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I came back after a few months of not playing to be greeted by the same secret paladins and some new aggro shamans, so when I queued against a priest I was happy. That lasted until entomb. What a retarded concept. Your opponent just taking your card and putting it in his deck is terrible game design, regardless of balance. I'm trying to imagine this happening in a match with physical cards, and some guy just taking some other guy's $1000 card and throwing it in his own deck. That shit would literally cause fights.

 

Good thing this isn't a physical card game, huh...

Control is just too strong right now... There isn't such a thing as trading for minion with this deck.... Granted I'm not a phenomenal player I still can see that.. Entomb is more than just control.. You are literally taking another classes win condition and use it as your own... As if you didn't already have a win condition.. This recent expansion has given so much to priest.. Museum curators? Entomb? Elise starseeker? I mean I may be wrong about its unstoppability... If so someone please help me cause I can't get anywhere in my ranked with these priests 

If that were true, I'd win every game...

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Control is just too strong right now... There isn't such a thing as trading for minion with this deck.... Granted I'm not a phenomenal player I still can see that.. Entomb is more than just control.. You are literally taking another classes win condition and use it as your own... As if you didn't already have a win condition.. This recent expansion has given so much to priest.. Museum curators? Entomb? Elise starseeker? I mean I may be wrong about its unstoppability... If so someone please help me cause I can't get anywhere in my ranked with these priests 

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It should also work on jaraxxus,you steal your opponent face and auto win #justrafaam&vaticanthings 

That card is pure bullshit,what makes a big threats in your deck a fuckin garbage what is ridicoulous for me,Lightbomb,SW:D are strong,but ok,this thing....

The only reason is not horribly OP is that,a priest itself is a litte shitty class what dont have Tier 1 deck.

 

Entomb is an OK card, any nerf and it would be useless AF. Who uses 6 mana druid card "Recycle" ? I dont play priest because I dont have lightbombs but I dont find it difficult to beat them. If you have board control it doesnt matter if they entomb tirion or dr.7 you still beat them. If you dont have board control and pray for tirion or dr7 or grommash  to save you then you're finished already. 

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Entombing Tirion Fordring is the best! I wouldn't change that for anything else! Opponent concedes at full health :'D

played against a priest with my secret paly .
he Mind Visioned my tirion .
(i cant remember how ...)he duplicate it in his hand .
he played both of them .
i removed both of them and grounded him to zero health without playing my own tirion :)
so..

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Entombing Tirion Fordring is the best! I wouldn't change that for anything else! Opponent concedes at full health :'D

played against a priest with my secret paly .
he Mind Visioned my tirion .
(i cant remember how ...)he duplicate it in his hand .
he played both of them .
i removed both of them and grounded him to zero health without playing my own tirion :)
so..

 So? Well done! (he must have duplicated him with Museum Curator)

My biggest grief against this card is how direly Rogue would need removal to finally be control-viable, and how well it would have suited them thematically ( I mean, bouncing basically is a rogue keyword - Sap, Kidnapper, Vanish, and putting things in decks also is with Gang Up and Ambush), but it went to priest instead ( Who seriously didn't need removal ; SWs on top of all the stealing effect was already more than most classes can do ), and is the most massive counter to their control deck's win condition in a control mirror, Anub'Arak, not only denying it as any silence or polymorph would do, but also turning it against you so that this fatigue war death-star actually kills YOU instead of your opponent.

If Blizzard ever said "F*ck you, rogues" it was at the moment this card was given to priest.

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My biggest grief against this card is how direly Rogue would need removal to finally be control-viable, and how well it would have suited them thematically ( I mean, bouncing basically is a rogue keyword - Sap, Kidnapper, Vanish, and putting things in decks also is with Gang Up and Ambush), but it went to priest instead ( Who seriously didn't need removal ; SWs on top of all the stealing effect was already more than most classes can do ), and is the most massive counter to their control deck's win condition in a control mirror, Anub'Arak, not only denying it as any silence or polymorph would do, but also turning it against you so that this fatigue war death-star actually kills YOU instead of your opponent.

If Blizzard ever said "F*ck you, rogues" it was at the moment this card was given to priest.

So it wasn't Museum Curator, because Priest using it can't pull off paladin cards...however I don't know anymore who are you replying to.

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My biggest grief against this card is how direly Rogue would need removal to finally be control-viable, and how well it would have suited them thematically ( I mean, bouncing basically is a rogue keyword - Sap, Kidnapper, Vanish, and putting things in decks also is with Gang Up and Ambush), but it went to priest instead ( Who seriously didn't need removal ; SWs on top of all the stealing effect was already more than most classes can do ), and is the most massive counter to their control deck's win condition in a control mirror, Anub'Arak, not only denying it as any silence or polymorph would do, but also turning it against you so that this fatigue war death-star actually kills YOU instead of your opponent.

If Blizzard ever said "F*ck you, rogues" it was at the moment this card was given to priest.

 This. Way to screw Rogues over yet again, Blizzard. As i Priests didn't have enough removal or card steals...

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Entombing Tirion Fordring is the best! I wouldn't change that for anything else! Opponent concedes at full health :'D

played against a priest with my secret paly .
he Mind Visioned my tirion .
(i cant remember how ...)he duplicate it in his hand .
he played both of them .
i removed both of them and grounded him to zero health without playing my own tirion :)
so..

 So? Well done! (he must have duplicated him with Museum Curator)

 

 Isn't discover effect class-restricted? I think he rather pulled it earlier with Thoughtsteal

Back on topic then.  As much as I might respect or not general Noxious' opinions, I have to agree that Entomb is really a control meta blocker. Indeed this card has close to none value vs aggro decks(that's why so many bots don't see further issue), good vs midrange decks, but vs control matchup it's very strong. Not only it removes threat in a manner close to Polymorph(even without leaving 1/1 body on board) but it also expands your deck by 1 card, which in case of fatigue war might be a deciding factor. Anyway, it's just sad to look at Recycle and compare it with this card, which is doing everything better for the same cost.

If it would ever get a nerf, I suppose it could cost 7 mana. It would still be great vs Control Matchup, still terrible vs aggro matchup, would be definitely worse vs midrange and bots/people playing most popular classes would be less salty about their Savannah Highmane and Mysterious Challenger taken on Turn 6.

Anyway guys, even slightlest nerfs won't happen.

It's adventure card, so they've got no way of offering refund, so quoting Ben Brode in future: "Players will feel tricked, because they paid gold/money to get this specific card and we're simply taking it back without giving them something in return"

Simply put, blizzard tied its own hands with adventure card distribution design.

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Anyway guys, even slightlest nerfs won't happen.

It's adventure card, so they've got no way of offering refund, so quoting Ben Brode in future: "Players will feel tricked, because they paid gold/money to get this specific card and we're simply taking it back without giving them something in return"

Simply put, blizzard tied its own hands with adventure card distribution design.

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Quote from Mefisio >>

Anyway guys, even slightlest nerfs won't happen.

It's adventure card, so they've got no way of offering refund, so quoting Ben Brode in future: "Players will feel tricked, because they paid gold/money to get this specific card and we're simply taking it back without giving them something in return"

Simply put, blizzard tied its own hands with adventure card distribution design.

 Oh then I guess Undertaker wasn't nerfed.

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Quote from Mefisio >>

Anyway guys, even slightlest nerfs won't happen.

It's adventure card, so they've got no way of offering refund, so quoting Ben Brode in future: "Players will feel tricked, because they paid gold/money to get this specific card and we're simply taking it back without giving them something in return"

Simply put, blizzard tied its own hands with adventure card distribution design.

 Oh then I guess Undertaker wasn't nerfed.

 Undertaker was nerfed before he made the statement. Also that was because undertaker was INCREDIBLY broken, far more than entomb was ever. Even with entomb priest does not have an insane winrate and entomb does not by far made you automtically win the game unlike undertaker. Having a 5/6 on turn 3  as a hunter was abnormally broken. Sadly Blizz nerfed it too much (should simply start as a 0/1), but still; i don't see entomb being nerfed ever. It's a fair balanced card and superslow.

That's because undertaker was used on top of already T1 decks. Entomb isn't, YET. Now priests can't get anything good because if they get better it'll be completely broken. Such an amazing design space.

Also if Entomb is fair so was Undertaker. A priest who entombs an Ysera, Anub'Arak or Tirion will almost surely win the lategame because they both negated an enemy win condition and acquired one. In both cases drawing that card at the right moment is a sure win, even less in Undertaker's case because you could just silence it, whereas you will never get your card back with Entomb, and Undertaker needed to make your deck around it, Entomb just is yet another removal.

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That's because undertaker was used on top of already T1 decks. Entomb isn't, YET. Now priests can't get anything good because if they get better it'll be completely broken. Such an amazing design space.

Also if Entomb is fair so was Undertaker. A priest who entombs an Ysera, Anub'Arak or Tirion will almost surely win the lategame because they both negated an enemy win condition and acquired one. In both cases drawing that card at the right moment is a sure win, even less in Undertaker's case because you could just silence it, whereas you will never get your card back with Entomb, and Undertaker needed to make your deck around it, Entomb just is yet another removal.