Pretty sure people will start to see these interactions and lose their minds. Even with lack of aoe activators for patron, the more or less point is just get the dmg down. finish them off. a thaurissan'd dragon hawk has the potential to do a combo of
hawk for (6) charge for (2) inner rage inner rage + taskmaster + taskmaster for a 30 damage otk. chances are you will only be using it for 14-22 dmg based on if you have inner rages in your hand, but its a hell of alot better than just grommash inner rage face.(plus its consistently way better than turn 10 pyroblast)
edit, i traded bloods for revenge to have more aoe activators and anti aggro tools.
lol thats a very asinine comment. Druid which had a 14 dmg 2 card combo lead the meta for 2 years. People are always going to look to play decks like this because they are proven to be way to strong. New players don't expect the combo so you can get through ranks 20-10 really quickly, and then because its patron, its obnoxious vs a majority of the meta.
I agree with the poster above me, worgen deals 1 less damage for 2 less mana, and you can already get the full combo off for 30 damage fairly consistently (assuming you survive).
Raging Worgen works so much better than Grotesque Dragonhawk. The lower mana cost allows the combo to be pulled off much more consistently.
raging needs 3 cards always to do his combo so no you're wrong.... he needs at least inner rage himself and charge and even at that point hes doing 16 dmg. where if you used the inner rage on this card. youd be doing 18. yes you can make the arguement that worgen is playable on turn 6 with this combo. but if you play him on turn 6, then you lose the turn you could be playing patrons. so tbh, id rather have a two card combo that can scale, then a required 3 card combo that can cost as much as 8(task master activator) just to get rolling.
Plus if you want to worgen otk he doesn't have enough hp to eat 2 inner rages + 2 task masters without rampage for +3/+3 so in general, no worgen is not better because he cant otk without rampage unlike this card meaning you have slots open for 2 more cards in the deck to basically otk the same turn
Raging Worgen works so much better than Grotesque Dragonhawk. The lower mana cost allows the combo to be pulled off much more consistently.
Raging Worgen and Charge for 5 damage? Yes, it's more consistent. But if you want to proc the windfury, it's a 3-card Combo. And if you go for the really high damage, you Need a lolt of cards. And that's not so consistent any more.
And that's the point of the Dragonhawk Combo. It's 2 times 2 Cards of which you need only one in hand, respectively, and which can easily be combined with any midrange deck. If it actually will work, we need to see, since it lacks some of the synergy the Druid Combo had (no scaling with the board) and it is 1 mana more expensive.
I agree with the poster above me, worgen deals 1 less damage for 2 less mana, and you can already get the full combo off for 30 damage fairly consistently (assuming you survive).
I doubt draginhawk will see much play
as stated in my explination, worgen is not more consistent because he requires 3 cards to do 2 more dmg on turn 6-8 depending on if you use your inner rage or your task masters. 2 cards =/= 3 cards when it comes to consistency. also in order to otk with worgen it requires rampage which is unneeded with dragon hawk because it has enough hp to eat 2 task masters+2inner rages
strange that Windfury Harpy was never used for this purpose. 10 mana 12 damage + 4 per bonus activator. This dragonhawk is 1 mana more expensive for just +2 damage on top of that.. Might be enough to push it over the edge.
the reason why harpy wasn't used because if people wanted to play a combo deck theyd just play druid. also harpy couldnt do 30 dmg with 2 inner rages and 2 task masters it fell short
harpy with all the cards did 28 this card can do 30 so you can otk a priest who is shelling up all game
also if you wanted to do 12 dmg, youd just inner rage grommash so whats the point. 2 more dmg on 2 different cards is huge when you think about it. you can turn 9 gromash for 12. and then turn 10 this for 14 and then do it again for another 14
The difference between Druid combo and this is that the Druid cards are decent on their own, not 3 mana do almost nothing spell and a 7 mana 5/5. Yeah, it's a 14 damage combo, but it's not comparible to FoN + SR in the slightest. You can't just compare every form of burst to Druid combo.
So there's actual human beings who believe a 7 mana 5/5 can be a good card in patron when windfury harpy has existed since beta of hearthstone and hasn't seen play on any deck above rank 18?
I'd really like to know how you expect to beat control warriors and freeze mages with a combo deck. Even if this was a good combo you get rolled by what should be a very popular control deck (freeze mage) and more than likely any tempo decks that kill you before drawing what you need. Also taunts are everywhere in most classes now so you'd need a lot more removal and you can't run that without losing draw.
If you're serious about this I'd retool it to look like a control deck by removing everything except the combo, you don't need patrons when you aren't trying to win with them. Same goes for frothings. If you play them they'll just get removed easily because the stats on these cards suck. You are never going to be the aggro deck. replace the things that are not part of the combo with removal and more draw. This is how combo decks like OTK Worgen run now.
Patron and berserker are found in tempo decks like reynad's warrior. You run korkrons and leeroy and other charge minions so the opponent needs to consistently have answers. With your list all I'd have to do is kill off the few threats you play while playing my own and mine are bigger. Play a control deck with the combo not a combo in a tempo deck. See what i mean?
The difference between Druid combo and this is that the Druid cards are decent on their own, not 3 mana do almost nothing spell and a 7 mana 5/5. Yeah, it's a 14 damage combo, but it's not comparible to FoN + SR in the slightest. You can't just compare every form of burst to Druid combo.
i mean its 4 dmg stronger than a pyro blast that can scale depending on the cards in your hand. all you have to do is play the game out, get them into the 14-18 range where they think they are safe and then just dragonhawk+charge+inner rage. the thing is, they will be fighting patrons most of the game, so the unexpectedness will be whats strong about this at first. after that, people will find more ways to deal dmg consistently or make the combo better
I'd really like to know how you expect to beat control warriors and freeze mages with a combo deck. Even if this was a good combo you get rolled by what should be a very popular control deck (freeze mage) and more than likely any tempo decks that kill you before drawing what you need. Also taunts are everywhere in most classes now so you'd need a lot more removal and you can't run that without losing draw.
If you're serious about this I'd retool it to look like a control deck by removing everything except the combo, you don't need patrons when you aren't trying to win with them. Same goes for frothings. If you play them they'll just get removed easily because the stats on these cards suck. You are never going to be the aggro deck. replace the things that are not part of the combo with removal and more draw. This is how combo decks like OTK Worgen run now.
Patron and berserker are found in tempo decks like reynad's warrior. You run korkrons and leeroy and other charge minions so the opponent needs to consistently have answers. With your list all I'd have to do is kill off the few threats you play while playing my own and mine are bigger. Play a control deck with the combo not a combo in a tempo deck. See what i mean?
lack of aoe removal says that patron is going to be really big this meta. i seriously doubt this will be the case. and as a warrior, armoring up is still a thing vs freeze mage. however yes it probably can fall short vs cw and Taunts, but we'll have to see. someone will always find a way to break decks. but i'm basically stating that i feel dragonhawk charge will just be a new meta tool
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Pretty sure people will start to see these interactions and lose their minds. Even with lack of aoe activators for patron, the more or less point is just get the dmg down. finish them off. a thaurissan'd dragon hawk has the potential to do a combo of
hawk for (6) charge for (2) inner rage inner rage + taskmaster + taskmaster for a 30 damage otk. chances are you will only be using it for 14-22 dmg based on if you have inner rages in your hand, but its a hell of alot better than just grommash inner rage face.(plus its consistently way better than turn 10 pyroblast)
edit, i traded bloods for revenge to have more aoe activators and anti aggro tools.
Looking forward to this if this works, gonna try it for sure.
i might swap blood for the 3 body with aoe. however i'm not really sure if i need to.
im sure someone will find the optimal balance of cards. but charge+dragon hawk will be in every deck.
People continue to be desperate for gimmick OTK decks.
lol thats a very asinine comment. Druid which had a 14 dmg 2 card combo lead the meta for 2 years. People are always going to look to play decks like this because they are proven to be way to strong. New players don't expect the combo so you can get through ranks 20-10 really quickly, and then because its patron, its obnoxious vs a majority of the meta.
Raging Worgen works so much better than Grotesque Dragonhawk. The lower mana cost allows the combo to be pulled off much more consistently.
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WOW new savage roar combo. 14 damage for 10 mana not including the thaurissan.
I agree with the poster above me, worgen deals 1 less damage for 2 less mana, and you can already get the full combo off for 30 damage fairly consistently (assuming you survive).
I doubt draginhawk will see much play
The difference between Druid combo and this is that the Druid cards are decent on their own, not 3 mana do almost nothing spell and a 7 mana 5/5. Yeah, it's a 14 damage combo, but it's not comparible to FoN + SR in the slightest. You can't just compare every form of burst to Druid combo.
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I've played a lot of Warsong Patron, Grom Patron, Worgen Patron, etc. and I have to say this is just a worse version of Worgen Warrior.
So there's actual human beings who believe a 7 mana 5/5 can be a good card in patron when windfury harpy has existed since beta of hearthstone and hasn't seen play on any deck above rank 18?
I'd really like to know how you expect to beat control warriors and freeze mages with a combo deck. Even if this was a good combo you get rolled by what should be a very popular control deck (freeze mage) and more than likely any tempo decks that kill you before drawing what you need. Also taunts are everywhere in most classes now so you'd need a lot more removal and you can't run that without losing draw.
If you're serious about this I'd retool it to look like a control deck by removing everything except the combo, you don't need patrons when you aren't trying to win with them. Same goes for frothings. If you play them they'll just get removed easily because the stats on these cards suck. You are never going to be the aggro deck. replace the things that are not part of the combo with removal and more draw. This is how combo decks like OTK Worgen run now.
Patron and berserker are found in tempo decks like reynad's warrior. You run korkrons and leeroy and other charge minions so the opponent needs to consistently have answers. With your list all I'd have to do is kill off the few threats you play while playing my own and mine are bigger. Play a control deck with the combo not a combo in a tempo deck. See what i mean?
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Pretty sure they'll end up nerfing Charge. I'm honestly surprised they didn't do something to it in this round of adjustments.
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