I'm sure I'm not the only one who saw the potential of Necrium Blade.
1) Get the weapon to 3/1 by attacking once 2) Once you have Kobold Illusionist, Malygos and a lot of spells in your hand, you can start going off 3) Play Kobold Illusionist and attack with the weapon, summoning Malygos for 4 mana 4) Play Eviscerates (9 damage each), Razor Petals (6 damage each) or Sinister Strikes (8 damage each)
If you don't have enough spells yet, you can also get more with Valeera. WIth the amazing draw Rogue has (Minstrel to draw your combo minions reliably) you can OTK control decks starting at turn 10 and Warlock, Rogue and Paladin decks even sooner, depending on how much damage they took from weapons and tapping. Also depending on how many "Moonfires" you can generate and depending on whether you run Sinister Strikes or not, you won't have a lot of dead cards in your hand either. It's basically just Illusionist and Malgyos. Everything else is playable.
What do you guys think? The deck might not be as resilient as Shudderwock, but it should beat Shudderwock and other control decks pretty easily. If you fill the empty slots with generally good tempo cards you might be able to reduce the amount of burst you need. And you could also switch to a more controlling style by using your combo on something like Fan of Knives which turns into a beastly AoE combo if you have to.
So far I'm not convinced that Warlock's new tech "option" really does anything. Against this deck it could still transform the Kobold Illusionist instead of Malygos giving you a 50/50 chance to still pull off the combo later. And I doubt that Warlocks would run two of these, because the spell doesn't come with a body and it might transform their Rin or other useful minions.
I think that a deck like this could work out, maybe take a traditional miracle deck, gut out usual win conditions and put in Malygos, 1 Kobold Illusionist (I don't think that warlock card is going to be great, even if it does see play, then just run two) and finally, two Razorpetal Volleys. The burst is 24 damage and the initial Razorpetal Volley can even be used to activate Auctioneers earlier.
Let me whip up a list real quick.
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I don't have something witty about this deck, I just like it because Malygos is fun.
I think that a deck like this could work out, maybe take a traditional miracle deck, gut out usual win conditions and put in Malygos, 1 Kobold Illusionist (I don't think that warlock card is going to be great, even if it does see play, then just run two) and finally, two Razorpetal Volleys. The burst is 24 damage and the initial Razorpetal Volley can even be used to activate Auctioneers earlier.
Let me whip up a list real quick.
I concur, that's basically what I had in mind as well. I think the Volley would be too slow though. Just the 2/2 minions from Un'goro should be sufficient.
More seriously, if there is one problem with this combo is that it is telegraphed well in advance, giving the opponent at least 1 turn to play weapon removal.
There is already a quite decent miracle derived Malygos deck for rogue with razors, sinister strikes, even coin generators for the combo. The problem is it looses often vs. aggro and can not create enough burst to kill high armor classes (hi druid). Additionally Iwouldn't know what to cut from the existing rogue deck.
I don't really think Razorpetal Volley would be too slow since the whole list is bent around getting the combo quick and puking out the hand quickly, not to mention that probably not all of the petals would be needed for face damage due to other cards being used in the miracle turn. I guess we'll just have to try it when it comes out.
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I don't have something witty about this deck, I just like it because Malygos is fun.
A deck like this can never work because Rogue is not good at AOE and healing. It will not be very good.
Rogue has had strong malygos decks in the past. Decks like this are always match up dependent though, so if it turns out there is a slow, dominant, deck (like Cubelock) in the meta game, Miracle rogue can easily pop up and be in the meta simply because of that.
I'm aware that the deck is meta dependant. I figured it might replace Shudderwock as a control killer. If all you're facing is Hunters, Odd Rogues and Paladins, better play something else.
Just FYI, for max damage you also want to kill your Kobold Illusionist first, so you have 2 1/1 Malygoses on the board. A loss of damage on one spell is easily offset by extra damage you get from the others. Also, you can Backstab the Kobold Illusionist for no mana cost.
Just FYI, for max damage you also want to kill your Kobold Illusionist first, so you have 2 1/1 Malygoses on the board. A loss of damage on one spell is easily offset by extra damage you get from the others. Also, you can Backstab the Kobold Illusionist for no mana cost.
Yeah was just about to write this hit face for 3 with dagger backstab illusionist each eviscerate is 14 so 14+14+3=31
I'm aware that the deck is meta dependant. I figured it might replace Shudderwock as a control killer. If all you're facing is Hunters, Odd Rogues and Paladins, better play something else.
Not really, there's almost no meta where you would play this over Shudderwock. Shudderwock deals with both aggro and control better. If Druid or Warrior armors up, Maly rogue loses a lot of options. Shudderwock kills no matter how much health opponent has.
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I'm sure I'm not the only one who saw the potential of Necrium Blade.
1) Get the weapon to 3/1 by attacking once
2) Once you have Kobold Illusionist, Malygos and a lot of spells in your hand, you can start going off
3) Play Kobold Illusionist and attack with the weapon, summoning Malygos for 4 mana
4) Play Eviscerates (9 damage each), Razor Petals (6 damage each) or Sinister Strikes (8 damage each)
If you don't have enough spells yet, you can also get more with Valeera. WIth the amazing draw Rogue has (Minstrel to draw your combo minions reliably) you can OTK control decks starting at turn 10 and Warlock, Rogue and Paladin decks even sooner, depending on how much damage they took from weapons and tapping. Also depending on how many "Moonfires" you can generate and depending on whether you run Sinister Strikes or not, you won't have a lot of dead cards in your hand either. It's basically just Illusionist and Malgyos. Everything else is playable.
What do you guys think? The deck might not be as resilient as Shudderwock, but it should beat Shudderwock and other control decks pretty easily. If you fill the empty slots with generally good tempo cards you might be able to reduce the amount of burst you need. And you could also switch to a more controlling style by using your combo on something like Fan of Knives which turns into a beastly AoE combo if you have to.
So far I'm not convinced that Warlock's new tech "option" really does anything. Against this deck it could still transform the Kobold Illusionist instead of Malygos giving you a 50/50 chance to still pull off the combo later. And I doubt that Warlocks would run two of these, because the spell doesn't come with a body and it might transform their Rin or other useful minions.
I think that a deck like this could work out, maybe take a traditional miracle deck, gut out usual win conditions and put in Malygos, 1 Kobold Illusionist (I don't think that warlock card is going to be great, even if it does see play, then just run two) and finally, two Razorpetal Volleys. The burst is 24 damage and the initial Razorpetal Volley can even be used to activate Auctioneers earlier.
Let me whip up a list real quick.
I don't have something witty about this deck, I just like it because Malygos is fun.
I concur, that's basically what I had in mind as well. I think the Volley would be too slow though. Just the 2/2 minions from Un'goro should be sufficient.
Warlock got at least 2 new OTK decks in wild :)
As a Hearthstone player: cool idea.
As a non-rogue player: f uuuuuuuuuu
More seriously, if there is one problem with this combo is that it is telegraphed well in advance, giving the opponent at least 1 turn to play weapon removal.
There is already a quite decent miracle derived Malygos deck for rogue with razors, sinister strikes, even coin generators for the combo. The problem is it looses often vs. aggro and can not create enough burst to kill high armor classes (hi druid). Additionally Iwouldn't know what to cut from the existing rogue deck.
Here's the list I whipped up,
I don't really think Razorpetal Volley would be too slow since the whole list is bent around getting the combo quick and puking out the hand quickly, not to mention that probably not all of the petals would be needed for face damage due to other cards being used in the miracle turn. I guess we'll just have to try it when it comes out.
I don't have something witty about this deck, I just like it because Malygos is fun.
A deck like this can never work because Rogue is not good at AOE and healing. It will not be very good.
That list is looking good
Rogue has had strong malygos decks in the past. Decks like this are always match up dependent though, so if it turns out there is a slow, dominant, deck (like Cubelock) in the meta game, Miracle rogue can easily pop up and be in the meta simply because of that.
I don't have something witty about this deck, I just like it because Malygos is fun.
I'm aware that the deck is meta dependant. I figured it might replace Shudderwock as a control killer. If all you're facing is Hunters, Odd Rogues and Paladins, better play something else.
Just FYI, for max damage you also want to kill your Kobold Illusionist first, so you have 2 1/1 Malygoses on the board. A loss of damage on one spell is easily offset by extra damage you get from the others. Also, you can Backstab the Kobold Illusionist for no mana cost.
Yeah was just about to write this hit face for 3 with dagger backstab illusionist each eviscerate is 14 so 14+14+3=31
Not really, there's almost no meta where you would play this over Shudderwock. Shudderwock deals with both aggro and control better. If Druid or Warrior armors up, Maly rogue loses a lot of options. Shudderwock kills no matter how much health opponent has.