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I've been seeing people post decks with "90%" win rates, "80%", etc. but I don't buy it. I've almost reached legend twice and my wr both times was around 55%. Is that normal? Statistically, as long as you're above 50%, you can grind your ass to legend, given enough time right?

Quote from FrodoBagginYa >>

I've been seeing people post decks with "90%" win rates, "80%", etc. but I don't buy it. I've almost reached legend twice and my wr both times was around 55%. Is that normal? Statistically, as long as you're above 50%, you can grind your ass to legend, given enough time right?

Just like everyone have been saying, anything 51% or more will get you to legend. More than that and you have a preety good deck.

Just got to keep grinding until you reach the rank you desire.

People who get 80-90% winrate without lying or sabotaging the result (with way to small sample size or intentionally only playing in low ranks) usually make a perfect meta call. After a new expansion hits this happens quite often. (I also went with 80% winrate from rank 20 to 5 with zoolock, the day Dark Councilman was released for example) Good deckbuilders can even adapt between 2 expansions fast enough to the meta and build "perfect" counter decks. The thing is that after about 2 months more or less all counters have been discovered and the meta falls in a stalemate. -> it becomes harder and harder to build the perfect counter deck.

Anyway, those super high win rate decks are possible but they are more or less impossible to netdeck because when more people use this deck it will imiedeately be countered too.

As allready mentioned in other comments everything above 50% is good enough for legend if you have enough time. Tier 1 net-decks are usually slightly below 55% win rate, as far as I know.

If you aren't a great deckbuilder you can still dramatically increase your winrate with the right tech-choices. Just look which decks your opponents play most of the time and try to swap 1-2 cards to make those match ups a bit better. Looking at tempostorm for example also helps a lot because these are usually the decks which at least 50% of the people on ladder are playing.

Quote from FranzLimit >>

People who get 80-90% winrate without lying or sabotaging the result (with way to small sample size or intentionally only playing in low ranks) usually make a perfect meta call. After a new expansion hits this happens quite often. (I also went with 80% winrate from rank 20 to 5 with zoolock, the day Dark Councilman was released for example) Good deckbuilders can even adapt between 2 expansions fast enough to the meta and build "perfect" counter decks. The thing is that after about 2 months more or less all counters have been discovered and the meta falls in a stalemate. -> it becomes harder and harder to build the perfect counter deck.

Anyway, those super high win rate decks are possible but they are more or less impossible to netdeck because when more people use this deck it will imiedeately be countered too.

As allready mentioned in other comments everything above 50% is good enough for legend if you have enough time. Tier 1 net-decks are usually slightly below 55% win rate, as far as I know.

If you aren't a great deckbuilder you can still dramatically increase your winrate with the right tech-choices. Just look which decks your opponents play most of the time and try to swap 1-2 cards to make those match ups a bit better. Looking at tempostorm for example also helps a lot because these are usually the decks which at least 50% of the people on ladder are playing.

Most pro's winrate is 60% or below.  So they to lose on average 4 to 5 games out of 10.

As to how other reasons why people can claim a high win rate even though what everyone said above is true:

My Dragon Preist deck has a 73% win rate. It's AWESOME!!

...I'm currently sitting at around rank 18.  The deck has only played 11 games, mostly during the rushy rushy era.

Statistics don't lie.  People just love to hide the context behind them.