i used 1 storm caser + 2 schemes and no toads and warmages. I use witch brews but my deck is very diffrent and the 2 mana spell has synergy with double spirits. Running two witch brews just for heal is propably too much.
Looks interesting. I personally prefer the Dragon-package, but I'll try this one out and get back to you ;)
EDIT: had to craft Swampqueen though, feelsbadman
I'm missing some cards to craft your deck. Do you think a Dragon package is better overal?
I'm not a fan. I've seen lists but I just think other classes do the dragon thing better. Dragons are also best on curve and overload can really throw this for a loop.
Looks interesting. I personally prefer the Dragon-package, but I'll try this one out and get back to you ;)
EDIT: had to craft Swampqueen though, feelsbadman
I'm missing some cards to craft your deck. Do you think a Dragon package is better overal?
I'm not a fan. I've seen lists but I just think other classes do the dragon thing better. Dragons are also best on curve and overload can really throw this for a loop.
I've never reached Legend before, but I managed to hit rank 1 in April. This season though, climbing is harder for some reason. Are there any changes to the deck I can make to increase my winrate?
Either go for a value deck with a big shudderwock or go the the fatigue plan with Archivist, if u never play shudder before archivist there is no need to support that card alot.
Lightning storm is a bad card unless there is alot of wide small minions boards in the meta.Storm chasers arent that good of a draw engine.
Rain of Toads isnt that strong because it ruins your next turn.
Thalnos needs more support.
Doom sayers arent good enoght atm without support cards.
Omega defenders, just 1 if u go the big shudderwock route.
Warmage isnt good enoght, unless in a deck where they can also work a reach.
Archivist only vs warrior.
Far sigt is fine, but there are better draw options.
As u can see your deck isnt optimal at all and u have very little defence. Spirit of the frog and thunderhead packed is nice i think. Control shaman isnt very strong atm, it has potential. Big shaman is very good
I'm a fan of the elemental package. it's a pretty flexible package that gives you a lot of value. i'd pick this over the dragon package who gives less value and less early game. (although twilight drake is nice because of shudderwock)
I've never reached Legend before, but I managed to hit rank 1 in April. This season though, climbing is harder for some reason. Are there any changes to the deck I can make to increase my winrate?
Either go for a value deck with a big shudderwock or go the the fatigue plan with Archivist, if u never play shudder before archivist there is no need to support that card alot.
Lightning storm is a bad card unless there is alot of wide small minions boards in the meta.Storm chasers arent that good of a draw engine.
Rain of Toads isnt that strong because it ruins your next turn.
Thalnos needs more support.
Doom sayers arent good enoght atm without support cards.
Omega defenders, just 1 if u go the big shudderwock route.
Warmage isnt good enoght, unless in a deck where they can also work a reach.
Archivist only vs warrior.
Far sigt is fine, but there are better draw options.
As u can see your deck isnt optimal at all and u have very little defence. Spirit of the frog and thunderhead packed is nice i think. Control shaman isnt very strong atm, it has potential. Big shaman is very good
Thalnos and Lightning Storm were put in when Nomi Priest peaked, and Stormchaser draws Hagatha's Scheme so that match-up was pretty favored. Especially with Doomsayers after the Schemes. I could replace Thalnos with something like Mind Control Tech now I guess? Sunreaver Warmage is great for Control Rogue and Hunters which are my most common match-ups, similar to Omega Defenders (if Control decks are more common, I could run Hecklebot instead). I also think you should never cut Lightning Storm from any non-Aggro Shaman deck.
Hey guys, i've hit legendary pretty fast with seebanane's list, i just removed 1x the vault for unseen saboteur for mechathun decks. Deck feels very balanced between surival against aggro and value and tempo against warrior. Im 9-4 atm vs warrior. The value you get from bog creeper is insane, bouncing a swampqueen so you can play it twice is so nice, make sure to get storm bringer once. When you get hagatha you'll always get spells to stick 4 minions. Then play ur shudderwock.
What also happens frequently is you discover eureka and sometimes you hit shudderwock on it. So you can bounce and have shudderwock x2. This is the list:
### Control elemental # Class: Shaman # Format: Standard # Year of the Dragon # # 1x (1) Earth Shock # 1x (1) Lightning Bolt # 2x (1) Sludge Slurper # 2x (2) Acidic Swamp Ooze # 2x (2) Menacing Nimbus # 2x (2) Witch's Brew # 1x (3) Bog Slosher # 1x (3) Lightning Storm # 1x (3) Mind Control Tech # 2x (4) Hex # 1x (4) Storm Chaser # 2x (4) Twilight Drake # 1x (5) Big Game Hunter # 2x (5) Hagatha's Scheme # 1x (5) Zilliax # 1x (6) Unseen Saboteur # 1x (7) Giggling Inventor # 1x (7) Swampqueen Hagatha # 1x (8) Archivist Elysiana # 1x (8) Hagatha the Witch # 2x (8) Walking Fountain # 1x (9) Shudderwock # AAECAaoIDvkD9QTeBf8F+Qyn7gLv9wLi+ALq+gKggAOLhQPSmAO5mQOGnQMI/gWKB40IioADrZEDipQDxZkDxpkDAA== # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone # Generated by HDT - https://hsreplay.net
You have too much board clear and not enough actual threats. Ditch the doomsayers and don't be scared to add in 1 copy of Bloodlust, that card will instantly win you so many games, especially if a Walking Fountain stays up.
Hey man, the deck already has 2 Oozes and Doomsayers KAPPA
No Hecklebot can screw you up big time. I decided to remove it after very bad experiences. I am using Rotten Appelbaum. It costs 1 mana more but it is safer
Looks interesting. I personally prefer the Dragon-package, but I'll try this one out and get back to you ;)
EDIT: had to craft Swampqueen though, feelsbadman
I'm missing some cards to craft your deck. Do you think a Dragon package is better overal?
I'm not a fan. I've seen lists but I just think other classes do the dragon thing better. Dragons are also best on curve and overload can really throw this for a loop.
Hagatha is also for aditional boardclears. 13 minions + the blazing invocation + Archivist is a lot. But yes i would like to add a storm caser. Just don´t know which spell to remove. They are all important....
I did also think of using a chef instead of Archivist to finish the games earlier. I played the deck without Archivist and it does win but if you fight a control deck and he has a board clear (mainly brawl) left when you pull off the refill after shudder it´s lost....
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i used 1 storm caser + 2 schemes and no toads and warmages. I use witch brews but my deck is very diffrent and the 2 mana spell has synergy with double spirits. Running two witch brews just for heal is propably too much.
I'm missing some cards to craft your deck. Do you think a Dragon package is better overal?
I'm not a fan. I've seen lists but I just think other classes do the dragon thing better. Dragons are also best on curve and overload can really throw this for a loop.
### Control
# Class: Shaman
# Format: Standard
# Year of the Dragon
#
# 2x (1) Sludge Slurper
# 1x (2) Acidic Swamp Ooze
# 2x (2) Menacing Nimbus
# 1x (2) Witch's Brew
# 2x (3) Far Sight
# 2x (3) Haunting Visions
# 1x (3) Lightning Storm
# 2x (4) Hex
# 2x (4) Twilight Drake
# 2x (5) Hagatha's Scheme
# 1x (5) Zilliax
# 2x (6) Fire Elemental
# 2x (6) Rain of Toads
# 2x (7) Giggling Inventor
# 1x (7) Swampqueen Hagatha
# 1x (8) Archivist Elysiana
# 1x (8) Hagatha the Witch
# 2x (8) Walking Fountain
# 1x (9) Shudderwock
#
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This is my list. Last 18 games, 15-3 from rank 7 to 5.
Idk, I think the Dragon-package is just as useful as in Mage. You got your big 4-drop in Twilight Drake, removal with Dragonmaw Scorcher, Scaleworm and Crowd Roaster, flexibility with Nightmare Amalgam (can be Zilliax'ed), and value with Firetree Witchdoctor / Ysera etc. It's a solid core in Midrange decks, but it fits Control decks as well (fill the rest of the deck with specific cards).
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It's just unfortunate that it's a pretty good core. I like it, but I prefer a more "classic" list because that is the one I had more succes with =)
Either go for a value deck with a big shudderwock or go the the fatigue plan with Archivist, if u never play shudder before archivist there is no need to support that card alot.
Lightning storm is a bad card unless there is alot of wide small minions boards in the meta.Storm chasers arent that good of a draw engine.
Rain of Toads isnt that strong because it ruins your next turn.
Thalnos needs more support.
Doom sayers arent good enoght atm without support cards.
Omega defenders, just 1 if u go the big shudderwock route.
Warmage isnt good enoght, unless in a deck where they can also work a reach.
Archivist only vs warrior.
Far sigt is fine, but there are better draw options.
As u can see your deck isnt optimal at all and u have very little defence. Spirit of the frog and thunderhead packed is nice i think. Control shaman isnt very strong atm, it has potential. Big shaman is very good
This still works.
I'm a fan of the elemental package. it's a pretty flexible package that gives you a lot of value. i'd pick this over the dragon package who gives less value and less early game. (although twilight drake is nice because of shudderwock)
Thalnos and Lightning Storm were put in when Nomi Priest peaked, and Stormchaser draws Hagatha's Scheme so that match-up was pretty favored. Especially with Doomsayers after the Schemes. I could replace Thalnos with something like Mind Control Tech now I guess? Sunreaver Warmage is great for Control Rogue and Hunters which are my most common match-ups, similar to Omega Defenders (if Control decks are more common, I could run Hecklebot instead). I also think you should never cut Lightning Storm from any non-Aggro Shaman deck.
I'm trying your suggestions, thanks a lot guys =)
I added Lifedrinker as well. Not sure about the Saboteur. How are the Nimbuses performing?
Hey guys, i've hit legendary pretty fast with seebanane's list, i just removed 1x the vault for unseen saboteur for mechathun decks. Deck feels very balanced between surival against aggro and value and tempo against warrior. Im 9-4 atm vs warrior. The value you get from bog creeper is insane, bouncing a swampqueen so you can play it twice is so nice, make sure to get storm bringer once. When you get hagatha you'll always get spells to stick 4 minions. Then play ur shudderwock.
What also happens frequently is you discover eureka and sometimes you hit shudderwock on it. So you can bounce and have shudderwock x2.
This is the list:
### Control elemental
# Class: Shaman
# Format: Standard
# Year of the Dragon
#
# 1x (1) Earth Shock
# 1x (1) Lightning Bolt
# 2x (1) Sludge Slurper
# 2x (2) Acidic Swamp Ooze
# 2x (2) Menacing Nimbus
# 2x (2) Witch's Brew
# 1x (3) Bog Slosher
# 1x (3) Lightning Storm
# 1x (3) Mind Control Tech
# 2x (4) Hex
# 1x (4) Storm Chaser
# 2x (4) Twilight Drake
# 1x (5) Big Game Hunter
# 2x (5) Hagatha's Scheme
# 1x (5) Zilliax
# 1x (6) Unseen Saboteur
# 1x (7) Giggling Inventor
# 1x (7) Swampqueen Hagatha
# 1x (8) Archivist Elysiana
# 1x (8) Hagatha the Witch
# 2x (8) Walking Fountain
# 1x (9) Shudderwock
#
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# Generated by HDT - https://hsreplay.net
You have too much board clear and not enough actual threats. Ditch the doomsayers and don't be scared to add in 1 copy of Bloodlust, that card will instantly win you so many games, especially if a Walking Fountain stays up.
No Hecklebot can screw you up big time. I decided to remove it after very bad experiences. I am using Rotten Appelbaum. It costs 1 mana more but it is safer
I am using this one at the moment at rank 5. I get nice win streaks and then I start losing again. I don't know how to tweak it more than this.
Maybe I should just drop the Omega Defender and add a new Lightining Storm
Hi
This is what i used. I gave up despite winning due to facing lots of warriors and the games were over 30 minutes.
Wouldn't it be better to run more minions if you use Hagatha the Witch?
https://outof.cards
I used this version on EU to get from rank 20 to 10 in a couple of days:
https://outof.cards
Well maybe the Elysiana Shudderwock package is a bit much, I'll try your version one out then, thanks =)
Hagatha is also for aditional boardclears. 13 minions + the blazing invocation + Archivist is a lot. But yes i would like to add a storm caser. Just don´t know which spell to remove. They are all important....
I did also think of using a chef instead of Archivist to finish the games earlier. I played the deck without Archivist and it does win but if you fight a control deck and he has a board clear (mainly brawl) left when you pull off the refill after shudder it´s lost....