Is Prince Keleseth Rogue deck feasible without Pirates? If I don't have Patches, I don't think there is a reason to include other pirates, so the idea would be to put some Gnomish Inventor,Fight Promoter and other viable draw cards and include Elementals I guess?
Did someone try Price Keleseth Rogue without Pirates and what is the experience?
I saw RDU play a price keleseth rogue without pirates, instead he used stealth minions and that 4-4 that gives stealth minions +2+2 (shadow sensei I belive is the name). it looked really fun, and he was at a good win rate in rank 4, so its pretty viable I think. Worgen infiltrator, jungle panther and shadow rager was all included. to my surprise neither tiger or that other 5-5 stealth lotus guy that rogue has was included. Sorry I dont have the list, but I'm sure you will figure something out.
You certainly can run without pirates, you just have to substitute other cards in that fill similar roles. The pirates are good for tempo, so you should replace them with other tempo oriented cards. Gnomish Inventor and Fight Promoter wouldn't be good replacements in my opinion as they are bad for tempo.
The pirates are necessary because Patches, after the buff you get your tempo to play a 2/2 minion for 2 manas back with a 2/2 charge free or 3/3 charge free with captain.
If is to cut off one of the best advantages of the deck why don't give up the Keleseth? Don't run Eviscerate is a huuuuuuuuuuuuge downside for rogue, Keleseth have to provide the maximum value/tempo for compensate that.
The Keleseth Stealth variant doesn’t use pirates and is still very strong.
look up KeleStealth Rogue on this site.
It still uses Swashburglar plus patches. Even without patches should still have swash because Rogue doesn't have any other good 1 drops, you don't want to only run Fireflies. I played Kelestealth Rogue along with normal tempo rogue and both does well, my stealth package only included Jungle Panther, shadow senseis and 1x Lotus Assassin. Shadow Ragers get removed too easily by spirit lash/maelstrom.
It works pretty well without pirates. Managed rank 4 without to much trouble. Not sure if you can get to legend with it easily, but it should be possible with enough games :p
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Is Prince Keleseth Rogue deck feasible without Pirates? If I don't have Patches, I don't think there is a reason to include other pirates, so the idea would be to put some Gnomish Inventor,Fight Promoter and other viable draw cards and include Elementals I guess?
Did someone try Price Keleseth Rogue without Pirates and what is the experience?
Sure, it works just fine. I would not use cards like Gnomish Inventor and Fight Promoter though. Here's my take on it:
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I saw RDU play a price keleseth rogue without pirates, instead he used stealth minions and that 4-4 that gives stealth minions +2+2 (shadow sensei I belive is the name). it looked really fun, and he was at a good win rate in rank 4, so its pretty viable I think. Worgen infiltrator, jungle panther and shadow rager was all included. to my surprise neither tiger or that other 5-5 stealth lotus guy that rogue has was included. Sorry I dont have the list, but I'm sure you will figure something out.
You certainly can run without pirates, you just have to substitute other cards in that fill similar roles. The pirates are good for tempo, so you should replace them with other tempo oriented cards. Gnomish Inventor and Fight Promoter wouldn't be good replacements in my opinion as they are bad for tempo.
The pirates are necessary because Patches, after the buff you get your tempo to play a 2/2 minion for 2 manas back with a 2/2 charge free or 3/3 charge free with captain.
If is to cut off one of the best advantages of the deck why don't give up the Keleseth? Don't run Eviscerate is a huuuuuuuuuuuuge downside for rogue, Keleseth have to provide the maximum value/tempo for compensate that.
No, it's part of the same cancer package.
The Keleseth Stealth variant doesn’t use pirates and is still very strong.
look up KeleStealth Rogue on this site.
This question gets asked a lot about a lot of decks. The answer is always "yes, it works, just not as well."
The problem is now everyone and their moms run Golakka Crawlers and MCT which kinda makes the pirate package a bit worse.
That's been my experience lately, maybe I've just been unlucky.
I too would like to find a decent alternative to the pirates but I can't come up with anything decent.
It works pretty well without pirates. Managed rank 4 without to much trouble. Not sure if you can get to legend with it easily, but it should be possible with enough games :p
This is the deck I used:
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