Of course you can play without neptulon and al'akir. You can pretty much copy any deck you see and replace them with Dr. Boom and Doomhammer. It's not the same thing but it's still somewhat ok, as these two cards kind of fill the same role of getting value and giving you burst respectively. If a list runs both Neptulon and Boom, a value legendary like Sylvanas or Cairne can probably do, even Sneed's.
Really, it comes down to what legendaries you have. Do you have any?
If not, a Doomhammer would seem needed, maybe a bloodlust too for added finisher. Some add a violet teacher to pop tokens for bloodlust.
Way old school would be 1 or 2 argent commanders (4/2 with divine shield), but boy, nowadays with all the 5HP minions running around, if can be tough to be 1 HP shy of minion removal.
Also, you can roll with a more magic oriented deck by including both lightning bolts and crackles, with an added Lava Burst. This helps with board control, and also can be an amazing finisher. People don't expect 2x crackle for 6-12 dmg, plus a Lava Burst and/or lightning bolt. Can take them down from 12-15HP pretty reliably. I run a deck like this, but I have Dr Boom, Al A'kir AND Toshley to support the magic. Oh, and a Bloodlust with Violet Teacher. Not to mention Thalnos for the easy +1 magic. It is pretty flexible because of this setup. Without all of those, it may be tougher to set up a win condition, but it can be done. Just make sure you have your card draw so you can collect the needed cards for finishing while having enough cards to continue to manipulate the board.
Of course you can. Your deck choice doesn't restrict you from playing in ladder, regardless of region. You can definitely play on ladder, even with basic decks.
Of course you can. Your deck choice doesn't restrict you from playing in ladder, regardless of region. You can definitely play on ladder, even with basic decks.
I think he means can he still be competitive, not if he's able to queue up for a game. If you can show me a person enjoying ladder with a basic deck I have a bridge to sell you.
I have a lot of legendaries, including sylvanas, ragnaros, ysera, dr boom, harrison jones, cairne etc etc, just not the shaman ones. And i dont even have doomhammer :(
Doomhammer has mostly been dropped from all shaman due to all the harrisons and oozes running around. Al'Akir is more or less a finisher and interchangeable with Ragnaros.
Sylvanas, cairne, etc.etc. with deathrattle go into some midrange/tempo/control decks. Pre-gvg shaman almost never used Al'akir(requires setup, low stats, and even now your rockbiters are probably used for 'control') and nuptulon is just a handy... hand filling card for decks that don't want to run drakes or mana tide totem.
Of course you can. Your deck choice doesn't restrict you from playing in ladder, regardless of region. You can definitely play on ladder, even with basic decks.
I think he means can he still be competitive, not if he's able to queue up for a game. If you can show me a person enjoying ladder with a basic deck I have a bridge to sell you.
Then it depends on his treshold for frustration, because no one can tell him whether he will enjoy laddering with a windlord-less shaman deck or not.
Of course you can. Your deck choice doesn't restrict you from playing in ladder, regardless of region. You can definitely play on ladder, even with basic decks.
I think he means can he still be competitive, not if he's able to queue up for a game. If you can show me a person enjoying ladder with a basic deck I have a bridge to sell you.
Then it depends on his treshold for frustration, because no one can tell him whether he will enjoy laddering with a windlord-less shaman deck or not.
I think you really misread that
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Yo guys, as topics, i want to play some shaman (not aggro, aggro is lame), but dont have neptulon or alakir. Any viable and working decks?
Of course you can play without neptulon and al'akir. You can pretty much copy any deck you see and replace them with Dr. Boom and Doomhammer. It's not the same thing but it's still somewhat ok, as these two cards kind of fill the same role of getting value and giving you burst respectively. If a list runs both Neptulon and Boom, a value legendary like Sylvanas or Cairne can probably do, even Sneed's.
My comments refer mostly to the wild format.
Really, it comes down to what legendaries you have. Do you have any?
If not, a Doomhammer would seem needed, maybe a bloodlust too for added finisher. Some add a violet teacher to pop tokens for bloodlust.
Way old school would be 1 or 2 argent commanders (4/2 with divine shield), but boy, nowadays with all the 5HP minions running around, if can be tough to be 1 HP shy of minion removal.
Also, you can roll with a more magic oriented deck by including both lightning bolts and crackles, with an added Lava Burst. This helps with board control, and also can be an amazing finisher. People don't expect 2x crackle for 6-12 dmg, plus a Lava Burst and/or lightning bolt. Can take them down from 12-15HP pretty reliably. I run a deck like this, but I have Dr Boom, Al A'kir AND Toshley to support the magic. Oh, and a Bloodlust with Violet Teacher. Not to mention Thalnos for the easy +1 magic. It is pretty flexible because of this setup. Without all of those, it may be tougher to set up a win condition, but it can be done. Just make sure you have your card draw so you can collect the needed cards for finishing while having enough cards to continue to manipulate the board.
Of course you can. Your deck choice doesn't restrict you from playing in ladder, regardless of region. You can definitely play on ladder, even with basic decks.
"Put your face in the light!" - Tirion Fordring
I think he means can he still be competitive, not if he's able to queue up for a game. If you can show me a person enjoying ladder with a basic deck I have a bridge to sell you.
I hate zoo
I have a lot of legendaries, including sylvanas, ragnaros, ysera, dr boom, harrison jones, cairne etc etc, just not the shaman ones. And i dont even have doomhammer :(
Doomhammer has mostly been dropped from all shaman due to all the harrisons and oozes running around. Al'Akir is more or less a finisher and interchangeable with Ragnaros.
Sylvanas, cairne, etc.etc. with deathrattle go into some midrange/tempo/control decks. Pre-gvg shaman almost never used Al'akir(requires setup, low stats, and even now your rockbiters are probably used for 'control') and nuptulon is just a handy... hand filling card for decks that don't want to run drakes or mana tide totem.
Then it depends on his treshold for frustration, because no one can tell him whether he will enjoy laddering with a windlord-less shaman deck or not.
"Put your face in the light!" - Tirion Fordring
I think you really misread that
I hate zoo