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how is this deck performing in the current meta? or is it too early to tell since the nerf to UTH going to might things? Im only lacking 2 rares so thinking of making them and running this, seems like fun

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how is this deck performing in the current meta? or is it too early to tell since the nerf to UTH going to might things? Im only lacking 2 rares so thinking of making them and running this, seems like fun

I think its too early to tell, but probable changes are:
bloodlust -> al'akir
TBK -> cairne

ah okay. hmm I saw your comment on the UTH nerf thread, why does it buff shaman and priest by "a lot" as opposed to the other classes?

Quick question: What do you think of running a 1 of gadgetzan auctioneer and rag in a shaman midrange? Or are they just too slow for the current meta?

I don't know nuba. I have a much higher winrate playing on a new account with my current shaman deck, and I'm at rank 1 with 2 stars. After 100 games from rank 20 I have an 82 % winrate. My takes out two argent squires, 1 mana tide, 2 defenders, no ooze and puts in: earth ele x1, sejin x1, cairne, ala'kir, TBK, lava burst x1, and doomhammer x1. I usually strangulate my opponent into late game and finally play my earth elemental ONLY when I have a way to deal with it in case they faceless it/mind control etc. I honestly think defender and argent squires are so slow in this meta full of zoo and rogues, while taking away a significant amount of your late game power. More often than not, the defender just sits in my hand as a dead card while zoo runs away with the game. I feel like the heavy taunts and late game in my deck give you a fighting chance to avoid the TKO nature of the cancer that is zoo, while giving you a fighting chance to get back into the game. Also, I find that Cairne and all of my late game just makes this deck so much better vs control warriors/priests/druids. If you recall, I used your deck last season to rank 5 from 25 and it was great. I just can't ignore the progress I've made with this deck. Also, I might change one unbound or ala'kir for Rag. Still testing.

I just can't justify sacrificing so much late game for argent squires/ 1/3 totems. I guess it's just preference like you said.

I use them (the squires, at least) to make it through early-game, win by mid-game, and not have to worry about late-game.

I was running without a Mana Tide earlier (used Gadgetzan instead), but swapped that out for one. Dunno how I'd feel about two. Especially after my game last night against aggro mage where I had 2x Flametongue, Mana Tide, 2x Hex, Earthen Ring, and a Lightning Bolt as my first draws. :P

What do you think of Forked Lightning in this Deck? I have been testing it in an unrelated Shaman deck and it runs well, especially with so much Zoo around, and was wondering what you thought of it as a possibility here. Also I have everything except Al'Akir here, what would you replace him with?

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The thing about forked is the same thing about earth elemental, to a certain extent: its a good card versus one specific deck, but horrible/bad/not-so-good versus everything else. Also you have a lot of early game 1 mana removal already (6 cards) so there is no need to add one more. I also would never remove any of the 1-drop removals I currently use from this deck

Al'Akir is good and indeed win games, but I guess you could swap for anything you'd like. I'd personally recommend using a argent commander

If I had Al'Akir I would use him, but I don't and I have 0 dust so I figure I can't get him this season unless I get lucky and pull him. Thanks for the reply: I won't try it in this Deck. (The Forked might work better in my other Deck because I run a Kobold Geomancer in addition to the others and it is a bit slower, so a lot of times I can get 4-5 damage on it which makes it useful in other machups, probably not as good here). I've got an Argent so I will try that, but since I run it in 6 in a good deal of my other decks what do you think of Sunwalker?

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Just hit legend AGAIN as shaman, with the newer updated version(and a very high winrate)!
There is a huge and well structed article with everything about it, from strategy against all oponents, to deck breakdown and card discussion comming up on the site I write for.
Its already been submited, so it should be up by tomorrow(or even later today)!

Please link the article when it'll be up :)

what do you think about bloodlust?