Current winrate with this deck is 89% (17-2) (Before anybody asks, I was at rank 15 / 14 so long because in between games with this deck I was also trying to make Budget Tempo Rogue and Budget Tempo Warrior work -- neither did, I lost so many dang games with those decks :))
What does your list look like? This deck is quite bad against Razakus, and sometimes you just accept the bad matchup. Razakus is like only 8% of the metagame, so why sweat it?
The Zealot is just better than Thalnos purely because of Defile, and you have enough draw from your hero power. Medivh beats Elise because quite often your hand is full when you finally draw the Un'Goro Pack in the matchups you need the additional value -- Medivh is much more impactful in those matchups. The Bolt beats the Drain because it just kills more of your opponent's minions (especially when combined with a Zealot), the Drain _always_ needed to be combined with another card to actually kill anything important. Right now, Hellfire beats Valanar because I wanted one more early clear, but honestly I can go either way on this and might switch it back... in my testing Valanar was pretty good in this deck, often healing you for 8-10 (even if it's insta killed by minions, it lifesteals and "heals" you via taunt) and that is nothing to sneeze at. Finally, the Crawler is a good inclusion in this deck over Earthen Ring Farseer, in that it "heals" you by killing an opposing pirate, and then the 3/4 body "heals" you by cleaning up the board. That is usually more relevant and better bang for the buck than just a 3/3 heal for 3.
What do you guys think?
try out oaheart, it is really good in this kind of deck. I purposely run tar creepers, voidlords and vulgars so you can pull out a mini taunt wall with him. If you are running medivh though, arcane tyrants can be great for if you have atiesh loaded up and play your first seal, then drop a tyrant. also corridor creeper goes in everything, so add it.
I would not add oakheart if you're keeping medivh though, one or the other will suffice.
I run both of the versions, but not played the medivh one enough yet to really know which is better.
If you all building a control warlock I suggest 2 Twisting nether, trust me when I say this you won't regret it.
Also Kobold Librarian...not that good imo. Just in a CW deck.
doomsayer is good also, I auto include 2 in every control style warlock deck I make now. so good for stalling out with the first one early game, then dropping the 2nd after a twisting nether from turn ten onward. can't believe I overlooked the card for so long... then again I didn't play control till this meta so had no use for it.
What does your list look like? This deck is quite bad against Razakus, and sometimes you just accept the bad matchup. Razakus is like only 8% of the metagame, so why sweat it?
i played 5 priests in a Row yesterday, thats why it bothered me, i will post my list later.
Its a free win vs hunter tho, i dont think it is even possible to lose to the current hunter decks with this kind of deck iam 10-0 right now.
Most decks are steamrolled by Razakus, so I wouldn't worry about it. Literally nothing any deck can do against Razakus except hope they draw poorly.
Overall, your list has a lot of bad minions and at higher ranks you'll be hard punished for it.
Homunculus has turned out to be a dud of a card. Voidwalker is a wasted deck space.
Dreadlord and Enforcer are pretty weak in the current meta.
I'd say look around at other Control lock decks to replace those 4 cards and you'll fare better.
this sort of thing is better, although the n'zoth version is probably the best for sticking power (don't have n'zoth though) the 2 tech slots can contain anything and be default they usually have doomsayers, just trying out different combo's
If you all building a control warlock I suggest 2 Twisting nether, trust me when I say this you won't regret it.
Also Kobold Librarian...not that good imo. Just in a CW deck.
Yeah, no shit. I mean, the fucking decks already have like unlimited removal so why not add more. Makes for an interactive game of solitaire-stone. Excellent.
Yeah, I can't argue with any of the criticisms of this deck. The pre K&C version was super strong but it's not as good in the current meta. Voidlord warlock decks are definitely better post K&C. I'm going to get around to trying them out in the near future.
Current winrate with this deck is 89% (17-2) (Before anybody asks, I was at rank 15 / 14 so long because in between games with this deck I was also trying to make Budget Tempo Rogue and Budget Tempo Warrior work -- neither did, I lost so many dang games with those decks :))
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i run a similar deck with a few diferent cards then you do, how is your WR against priests? Iam at 26-18 (59% WR) but against priests i have 1-8.
if i dont dirty rat their Raza i lose.
What does your list look like? This deck is quite bad against Razakus, and sometimes you just accept the bad matchup. Razakus is like only 8% of the metagame, so why sweat it?
Catch me on YouTube and Twitch: https://www.youtube.com/c/Hindered https://www.twitch.tv/hindered_
My take on the Patches Raza Bonemare Creeper nerfs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wysTG125huM
I would not add oakheart if you're keeping medivh though, one or the other will suffice.
I run both of the versions, but not played the medivh one enough yet to really know which is better.
If you all building a control warlock I suggest 2 Twisting nether, trust me when I say this you won't regret it.
Also Kobold Librarian...not that good imo. Just in a CW deck.
Most decks are steamrolled by Razakus, so I wouldn't worry about it. Literally nothing any deck can do against Razakus except hope they draw poorly.
Overall, your list has a lot of bad minions and at higher ranks you'll be hard punished for it.
Homunculus has turned out to be a dud of a card. Voidwalker is a wasted deck space.
Dreadlord and Enforcer are pretty weak in the current meta.
I'd say look around at other Control lock decks to replace those 4 cards and you'll fare better.
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the 2 tech slots can contain anything and be default they usually have doomsayers, just trying out different combo's
I win due to skill and lose due to bad RNG. :D
Yeah, I can't argue with any of the criticisms of this deck. The pre K&C version was super strong but it's not as good in the current meta. Voidlord warlock decks are definitely better post K&C. I'm going to get around to trying them out in the near future.
Catch me on YouTube and Twitch: https://www.youtube.com/c/Hindered https://www.twitch.tv/hindered_
My take on the Patches Raza Bonemare Creeper nerfs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wysTG125huM