Since the Warsong Commander nerf is incoming, here's an idea I had for a future card which might be able to fill the gap Warsong is about to leave without being OP as hell/too limiting when it comes to future card design.
What do you think? I didn't bother coming up with a unique name/card art since it's just the basic concept, though I might remake this card with a genuine aesthetic in the future.
This is even more OP than it was before...Not only will more minions be eligible for charge, but grim patron will be insta triggered with no effort. They don't think that it is a fun mechanic and i doubt they will ever re-introduce the cards effect.
If it had given minions charge, but limited their attack, by say, if they went over 3 attack, they then lost charge, we wouldn't have had the OTK issue.
Grim Patron was the stepbrother to the REAL OTK Combo.
I could care less if they fill their board with Patron, Grim Patron meet Lightbomb.
Also, your card theory is still OP, still causes the same OTK problem. Nice idea, still an issue though.
So every time I play Grim Patron, I get another one for free? Nice.
It damages itself, not the Patron.
But this still has the same problem of giving Charge to cards that have no business having Charge.
Oh! Now I see the balance. Ok, that will work, but the wording is strange and Blizzard doesn't like non-intuitive wordings.
oh i didnt understand until i read this post lol... The wording did throw me off. The way it sounded was play a minion <4 hp give it charge, then deal 1 damage to this minion, in which "this" could have implied the previously mentioned minion that was played and received charge. I think it would been better to have said it as When you play a minion with 4 or less health lose 1 hp and it gets charge" or something. Anyway, it seems a bit to complicated for a basic class card according to what the devs were trying to accomplish.
Because Warsong Commander made it difficult to make cards with three or less attack that wouldn't be overpowered with it. Like Ben Brode said, Dreadsteed was going to be a neutral minion, but Warsong Commander would have made it OP.
It's not mainly because of Patron Warrior... They are nerfing Warsong Commander so they don't run into problems when designing Warrior and Neutral cards in the future.. Dreadsteed was supposed to be a Neutral minion released in Naxxramas, but WC prevented that. They should probably have thought of that when they released Warsong Commander in vanilla, but that's acceptable human error.
You are wasting your time by coming up with other nerfs than with WC, because they didn't nerf it mainly because of Patron..
Because Warsong Commander made it difficult to make cards with three or less attack that wouldn't be overpowered with it. Like Ben Brode said, Dreadsteed was going to be a neutral minion, but Warsong Commander would have made it OP.
wait, didn't warsong give charge to played minions? it doesn't make any sense since the fix went pre brm far away from naxx
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Since the Warsong Commander nerf is incoming, here's an idea I had for a future card which might be able to fill the gap Warsong is about to leave without being OP as hell/too limiting when it comes to future card design.
What do you think? I didn't bother coming up with a unique name/card art since it's just the basic concept, though I might remake this card with a genuine aesthetic in the future.
How is it "not OP"? HOW?
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So every time I play Grim Patron, I get another one for free? Nice.
Never say "never say never"
It damages itself, not the Patron.
But this still has the same problem of giving Charge to cards that have no business having Charge.
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This is even more OP than it was before...Not only will more minions be eligible for charge, but grim patron will be insta triggered with no effort. They don't think that it is a fun mechanic and i doubt they will ever re-introduce the cards effect.
Oh! Now I see the balance. Ok, that will work, but the wording is strange and Blizzard doesn't like non-intuitive wordings.
Never say "never say never"
Deal 1 damage to "THIS" minion.
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So summoned patrons would not have charge? The card does say "play a minion."
Blizzard would still nerf this because it doesn't stop the Frothing Berserker combo.
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Warsong Commander was the real issue. Frothing Berserker is answerable, but not with Charge.
If it had given minions charge, but limited their attack, by say, if they went over 3 attack, they then lost charge, we wouldn't have had the OTK issue.
Grim Patron was the stepbrother to the REAL OTK Combo.
I could care less if they fill their board with Patron, Grim Patron meet Lightbomb.
Also, your card theory is still OP, still causes the same OTK problem. Nice idea, still an issue though.
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oh i didnt understand until i read this post lol... The wording did throw me off. The way it sounded was play a minion <4 hp give it charge, then deal 1 damage to this minion, in which "this" could have implied the previously mentioned minion that was played and received charge. I think it would been better to have said it as When you play a minion with 4 or less health lose 1 hp and it gets charge" or something. Anyway, it seems a bit to complicated for a basic class card according to what the devs were trying to accomplish.
If card text has nothing to do with the "soul" of a card, I would change the text completely and more inline with commanding shout.
I REALLY don't know why they don't just keep it all the same but minions lose charge when their attack goes above 3.
Because Warsong Commander made it difficult to make cards with three or less attack that wouldn't be overpowered with it. Like Ben Brode said, Dreadsteed was going to be a neutral minion, but Warsong Commander would have made it OP.
The fix for Warsong Commander should have been make Frothing Berserker a 4/3 minion with the same special power and up its mana cost by 1.
It's not mainly because of Patron Warrior... They are nerfing Warsong Commander so they don't run into problems when designing Warrior and Neutral cards in the future.. Dreadsteed was supposed to be a Neutral minion released in Naxxramas, but WC prevented that. They should probably have thought of that when they released Warsong Commander in vanilla, but that's acceptable human error.
You are wasting your time by coming up with other nerfs than with WC, because they didn't nerf it mainly because of Patron..
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wait, didn't warsong give charge to played minions? it doesn't make any sense since the fix went pre brm far away from naxx