I'm curious on what everyone feels about the Shaman class' potential is in the newest expansion. I pretty much only play Shaman, and I'm pretty excited to try the new cards. Zentimo OTK seems like a neat deck, and Clone shaman with Snowfury Giant gets some new tools with Rain of Toads and Haunting Vision (Malygos too, with the new 1-mana spell, but oh boy does it get ruined by Skulking Geist). I'm looking forward to trying out some random Shaman archetypes too, more fringe unicorn types. Really I'm just tired of playing the same-old same-old Even and Shudderwock Shaman, and Token Shaman feels way too inconsistent to play in Ranked.
Where do you guys think Shaman stands in the next few months leading up to the rotation?
I say this is a fan of the Shaman class ever since I joined near the launch of TGT, and who's kept up with Shaman's cards and such past and present ever since: this is by far the most well-rounded expansion Shaman has had since before Year of the Mammoth. True, Shudderwock, Genn, and Murkspark Eel have saved Shaman this year from complete competitive obscurity, but the class has otherwise been on life support and, more often than not, has relied on Neutral cards and Flametongue Totem as the backbone of their decks, or at the very least to compliment their Evolve effects.
Every single card in Shaman's set this year has potential at worst and powerful applications at best.
I say this is a fan of the Shaman class ever since I joined near the launch of TGT, and who's kept up with Shaman's cards and such past and present ever since: this is by far the most well-rounded expansion Shaman has had since before Year of the Mammoth. True, Shudderwock, Genn, and Murkspark Eel have saved Shaman this year from complete competitive obscurity, but the class has otherwise been on life support and, more often than not, has relied on Neutral cards and Flametongue Totem as the backbone of their decks, or at the very least to compliment their Evolve effects.
Every single card in Shaman's set this year has potential at worst and powerful applications at best.
I agree wholeheartedly. I think that Shaman is at least starting to find its identity, even if Blizzard is still kinda all over the place with what they've tried to do for the class.
I say this is a fan of the Shaman class ever since I joined near the launch of TGT, and who's kept up with Shaman's cards and such past and present ever since: this is by far the most well-rounded expansion Shaman has had since before Year of the Mammoth. True, Shudderwock, Genn, and Murkspark Eel have saved Shaman this year from complete competitive obscurity, but the class has otherwise been on life support and, more often than not, has relied on Neutral cards and Flametongue Totem as the backbone of their decks, or at the very least to compliment their Evolve effects.
Every single card in Shaman's set this year has potential at worst and powerful applications at best.
Because this is what happens when you have a horrible hero power running off of RNG and next to no support for that hero power.
I've reviewed shaman cards recently (Won't post the link, find out where I posted it).
I really liked the designs of it, even if it's too "fair" to see some play in meta. One thing I like is Spirit of the Frog, it's simply the best shaman card ever printed because it has amazing ideas. Krag'wa, the Frog disappoint me because It does not provide the value of minion (such as add a specific or random minion to your hand after you cast a spell). thus, another fair card.
As a fellow shaman main I agree, so much well rounded tools and support this expansion that I have high hopes for the class (and I'm sure shaman might reign supreme after the rotation).
Tried overload, malygos, even (overload and elemental versions too), shudder (otk and buff version), elemental and the surprisingly successful Eureka/big shaman (spellstone giant shaman but you play 2 6mana lichkings or al'akirs)
Almost all archetypes had a too fair powerlevel to compete with other OP decks, but were we much fun, and they're all getting support, yay!
Eureka! into MalygosFrost Shock x2 Totemic Smash x2, is a 10 mana 26 damage combo, it needs 6 cards but you could technically also run Alexstrasza in that deck like old Freeze mage used to do, then you'd only need Eureka+Maly+3 spells, it doesn't seem too way out the question, i mean Ancestor's Call shamman was playable back in the day, albeit a tier 4 deck, but that was a really fast meta compared to the current one. The only problem is that Skulking Geist exists, but come next april geist rotates out and this could become a valid win condition since none of the cards involved in this combo are rotating out.
You must not be much of a Shaman player. GvG was awful for Shaman, condemned the class to a year of obscurity.
Anyway, I think Even Shaman will be dead in the new expansion (as an avid Even Shaman player), for a number of reasons including opponents having Overkill effects at their command.
Malygos Shaman looks strong (and I'm not TOO worried about Skulking Geist), and it's up in the air whether some other spell-based shaman will be able to be strong. I've theorycrafted a Fast Burn-Shaman, but it feels like it's missing something still:
You must not be much of a Shaman player. GvG was awful for Shaman, condemned the class to a year of obscurity.
Anyway, I think Even Shaman will be dead in the new expansion (as an avid Even Shaman player), for a number of reasons including opponents having Overkill effects at their command.
Malygos Shaman looks strong (and I'm not TOO worried about Skulking Geist), and it's up in the air whether some other spell-based shaman will be able to be strong. I've theorycrafted a Fast Burn-Shaman, but it feels like it's missing something still:
You must not be much of a Shaman player. GvG was awful for Shaman, condemned the class to a year of obscurity.
Anyway, I think Even Shaman will be dead in the new expansion (as an avid Even Shaman player), for a number of reasons including opponents having Overkill effects at their command.
Malygos Shaman looks strong (and I'm not TOO worried about Skulking Geist), and it's up in the air whether some other spell-based shaman will be able to be strong. I've theorycrafted a Fast Burn-Shaman, but it feels like it's missing something still:
Tall even shaman will be the way to go, it's still strong but everyone uses token now. Token even will die sure.
I'm not sold on an expansion that tries to create a half archetype and doesn't support current ones ( freeze shaman is now spell shaman ). Malygos druid will still be better, big shaman will still be a clunky deck until it gets more ways to cheat out minions, and evolve buff shaman might come to rise if kragwa/spirit/zentimo works, but i can't still find a good deck, they all feel weird.
I think combo shudderwock and even shaman will continue to see play. Stuff like overload shaman and malygos shaman always sound decent in paper but then flop.
I'll be trying non-token aggro shaman myself though.
I know it likely won't be reliable, or good at all probably, but as someone who enjoys playing Bloodlust Shaman decks, I'm super excited to at least play with a Zentimo Rockbiter WIndfury deck. If you are playing someone who doesn't have tons of armor gain and they leave even two 0/2 totems on your board with no taunts in the way, you can Zentimo, Electra, 2x Rockbiter, and Windfury (in that order and keeping the totems side by side) to make your two 0/2 totems into 9/2 windfury killing machines for 36 damage!
Again, super conditional because of the whole "no armor, no taunts" thing, but I'm still going to try and make it happen at least once! Either in casual or after reaching a ranked floor.
Also, Shaman is my only Golden Hero so far. I don't have a "main" but I obviously play Shaman the most. Last year in September, I opened Thrall, Deathseer and immediately made an Evolve Shaman deck. Pre-Corridor Creeper nerf this deck was killing it! I played probably 150 games that month alone with the deck and had a 70% or more win rate. So that month/deck is why I have golden Shaman now. :)
I know it likely won't be reliable, or good at all probably, but as someone who enjoys playing Bloodlust Shaman decks, I'm super excited to at least play with a Zentimo Rockbiter WIndfury deck. If you are playing someone who doesn't have tons of armor gain and they leave even two 0/2 totems on your board with no taunts in the way, you can Zentimo, Electra, 2x Rockbiter, and Windfury (in that order and keeping the totems side by side) to make your two 0/2 totems into 9/2 windfury killing machines for 36 damage!
Again, super conditional because of the whole "no armor, no taunts" thing, but I'm still going to try and make it happen at least once! Either in casual or after reaching a ranked floor.
Sadly, Rockbiter Weapon is nerfed and your combo is 12 mana.
Shaman has had the coolest cards since I started playing (witchwood), but the hero power and the overload mechanic are a big turnoff for me. Shaman decks also tend to be very expensive, so - even though I have Shudderwock - I can't really play around with shaman on ladder.
I will continue to have to have my shaman dose in arena.
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I'm curious on what everyone feels about the Shaman class' potential is in the newest expansion. I pretty much only play Shaman, and I'm pretty excited to try the new cards. Zentimo OTK seems like a neat deck, and Clone shaman with Snowfury Giant gets some new tools with Rain of Toads and Haunting Vision (Malygos too, with the new 1-mana spell, but oh boy does it get ruined by Skulking Geist). I'm looking forward to trying out some random Shaman archetypes too, more fringe unicorn types. Really I'm just tired of playing the same-old same-old Even and Shudderwock Shaman, and Token Shaman feels way too inconsistent to play in Ranked.
Where do you guys think Shaman stands in the next few months leading up to the rotation?
I say this is a fan of the Shaman class ever since I joined near the launch of TGT, and who's kept up with Shaman's cards and such past and present ever since: this is by far the most well-rounded expansion Shaman has had since before Year of the Mammoth. True, Shudderwock, Genn, and Murkspark Eel have saved Shaman this year from complete competitive obscurity, but the class has otherwise been on life support and, more often than not, has relied on Neutral cards and Flametongue Totem as the backbone of their decks, or at the very least to compliment their Evolve effects.
Every single card in Shaman's set this year has potential at worst and powerful applications at best.
I agree wholeheartedly. I think that Shaman is at least starting to find its identity, even if Blizzard is still kinda all over the place with what they've tried to do for the class.
Because this is what happens when you have a horrible hero power running off of RNG and next to no support for that hero power.
I've reviewed shaman cards recently (Won't post the link, find out where I posted it).
I really liked the designs of it, even if it's too "fair" to see some play in meta. One thing I like is Spirit of the Frog, it's simply the best shaman card ever printed because it has amazing ideas. Krag'wa, the Frog disappoint me because It does not provide the value of minion (such as add a specific or random minion to your hand after you cast a spell). thus, another fair card.
Atleast shaman get to have a cool cards.
I like elementals and totems.
As a fellow shaman main I agree, so much well rounded tools and support this expansion that I have high hopes for the class (and I'm sure shaman might reign supreme after the rotation).
Tried overload, malygos, even (overload and elemental versions too), shudder (otk and buff version), elemental and the surprisingly successful Eureka/big shaman (spellstone giant shaman but you play 2 6mana lichkings or al'akirs)
Almost all archetypes had a too fair powerlevel to compete with other OP decks, but were we much fun, and they're all getting support, yay!
Best set since TGT
You have 4 cards with overload and they are both bad compared to other overload cards. Why would you ever run 2 copies of Thunderhead in such a deck?
Eureka! into Malygos Frost Shock x2 Totemic Smash x2, is a 10 mana 26 damage combo, it needs 6 cards but you could technically also run Alexstrasza in that deck like old Freeze mage used to do, then you'd only need Eureka+Maly+3 spells, it doesn't seem too way out the question, i mean Ancestor's Call shamman was playable back in the day, albeit a tier 4 deck, but that was a really fast meta compared to the current one. The only problem is that Skulking Geist exists, but come next april geist rotates out and this could become a valid win condition since none of the cards involved in this combo are rotating out.
You must not be much of a Shaman player. GvG was awful for Shaman, condemned the class to a year of obscurity.
Anyway, I think Even Shaman will be dead in the new expansion (as an avid Even Shaman player), for a number of reasons including opponents having Overkill effects at their command.
Malygos Shaman looks strong (and I'm not TOO worried about Skulking Geist), and it's up in the air whether some other spell-based shaman will be able to be strong. I've theorycrafted a Fast Burn-Shaman, but it feels like it's missing something still:
Sorry, I meant TGT
Put your spoiler here.
Tall even shaman will be the way to go, it's still strong but everyone uses token now. Token even will die sure.
I'm not sold on an expansion that tries to create a half archetype and doesn't support current ones ( freeze shaman is now spell shaman ). Malygos druid will still be better, big shaman will still be a clunky deck until it gets more ways to cheat out minions, and evolve buff shaman might come to rise if kragwa/spirit/zentimo works, but i can't still find a good deck, they all feel weird.
I think combo shudderwock and even shaman will continue to see play. Stuff like overload shaman and malygos shaman always sound decent in paper but then flop.
I'll be trying non-token aggro shaman myself though.
I know it likely won't be reliable, or good at all probably, but as someone who enjoys playing Bloodlust Shaman decks, I'm super excited to at least play with a Zentimo Rockbiter WIndfury deck. If you are playing someone who doesn't have tons of armor gain and they leave even two 0/2 totems on your board with no taunts in the way, you can Zentimo, Electra, 2x Rockbiter, and Windfury (in that order and keeping the totems side by side) to make your two 0/2 totems into 9/2 windfury killing machines for 36 damage!
Again, super conditional because of the whole "no armor, no taunts" thing, but I'm still going to try and make it happen at least once! Either in casual or after reaching a ranked floor.
Also, Shaman is my only Golden Hero so far. I don't have a "main" but I obviously play Shaman the most. Last year in September, I opened Thrall, Deathseer and immediately made an Evolve Shaman deck. Pre-Corridor Creeper nerf this deck was killing it! I played probably 150 games that month alone with the deck and had a 70% or more win rate. So that month/deck is why I have golden Shaman now. :)
Sadly, Rockbiter Weapon is nerfed and your combo is 12 mana.
Shaman has had the coolest cards since I started playing (witchwood), but the hero power and the overload mechanic are a big turnoff for me. Shaman decks also tend to be very expensive, so - even though I have Shudderwock - I can't really play around with shaman on ladder.
I will continue to have to have my shaman dose in arena.