So, want to play some warlock and i cant decide between even and zoo. What are your opinions and what are pros and cons of both decks? im currently leaning towards crafting even, but i fear it might not be good later
All I can suggest is to check hsreplay for the matchup statistics - it depends what decks you are targeting. Zoo Warlock is overall the stronger deck, because Evenlock is weak to things like tempo mage/malygos druid which zoolock is fairly strong against, but it is strong against zoolock. So if all you're seeing is zoolocks, it's not the worst decision to switch to evenlock.
As for which to craft, I can't really answer that without knowing what you have and what you're missing.
Personally I'd go for even. Genn Greyman is a great card to have and enables some serious deckbuilding across multiple classes. Deckbuilding is also a lot more versatile.
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Zoolock is shaping the meta right now. It's win rates are a little absurd right now. Most classes only have one deck that can beat it, but since it's so strong and popular, a lot of people are playing those counter decks. I wouldn't be surprised if the deck gets a nerf to be honest but it's not really an expensive deck so it's a safe/cheap craft. Evenlock is favored against Zoo but I wouldn't say it counters it. HSreplay has it at a 55% win rate. It usually depends on who has the better opening hand. If you get your early taunts to charge up spellstones, defile, get a drake/giant to put taunt on, then you're in a good spot. If you don't and they draw early pressure, you will be punished heavily for tapping / charging up spellstones.
Evenlock is really strong, though. It's one of the best midrange deck right now. The hero power makes it's pressure very consistent against control/combo decks and it has good control tools when against aggro. I don't see it's strength as a deck going down anytime soon and it has it's share of good matchups. It's a bit more expensive but most of the epics and legendaries can be used in many decks (doomsayer, LK, Gul'dan)
Personally I like Evenlock more. I find it more fun to play. Zoo lock is super boring to me.
depends if you want to cheese out games in a few rounds, or innovate.
there is more rom to innovate in an even lock with stuff like glinda as the deck is really fast to draw what it needs. you can also run the mecha'thun package.
Zoo is pretty restricted right now, there are two versions that sort of intertwine. you can mix and match to an extent.
If you choose heal package, go with keleseth, if you want demons then don't take keleseth as it's too slow for what is already a slow mover. go with the other 2 drops like demonfire potion, vulgar and the new cards.
basically the demon zoo is better IMO. the heal package can be killed with mossy horro and it's game over or some other removal. I happen to like the handbuff demon deck way better. It has proper warlock flavour
TBH if you are just chasing legend then go with zoo as it's quick. you either win or loose very fast and get can get on to the next game.
Zoolock. Most of the times your matches ends very fast, only uses two legendaries and don't need epics to work.
yeah and you don't need soularium or leeroy to actually be good with it.
if you go the demon route just run doomguards... you can also include the DK as well in that case. yeah you can't use it till later, but in those games where it drags out beyond your usual reach, DK can steal wins for you. I wouldn't craft it just for zoo though... the good thing is the DK can fit in any warlock deck, even with lots of demons the hero power alone wins games.
Thats not true. I really dont wanna play zoo cause im kinda bored of aggro, but i dont wanna craft even andwaste my dust if its not gonna work later. I just wanna spend my dust on something thats gonna last
Thats not true. I really dont wanna play zoo cause im kinda bored of aggro, but i dont wanna craft even andwaste my dust if its not gonna work later. I just wanna spend my dust on something thats gonna last
play deathrattle rogue. it's not too expensive to run, and if you already have most of the cards you're set.
I have one in my sig. you don't need mossy horror neither (in fact I've been running a single shadowstep instead as you can do a leeroy 30+ damage OTK with it)
Doesn't matter, its Hearthstone so it's 90% rng anyway.
Cool, I'll go play my beast warrior to legend then. Since its 90% rng, the deck shouldn't matter and I'll make it.
Seriously, at least try to contribute to the discussion instead of making some edgy, salty comment.
Anyhow, I'd go with zoolock, as it beats the slower decks that are increasingly coming into the meta, like togwaggle druid, while evenlock had a hard time dealing with the clears and combos of those decks. Evenlock does pretty well against zoo and aggro decks, but can have trouble against combo and control decks if it can't put out enough pressure early enough.
I personally play either though. I love warrior now. Big warrior, control warrior, whatever, it has out armor and outfatigue potential, not to mention mecha'thun decks as well.
They are both very good and super easy to play decks.
-Zoo: Cheap,fast, damp the hand and win deck
-Evenlock(aka handlock for dummies): Mulligan hard for giants,play aoes vs aggro and demonic project vs combo. Overall more expensive than zoo, slightly harder but stronger deck.
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So, want to play some warlock and i cant decide between even and zoo. What are your opinions and what are pros and cons of both decks? im currently leaning towards crafting even, but i fear it might not be good later
All I can suggest is to check hsreplay for the matchup statistics - it depends what decks you are targeting. Zoo Warlock is overall the stronger deck, because Evenlock is weak to things like tempo mage/malygos druid which zoolock is fairly strong against, but it is strong against zoolock. So if all you're seeing is zoolocks, it's not the worst decision to switch to evenlock.
As for which to craft, I can't really answer that without knowing what you have and what you're missing.
Well one of the reasons i was leaning towards even is beacuse i can counter zoo, but also i can tech in project for otk decks
Personally I'd go for even. Genn Greyman is a great card to have and enables some serious deckbuilding across multiple classes. Deckbuilding is also a lot more versatile.
Zoolock is shaping the meta right now. It's win rates are a little absurd right now. Most classes only have one deck that can beat it, but since it's so strong and popular, a lot of people are playing those counter decks. I wouldn't be surprised if the deck gets a nerf to be honest but it's not really an expensive deck so it's a safe/cheap craft. Evenlock is favored against Zoo but I wouldn't say it counters it. HSreplay has it at a 55% win rate. It usually depends on who has the better opening hand. If you get your early taunts to charge up spellstones, defile, get a drake/giant to put taunt on, then you're in a good spot. If you don't and they draw early pressure, you will be punished heavily for tapping / charging up spellstones.
Evenlock is really strong, though. It's one of the best midrange deck right now. The hero power makes it's pressure very consistent against control/combo decks and it has good control tools when against aggro. I don't see it's strength as a deck going down anytime soon and it has it's share of good matchups. It's a bit more expensive but most of the epics and legendaries can be used in many decks (doomsayer, LK, Gul'dan)
Personally I like Evenlock more. I find it more fun to play. Zoo lock is super boring to me.
Both are viable and good decks. Zoolock is slightly stronger but Even Warlock is way more fun to play.
depends if you want to cheese out games in a few rounds, or innovate.
there is more rom to innovate in an even lock with stuff like glinda as the deck is really fast to draw what it needs. you can also run the mecha'thun package.
Zoo is pretty restricted right now, there are two versions that sort of intertwine. you can mix and match to an extent.
If you choose heal package, go with keleseth, if you want demons then don't take keleseth as it's too slow for what is already a slow mover. go with the other 2 drops like demonfire potion, vulgar and the new cards.
basically the demon zoo is better IMO. the heal package can be killed with mossy horro and it's game over or some other removal. I happen to like the handbuff demon deck way better. It has proper warlock flavour
TBH if you are just chasing legend then go with zoo as it's quick. you either win or loose very fast and get can get on to the next game.
Zoolock. Most of the times your matches ends very fast, only uses two legendaries and don't need epics to work.
yeah and you don't need soularium or leeroy to actually be good with it.
if you go the demon route just run doomguards... you can also include the DK as well in that case. yeah you can't use it till later, but in those games where it drags out beyond your usual reach, DK can steal wins for you. I wouldn't craft it just for zoo though... the good thing is the DK can fit in any warlock deck, even with lots of demons the hero power alone wins games.
Neither, meta is already turning into warlock and Druidstone.
Dont want more of them. Kappa.
Zoo if you want to turn your brain off and play on cruise control, saves you a good bit of dust too, and is overall a stronger deck.
Thats not true. I really dont wanna play zoo cause im kinda bored of aggro, but i dont wanna craft even andwaste my dust if its not gonna work later. I just wanna spend my dust on something thats gonna last
play deathrattle rogue. it's not too expensive to run, and if you already have most of the cards you're set.
I have one in my sig. you don't need mossy horror neither (in fact I've been running a single shadowstep instead as you can do a leeroy 30+ damage OTK with it)
Doesn't matter, its Hearthstone so it's 90% rng anyway.
Cool, I'll go play my beast warrior to legend then. Since its 90% rng, the deck shouldn't matter and I'll make it.
Seriously, at least try to contribute to the discussion instead of making some edgy, salty comment.
Anyhow, I'd go with zoolock, as it beats the slower decks that are increasingly coming into the meta, like togwaggle druid, while evenlock had a hard time dealing with the clears and combos of those decks. Evenlock does pretty well against zoo and aggro decks, but can have trouble against combo and control decks if it can't put out enough pressure early enough.
I personally play either though. I love warrior now. Big warrior, control warrior, whatever, it has out armor and outfatigue potential, not to mention mecha'thun decks as well.
They are both very good and super easy to play decks.
-Zoo: Cheap,fast, damp the hand and win deck
-Evenlock(aka handlock for dummies): Mulligan hard for giants,play aoes vs aggro and demonic project vs combo. Overall more expensive than zoo, slightly harder but stronger deck.