Yes, shaman needs to be nerfed and soon. It is killing the hype that came with this expansion, both because of the win rate and the number of people playing it. The power level of shaman is off the charts and its ruining the meta
Yes I agree. At the moment quest shaman is mainly countered by control shaman. I am trying to play control and I tend to beat Galakrond shaman both quest or not simply with lots of AoE healing and my still favourite hero card Hagatha. At the end they run out of fuel and lose by fatigue. However it is NOT 100%
I thought they might nerf quest shaman not due it being op but simply due to the fact that so many were playing it (20%). Last time there were this many players playing once class they nerfed multiple shaman cards.
Now the issue isn't really quest shaman, the top decks in the game are either Galakrond Shaman or Galakron Overload Shaman, both with an insane win rate. And even more shaman players than before. As someone who enjoys shaman (it's my only golden hero) I agree it's time to balance this.
yes, get it all the way out of here. with the quickness might i add.
it just isnt fun to play against. I play highlander hunter and beat it most times, but after facing around 10 in a row on ladder you just have to laugh at how ridiculous it is. How many broken cards did they think they had to print to make the class good? its been like 3-4 expansions and they print over statted cards for it each time, which would be ok if it was like 1-2, but its like 4-5.
What also strikes me is , we got so many great Dragons , and instantly a 4 mana 8/8 with rush to counter them . How are we supposed to counter Shaman?? They have so many rush guys to dominate the board and endless cardgeneration ( + Mogu shenanigans) .
I usually don't like nerf threads this early in any expansion, but this time Blizzard has outdone themselves... Why is Shaman getting so much value, why haven't they learned from the shudderwock mistake. Crazy shit like this is only fun when you are the one pulling it off, but its no fun being at the other end of the stick.
From my last 8 games I played 7 Shamans!! New Expansion has come out, you wanna try out some memes, fun decks toy around with some new synergies and classes, but nooo, all your brain cells get activated asking yourself how to beat this stupid Shaman deck, without going mirror...
Holy wrath paladin does actually counter shaman. What makes shaman strong is all the invokes are insanely efficient removal, and galakrond + shudderwock is a strong enough endgame against most decks. Holy wrath pala doesn't care about it's stuff getting removed and shaman just doesn't pressure fast enough to win. The problem with that is Holy wrath pala doesn't run any new cards, so if you wanna play a new deck you basically have to play shaman. It completely kill the hype because you can either play shaman, lose to shaman, or play 0 new cards.
i just don't know what these devs where thinking when they printed the shaman galakrond cards. they basically cover all the weaknesses quest shaman had and the aggro version is just as dumb.
you can not beat this deck if they have decent draw and i don't care, what you "i beat a shaman one time with my deck" guys are saying.
and btw, a just played 14 out of 20 games vs shaman.
Blizzard office:
'guys... 70% of the players are playing quest shaman since months now, should we nerf it?'
"weeeeell yeees but..... what about adding 4 cards with a fucking ovepowered battlecry?in the next espansion"
"yeaaaaah coool, you are so smart!"
''and... and... what about a 5 atk rush minion than turns a lackey or another stupid token a 5 rush minion too and can be evolved?"
"yeaaaaah coool, you are so smart too!"
Buff healing cards to counter Burn style deck in other ways than aggro.
Make the quest Hero Power 1 mana for next minion or 3 for the turn (like it is now)
Evolve should keep the mana cost of the minion like Recombobulator or nerf the card to 2 mana.
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Shamanstone back guys, 99% ladder shaman, stupid tier 0 deck
Edit my last 7 games, was x shaman rank 2 "balanced deck"
no not yet, let me get my 1000 wins portrait then we can talk.
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Yes, shaman needs to be nerfed and soon. It is killing the hype that came with this expansion, both because of the win rate and the number of people playing it. The power level of shaman is off the charts and its ruining the meta
100% win rate vs quest shaman .
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Control Shaman :(
Yes I agree. At the moment quest shaman is mainly countered by control shaman. I am trying to play control and I tend to beat Galakrond shaman both quest or not simply with lots of AoE healing and my still favourite hero card Hagatha. At the end they run out of fuel and lose by fatigue. However it is NOT 100%
what can we use this for it not at 50% after you with yours its 48% win rate if you count all... where is the last 18% wins
the rest should be mirrors
I thought they might nerf quest shaman not due it being op but simply due to the fact that so many were playing it (20%). Last time there were this many players playing once class they nerfed multiple shaman cards.
Now the issue isn't really quest shaman, the top decks in the game are either Galakrond Shaman or Galakron Overload Shaman, both with an insane win rate. And even more shaman players than before. As someone who enjoys shaman (it's my only golden hero) I agree it's time to balance this.
yes, get it all the way out of here. with the quickness might i add.
it just isnt fun to play against. I play highlander hunter and beat it most times, but after facing around 10 in a row on ladder you just have to laugh at how ridiculous it is. How many broken cards did they think they had to print to make the class good? its been like 3-4 expansions and they print over statted cards for it each time, which would be ok if it was like 1-2, but its like 4-5.
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mirrors will just be 50% in it self no matter what happen so this should not be it
A nerf should have happened a long time ago.
What also strikes me is , we got so many great Dragons , and instantly a 4 mana 8/8 with rush to counter them . How are we supposed to counter Shaman?? They have so many rush guys to dominate the board and endless cardgeneration ( + Mogu shenanigans) .
Those percentage counts all the levels of the ladder. I used to camp on level 20 to have some legit fun trying decks.
I think over level 10 those percentage are way different. shaman is easily around 40% and raising as higher as you go.
Indeed a problem to value
I usually don't like nerf threads this early in any expansion, but this time Blizzard has outdone themselves...
Why is Shaman getting so much value, why haven't they learned from the shudderwock mistake.
Crazy shit like this is only fun when you are the one pulling it off, but its no fun being at the other end of the stick.
From my last 8 games I played 7 Shamans!!
New Expansion has come out, you wanna try out some memes, fun decks toy around with some new synergies and classes,
but nooo, all your brain cells get activated asking yourself how to beat this stupid Shaman deck, without going mirror...
#nerfshaman!
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I wish that they had just given other classes more powerful cards to compete with shaman.
Because they should have seen this coming.
Holy wrath paladin does actually counter shaman. What makes shaman strong is all the invokes are insanely efficient removal, and galakrond + shudderwock is a strong enough endgame against most decks. Holy wrath pala doesn't care about it's stuff getting removed and shaman just doesn't pressure fast enough to win. The problem with that is Holy wrath pala doesn't run any new cards, so if you wanna play a new deck you basically have to play shaman. It completely kill the hype because you can either play shaman, lose to shaman, or play 0 new cards.
i just don't know what these devs where thinking when they printed the shaman galakrond cards. they basically cover all the weaknesses quest shaman had and the aggro version is just as dumb.
you can not beat this deck if they have decent draw and i don't care, what you "i beat a shaman one time with my deck" guys are saying.
and btw, a just played 14 out of 20 games vs shaman.
blizzard, please fix this s***.