Like.. Seriously. Look at the cards in Miracle Rogue. 10 of them are basic! 17 are from the classic set! Just 3, x2 pillagers and x1 shadow strike are usable cards that haven't been around since release. Like seriously, every other class has had it's time to shine after release, except for Priest (but it was pretty good at one point. Look at Priest, even it has multiple archetypes and it gets good cards. Rogue? Haha, no. We can't give any playable cards to rogue! We screwed up the Stealth mechanic and it's not fun, so let's just screw over Rogue! No more cards for Rogue! Because that's pretty much going on in Ben Brode's head.
Miracle didn't see any groundbreaking new card, but it's always been revamped with tomb pillager, Xaril, etc. You have miracle variations, eg with malygos. It's always fun and fullfilling to play Miracle.
You have many forms of control rogue. Deathrattle rogue with N'zoth. With Yogg and even Medivh variations.
You have Burglar now with Karazhan, which is a bit random maybe, yet crazy fun and competitive to some extent.
You can't expect much more variation from a single class.
Miracle didn't see any groundbreaking new card, but it's always been revamped with tomb pillager, Xaril, etc. You have miracle variations, eg with malygos. It's always fun and fullfilling to play Miracle.
You have many forms of control rogue. Deathrattle rogue with N'zoth. With Yogg and even Medivh variations.
You have Burglar now with Karazhan, which is a bit random maybe, yet crazy fun and competitive to some extent.
You can't expect much more variation from a single class.
1)Only viable deck out there is miracle rogue, any other deck is dead.
2)There is no working control rogue.
3)Burgle rogue is a shitty deck, the deck is weak AND relies on rng, horrid.
4)Warrior&Mage.
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Miracle didn't see any groundbreaking new card, but it's always been revamped with tomb pillager, Xaril, etc. You have miracle variations, eg with malygos. It's always fun and fullfilling to play Miracle.
You have many forms of control rogue. Deathrattle rogue with N'zoth. With Yogg and even Medivh variations.
You have Burglar now with Karazhan, which is a bit random maybe, yet crazy fun and competitive to some extent.
You can't expect much more variation from a single class.
1)Only viable deck out there is miracle rogue, any other deck is dead.
2)There is no working control rogue.
3)Burgle rogue is a shitty deck, the deck is weak AND relies on rng, horrid.
4)Warrior&Mage.
Alright, alright. I'll step out and let you enjoy your salty thread. :D
What are you telling? Rogue has N'Zoth Decks, burgle yogg decks whitch are quiet funny and pretty nice, some kind of hybrid for both as well. You just don't see them when aggro is dominating the meta. And do not ever dare to wish for an aggro rogue deck :<
Rogue got enough tools to do shenanegans with a lot of different decks.
Miracle didn't see any groundbreaking new card, but it's always been revamped with tomb pillager, Xaril, etc. You have miracle variations, eg with malygos. It's always fun and fullfilling to play Miracle.
You have many forms of control rogue. Deathrattle rogue with N'zoth. With Yogg and even Medivh variations.
You have Burglar now with Karazhan, which is a bit random maybe, yet crazy fun and competitive to some extent.
You can't expect much more variation from a single class.
1)Only viable deck out there is miracle rogue, any other deck is dead.
2)There is no working control rogue.
3)Burgle rogue is a shitty deck, the deck is weak AND relies on rng, horrid.
4)Warrior&Mage.
Alright, alright. I'll step out and let you enjoy your salty thread. :D
Its the true. Paladin, Rogue and Priest are in a really bad spot right now.
Miracle didn't see any groundbreaking new card, but it's always been revamped with tomb pillager, Xaril, etc. You have miracle variations, eg with malygos. It's always fun and fullfilling to play Miracle.
You have many forms of control rogue. Deathrattle rogue with N'zoth. With Yogg and even Medivh variations.
You have Burglar now with Karazhan, which is a bit random maybe, yet crazy fun and competitive to some extent.
You can't expect much more variation from a single class.
1)Only viable deck out there is miracle rogue, any other deck is dead.
2)There is no working control rogue.
3)Burgle rogue is a shitty deck, the deck is weak AND relies on rng, horrid.
4)Warrior&Mage.
Alright, alright. I'll step out and let you enjoy your salty thread. :D
Its the true. Paladin, Rogue and Priest are in a really bad spot right now.
In what world is Paladin in a bad spot ight now? It has 2 pretty powerful decks and if Dragon Paladin gets a bit more refined might even have 3.
1- Name only one single card for rogue have the impact of MC, type you see a rogue in a row 3 times or more.
2- Name only one single card without combinations that close, don't need to be equal only close enough, to abomination called CotW.
3- Name only one single mass removal don't need combinations good than Light Bomb or Brawl.
4- Name only one single good weapon for rogue, any weapon class have a least one premium weapon, for rogue, nothing, fucking absolutely nothing, zero, empty, none at all, Blizzard nerf the best card of the class with pathetic excuse that can give good weapons after that, comes WoG and ONIK and nothing.
5- Name only one single good class heal like paladin Ragnaros.
Rogue has N'zoth/Reno + shadowstep (which is broken) while other classes dont.
Try use this in a meta 90% of decks kill you before turn 7, if you don't draw Reno is game over, N'Zoth is a dead and useless card in your hand, maybe this deck have a chance if belcher or healbot still around...
As a Rogue Player, I feel your pain. However -- Miracle Rogue was at one point (IMO), the worst offender of all time for "unbeatable" ladder decks. Even after numerous nerfs, the deck is still playable. Trying to add substantial cards that without pushing rogue into its own class again has to be difficult (look what they did to Shaman).
Meanwhile, cards like Deadly Fork, and Southsea Squidface are vastly underrated right now. I would argue that Rogue actually has some room to be a fair and innovative deck right now. The problem is that certain other decks are "too" dominant, and stifling other classes that have to "play fair".
I'm not rogue player but i understand you. Rogue is worser than priest now. No board clear or no class heal card making it worser. Reno rogue doesn't work from rank 13. N'zoth is just too greedy for meta. Miracle? Me smorc yur face. I still don't understand blade fury nerf. Even before standard rogue was shitty with all naxx and gvg stuff.
Really? I trade all 3 for Priest Of The Feast, with that rogue finally have a decent tool for healing...
And Rogue would also trade every single card in every single set for Flamewaker, but that doesn't mean anything.
Means your claim I replied is false, if you trade all 3 card for 1 from other class and this become an advantage then you don't receive the better ones from the adventure.
Like.. Seriously. Look at the cards in Miracle Rogue. 10 of them are basic! 17 are from the classic set! Just 3, x2 pillagers and x1 shadow strike are usable cards that haven't been around since release. Like seriously, every other class has had it's time to shine after release, except for Priest (but it was pretty good at one point. Look at Priest, even it has multiple archetypes and it gets good cards. Rogue? Haha, no. We can't give any playable cards to rogue! We screwed up the Stealth mechanic and it's not fun, so let's just screw over Rogue! No more cards for Rogue! Because that's pretty much going on in Ben Brode's head.
I disagree.
Miracle didn't see any groundbreaking new card, but it's always been revamped with tomb pillager, Xaril, etc. You have miracle variations, eg with malygos. It's always fun and fullfilling to play Miracle.
You have many forms of control rogue. Deathrattle rogue with N'zoth. With Yogg and even Medivh variations.
You have Burglar now with Karazhan, which is a bit random maybe, yet crazy fun and competitive to some extent.
You can't expect much more variation from a single class.
The 1st step towards a better game is firing Mike Donais! We had enough of his "skillful" balances!
#FireMikeDonais
What are you telling? Rogue has N'Zoth Decks, burgle yogg decks whitch are quiet funny and pretty nice, some kind of hybrid for both as well. You just don't see them when aggro is dominating the meta. And do not ever dare to wish for an aggro rogue deck :<
Rogue got enough tools to do shenanegans with a lot of different decks.
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Yeah that was Ben Brode. The guy responsible for every single HS card since 2013. What a f*ing rogue hater he is..
All people disagree with this topic please:
1- Name only one single card for rogue have the impact of MC, type you see a rogue in a row 3 times or more.
2- Name only one single card without combinations that close, don't need to be equal only close enough, to abomination called CotW.
3- Name only one single mass removal don't need combinations good than Light Bomb or Brawl.
4- Name only one single good weapon for rogue, any weapon class have a least one premium weapon, for rogue, nothing, fucking absolutely nothing, zero, empty, none at all, Blizzard nerf the best card of the class with pathetic excuse that can give good weapons after that, comes WoG and ONIK and nothing.
5- Name only one single good class heal like paladin Ragnaros.
Rogue has N'zoth/Reno + shadowstep (which is broken) while other classes dont.
The true is rogue is the most screwed class in this game in all expansions/adventures so far.
Rogue got the best cards in the entire Karazhan set.
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My mandibles which are capable of pressing down and tearing, my talons which are known to intercept and hold.
As a Rogue Player, I feel your pain. However -- Miracle Rogue was at one point (IMO), the worst offender of all time for "unbeatable" ladder decks. Even after numerous nerfs, the deck is still playable. Trying to add substantial cards that without pushing rogue into its own class again has to be difficult (look what they did to Shaman).
Meanwhile, cards like Deadly Fork, and Southsea Squidface are vastly underrated right now. I would argue that Rogue actually has some room to be a fair and innovative deck right now. The problem is that certain other decks are "too" dominant, and stifling other classes that have to "play fair".
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My mandibles which are capable of pressing down and tearing, my talons which are known to intercept and hold.
I'm not rogue player but i understand you. Rogue is worser than priest now. No board clear or no class heal card making it worser. Reno rogue doesn't work from rank 13. N'zoth is just too greedy for meta. Miracle? Me smorc yur face. I still don't understand blade fury nerf. Even before standard rogue was shitty with all naxx and gvg stuff.
The man who got 4 The Boogeymonster from packs and thinks about playing Yogg-Saron, Hope's End decks.
Give me basic/classic miracle rogue + flame walker, and I'll show you a Legend 1 list... GGez