As we know rogue will not get any new really viable archetypes since MSG launch so Miracle will be still our best choice, especially if meta will go to more control state. ALso I think that melee miracle can know struggle a lot, as lots of control classes got 4-5 damage mass removals (priest and warlock potions, warrior sleep with the fishes), so Maly can be better way to go.
Maly-rogue list is already finely tuned (ShtanUdachi list which was popular here on forum for example), the only card I think can be changed is Swashburglar. So what can we put instead?
Counterfeit Coin - it should really improve control matchup due to more draw with Auctioneer or playing Pillager on t2 etc.
Mistress of Mixtures - can be really good card for survival against aggro decks.
Small-Time Buccaneer - it can be really great on our 1st turn play, as it can trade with manawyrm, trogg, totem golem etc. But if we are starting 2nd we can't play both buccaneer and weapon so it became not so valuable...
So what are your thoughts, are we changing something? Coin looks great at first sight, but its not so good against aggro I think. We can play coin+coin+Pillager on t2, but then pillager receives frostbolt or soulfire and we are staying without cards and midgame... So maybe some early play minion will be better?
about MSG, my only change is 2 coin for 2 swashburglar. now i'm testing conceal instead sap, because i faced many druids. i'm playing 2 strike e noone sap.
Nope, you don't want coins in maly rogue. You can swap burglar with mistress but that's all you can do. For me the list stay unchanged. You can swap kobo for skulker . And burglar for mistress.
i think it's better to swap SIs for shurikens.
it's a spell, so affected by spell damage. 2 mana is easier to combo than 3. Can cycle with auctioneer. Can prep them.
and as for stat value, the first one is 2 mana 1/1 and the second one is 2 mana 2/2. so you are only losing 1/1 stats (compared to cost).
i personally thik swashbucklers can be substitued for swarmers in that case, so that you have a bit more presence is the early game, and it also give even more value to your shurikens, usually making the 1st one just a spell version of SI, and the 2nd one a much improved, discounted, SI.
I too used kobolt instead of skulker (mainly because i don't have skulker^^) and it worked great with FoK vs shaman. Not sure with this new meta that only has buffed minion flood. Maybe replace it with vanish if it becomes too jade/goons heavy
Nope, you don't want coins in maly rogue. You can swap burglar with mistress but that's all you can do. For me the list stay unchanged. You can swap kobo for skulker . And burglar for mistress.
Thanks I also got same decision. But I would say that jade druid gives bit better performance on rank5 now... Maybe because there are still a lot pirate warriors on that rank, and druid, renolock, midrange shammy can give better performance in this matchup compared to rogue.
Questing Miracle is simply better right now, maly is too slow of a win condition against all the pirate warriors.
But please note that maly (I suppose, as I didn't played melee miracle yet) is a way better with priests and reno as it doesn't affected by AoE board clears.
Hi folks,
As we know rogue will not get any new really viable archetypes since MSG launch so Miracle will be still our best choice, especially if meta will go to more control state. ALso I think that melee miracle can know struggle a lot, as lots of control classes got 4-5 damage mass removals (priest and warlock potions, warrior sleep with the fishes), so Maly can be better way to go.
Maly-rogue list is already finely tuned (ShtanUdachi list which was popular here on forum for example), the only card I think can be changed is Swashburglar. So what can we put instead?
Counterfeit Coin - it should really improve control matchup due to more draw with Auctioneer or playing Pillager on t2 etc.
Mistress of Mixtures - can be really good card for survival against aggro decks.
Small-Time Buccaneer - it can be really great on our 1st turn play, as it can trade with manawyrm, trogg, totem golem etc. But if we are starting 2nd we can't play both buccaneer and weapon so it became not so valuable...
So what are your thoughts, are we changing something? Coin looks great at first sight, but its not so good against aggro I think. We can play coin+coin+Pillager on t2, but then pillager receives frostbolt or soulfire and we are staying without cards and midgame... So maybe some early play minion will be better?
Just for the case here is the default list I'm talking about
about MSG, my only change is 2 coin for 2 swashburglar. now i'm testing conceal instead sap, because i faced many druids.
i'm playing 2 strike e noone sap.
Questing Miracle is simply better right now, maly is too slow of a win condition against all the pirate warriors.
Well, just now I'm doing quests on casual. And enemy rogue did coin+coin+6/6 edwin on t1, and coldblood on t2... That was miracle :D