Well, as we see Blizzard is giving us some new toys for Discard Warlock. I don't really know yet if they are powerful tools, but I would say at the very least they are interesting.
My first try is a Control direction, which is trying to make advantage of the new aspect of discard cards. The main idea behind the deck is the strong early-game and value behind the mentioned mechanic.
If the opponent plays an aggro deck, I don't really care if my discard cards discards something useful, because Soulwarden can bring it back. If the opponent plays a slower deck, I can hit Clutchmother Zavas directly or other cheaper, but less useful stuff.
Maybe I should try to make space for some healing cards... and try to add Rin, the First Disciple as a tech card against greedy decks.
It's basically control warlock with discard mechanic. Problem with such deck is it can't put pressure. It will lose to everything except aggressive decks. Unfortunately I don't even think you can build a viable deck with new discard cards, except for maybe a discard zoo deck, but it is just not worth it at this point over regular Heal Zoo.
Currently the deck has 4 discard cards, which are controllable. Lakkari Sacrifice needs more discards and I don't really see why should a control-ish deck force itself to (possibly) discard key high cost cards to complete a not very strong quest.
Moreover in my opinion all cards have their spot in the deck and I'm already in trouble with Rin, the First Disciple which I would like to take in.
I don't really see the point of the quest, the deck can discard only 7 cards. I love the idea of Glinda Crowskin, but does 5 cards really worth for it? I mean... one aoe and the board will disappear. And the deck has 5 cards which are supporting this combo.
My another problem is The Soularium. It can discard too many important cards and the deck has just 1 copy of Soulwarden. Because of this your combo is also in danger.
By the way I made the mentioned changes, this is how my deck looks now:
yeah i know but i use [card]The Soularium[/card] diffrent more like Tracking but yeah the idea with Glinda Crowskin was just a wishful perfect game situation but!:
I choose Crystallizer because of the effect it push´s your synergy with Lesser Amethyst Spellstone but first its good because you can discard it. And the Second Soulwarden too get things back.
I choose Crystallizer because of the effect it push´s your synergy with Lesser Amethyst Spellstone but first its good because you can discard it. And the Second Soulwarden too get things back.
To be honest I still don't really see a reason for the quest, it doesn't have enough support. And if you cut the quest out, The Soularium will not be needed at all if you ask me.
A control deck is about controlling, discard is random. U will never make this work in a control deck, its needs to be aggro or midrange. Discard is bad i dont think any deck will be good if u build it totaly around discard.
The good discard cards are: Doom guard, soulfire, shriek and maybe diretroll and priestess. Rest are really bad cards
Just partly agree. Discard is really an unpredictable mechanic, but the new condition (Discard your lowest cost card) is manageable. In a slower matchup it's not hard to hit Clutchmother Zavas or High Priestess Jeklik.
If you are playing against aggro, it's not a big deal to discard something if you survive.
Sure, maybe I'm wrong, we'll see at the release. It's also possible that the deck will work somehow but there will be better Warlock decks. I'm not trying to invent the new Tier 1 monster, just experimenting, and maybe the result will be something playable.
What i dont understand is why do you want ti Discard without Quest? :D sounds like a lose lose situation for me. But Change my mind. @kiszelkap :D
The quest is just bad. A big tempo loss and then you have to play the portal which is not that rewarding.
The discard mechanic was alive before the quest, and with the new direction it can lead to a manageable way. I don't know if it will be good, but I see potential behind discarding Zavas or Jeklik multiple times and bringing extra copies to your hand with Soulwarden. And the new discard cards are really good in vacuum. It's more like an extra addition for value, early-game and combo then a build-around.
Hey guys,
Well, as we see Blizzard is giving us some new toys for Discard Warlock. I don't really know yet if they are powerful tools, but I would say at the very least they are interesting.
My first try is a Control direction, which is trying to make advantage of the new aspect of discard cards. The main idea behind the deck is the strong early-game and value behind the mentioned mechanic.
If the opponent plays an aggro deck, I don't really care if my discard cards discards something useful, because Soulwarden can bring it back. If the opponent plays a slower deck, I can hit Clutchmother Zavas directly or other cheaper, but less useful stuff.
Maybe I should try to make space for some healing cards... and try to add Rin, the First Disciple as a tech card against greedy decks.
Feel free to write a comment and make suggestions!
Hey greetings from germany i had a idea with the 0 mana cards because now we can target easy the "discard the card with the lowest cost.
Maybe we can use something with that? What do you think?
It's basically control warlock with discard mechanic. Problem with such deck is it can't put pressure. It will lose to everything except aggressive decks. Unfortunately I don't even think you can build a viable deck with new discard cards, except for maybe a discard zoo deck, but it is just not worth it at this point over regular Heal Zoo.
Valid point, that's why I'm thinking about forcing Rin into the deck somehow.
So no quest?
Currently the deck has 4 discard cards, which are controllable. Lakkari Sacrifice needs more discards and I don't really see why should a control-ish deck force itself to (possibly) discard key high cost cards to complete a not very strong quest.
Moreover in my opinion all cards have their spot in the deck and I'm already in trouble with Rin, the First Disciple which I would like to take in.
I'm thinking about these changes:
- Skull of the Man'ari
- Rotten Applebaum
+ Dark Pact
+ Rin, the First Disciple
With the changes above I only have to figure out which card should be taken out for a copy of Possessed Lackey. But maybe it's not that necessary.
What about this one? Also a combo with the comeback of the 0 mana cards and echo and to push them with Grim Rally
But maybe this is just to much of wishful thinking of cource.
But i am here too learn :)
I don't really see the point of the quest, the deck can discard only 7 cards. I love the idea of Glinda Crowskin, but does 5 cards really worth for it? I mean... one aoe and the board will disappear. And the deck has 5 cards which are supporting this combo.
My another problem is The Soularium. It can discard too many important cards and the deck has just 1 copy of Soulwarden. Because of this your combo is also in danger.
By the way I made the mentioned changes, this is how my deck looks now:
Possessed Lackey is still my problem, but I believe its spot will be clear after release.
yeah i know but i use [card]The Soularium[/card] diffrent more like Tracking but yeah the idea with Glinda Crowskin was just a wishful perfect game situation but!:
- Glinda Crowskin
-2 x Snowflipper Penguin
and what about
+2x Crystallizer
+ Soulwarden
I choose Crystallizer because of the effect it push´s your synergy with Lesser Amethyst Spellstone but first its good because you can discard it. And the Second Soulwarden too get things back.
Don't really see a reason for Crystallizer, there are much better options in a deck which has control tools. I mean Stonehill Defender and High Priestess Jeklik are all good options instead.
To be honest I still don't really see a reason for the quest, it doesn't have enough support. And if you cut the quest out, The Soularium will not be needed at all if you ask me.
Just partly agree. Discard is really an unpredictable mechanic, but the new condition (Discard your lowest cost card) is manageable. In a slower matchup it's not hard to hit Clutchmother Zavas or High Priestess Jeklik.
If you are playing against aggro, it's not a big deal to discard something if you survive.
Sure, maybe I'm wrong, we'll see at the release. It's also possible that the deck will work somehow but there will be better Warlock decks. I'm not trying to invent the new Tier 1 monster, just experimenting, and maybe the result will be something playable.
What i dont understand is why do you want ti Discard without Quest? :D sounds like a lose lose situation for me. But Change my mind. @kiszelkap :D
The quest is just bad. A big tempo loss and then you have to play the portal which is not that rewarding.
The discard mechanic was alive before the quest, and with the new direction it can lead to a manageable way. I don't know if it will be good, but I see potential behind discarding Zavas or Jeklik multiple times and bringing extra copies to your hand with Soulwarden. And the new discard cards are really good in vacuum. It's more like an extra addition for value, early-game and combo then a build-around.
We'll see at release, now it's just guessing. :)
The quest + Bloodteaver either means you discard the DK or the DK summons a couple 3/2 imps. They don’t belong in a deck together.
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My take on the discardlock. My version is more on tempo. I think the card cruel dinomancer is a big boost to the deck.