed up for the forum.
You learn by experience, evaluating and analyzing yourself as well as asking questions. If you need any help, feel free to ask me! My new player experience was kind of rough - I hope to be a positive influence to new players here. :)
Good Luck & Happy Gaming
Play smart, play on curve, go face, you will be alright...
Dead but dreaming
I second this for the most part. Many pro players, or just smart players, know how to beat what many often call "cancer" decks or unwinnable match-ups but pull it off due to making plays differently than most players. For example, back during the days people played a druid deck called Jade Druid most average players said that slow decks almost never beat the Jade Druids, but many pros and more intelligent players managed to do so by playing aggressively instead of trying to squeeze lots of value out of their slow cards.
On top of watching pros I would include watching recent tournament players. One player in the latest HCT tourney, named Bunnyhoppor, managed to pull against another player who was playing an Evenlock deck, not by whittling down the warlock player's resources but by taking advantage of his opponent's low health and dominant pressure from minions threatening to gain lethal. Most average players probably would have played extra safe and gone for the standard whittling down of resources, dragging out what would have been an earlier win by going aggressive with a deck that had no burst.
A lot of new players start with mid range hunter, and the streamer I watched seemed more interested in answering the nonsense in twitch chat, and playing with spotify. (I find background music distracting)
I have found Omnistone to be much better for me because I can watch at my own leisure, and I can always re-wind, pause, read cards, and etc.
I had a negative experience trying to use twitch, especially on mobile. I just don't have the hours it takes to watch all the streams, nor can I meet them on their schedule. This isn't to say ALL streamers are bad; it just takes a while to find what you like
Good Luck & Happy Gaming
Yeah, streamers aren't as good as something that's actually a guide. On twitch you have to put up with things like "hey welcome to the bat cave team thing man appreciate the support" or "(usernameeeeeeeee) thank you so much for the sub less than three so happy to have you here less than three" every 10 seconds so it can be a bit jarring if you're trying to focus on the game. When most streamers rope it's because they are doing that stuff, not focusing on their turn.
Just pray to RNGesus
Use an app to record your games (Hearthstone Deck Tracker does it pretty well).
In-game, such apps usually helps you remember which cards were played (both by you and your opponent), which means you can more easily figure out what are the chances you or your opponent draw such of such crucial card (example fireball when one of you is at 6 health : have both fireballs been played already ? Should you heal just in case ?).
After the game, you can watch the replay, which can help you understand your misplays (especially for losses that were pretty close), either by trying yourself to figure out if some play would have been better, or by posting it here to ask help from the community on a specific game ("what did I do wrong ?"/"Was it possible to win this match ?").
Finally, it keeps track of your actual winrate, which should (probably) boost your morale, since the human mind tends to remember losses more than wins, and thus even with a good 50% winrate, we tend to feel like awful players.
Sure dude, but what server are you on?
I wasn't planning on going for a run today. But those cops came out of nowhere.
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