I have lost like 10 straight games with it. Its garbage. Auto lose to all of the cut/paste decks right away. Loses to everything, actually. Whats the reason this deck is so hated???
Because when it comes to minions, the word "mana" is basically ignored. The only mana you spend is the spells you cast to summon 2/5's that auto-kill shit when they die, or huge 8/8 value minions over and over again for as little as 2 mana. It's disgusting and mana cheating of THAT magnitude shouldn't be allowed to be a thing.
just because turbo rush or otk beats it, it doesn't mean it is fun to play against. It's boring, if anything. Vomit endless waves of sticky minions, all games play the same, not much decision making.
Because people don't hate decks for being good, nor should they. Patron Warrior and Miracle Rogue got very little hate for how good they were, and Quest Rogue got nerfed while it had negative wr.
Because killing the same minions 10 times in a game as they are getting repeatedly ressed is not fun. Also the fact that it hard counters almost any non aggro/otk deck.
There is a reason why some time ago, bots were playing Big Priest and Pirate Warrior. Because the decks play themselves. There is no thought process involved.
The bots only switched to Odd Warrior recently because longer dragged-out games give more exp under the new reward system.
All previously mentioned. If the game's strategy is "kill priest before it has minions" then it is bad.
I must admit I used to play control decks in wild and outlasting big priests was one of the greatest things ever. However, it is a deeply random, non-interactive, stupidly annoying, boring to play against deck.
Works alright vs minion based slower decks but yeah loses to most quick decks/tier 1. Still annoying as hell to play against though, really fucks up the meta and makes it so midrange isn't viable in wild. If you don't kill big by turn 5 or 6 then you're fucked unless you are combo or a control deck
I haven't played it the last 2 weeks or so, but before that, the deck was still very powerful.
-The deck is very easy to play, probably the easiest in the Wild meta. All you have to do is to get to play Shadow Essence and have a big taunt die. There are a few considerations with how to pace your removal and AOE, but the games are usually decided by the matchup and draws alone.
-The maximum minion value of the deck is absolutely insane. I have played BP mirrors where we probably created 1000 mana worth of minions each, but only running 5-7 actual minions in the deck. Should that be possible?
-Being punished for clearing a big, manacheated taunt is not fun.
-The mentioned problem that they absolutely destroy any midrange strategy. Some control decks have a chance, but they need transform effects or other ways to mess up the res pool, or they are toast. I played a game vs. a handbuff taunt warrior who thought he could outvalue BP with big buffed minions, but it was just comical.
-It is very polarizing. It loses hard to combo decks and Mill rogue, absolutely destroys midrange decks, and the aggro matchups are coin-flippy and non interactive.
Yeah, it makes no sense. The deck is super easy to play, you often just need to play Shadow Essence to win, and many opponents just concede when you do.
There is a reason why some time ago, bots were playing Big Priest and Pirate Warrior. Because the decks play themselves. There is no thought process involved.
The bots only switched to Odd Warrior recently because longer dragged-out games give more exp under the new reward system.
i know its not. I misread the thread and thought it was about control priest in standard.
regarding big priest in wild ive seen not too long ago Dane played with a big priest deck with his monitor turned off just to prove the deck is auto pilot and he won with it
I have lost like 10 straight games with it. Its garbage. Auto lose to all of the cut/paste decks right away. Loses to everything, actually. Whats the reason this deck is so hated???
Because when it comes to minions, the word "mana" is basically ignored. The only mana you spend is the spells you cast to summon 2/5's that auto-kill shit when they die, or huge 8/8 value minions over and over again for as little as 2 mana. It's disgusting and mana cheating of THAT magnitude shouldn't be allowed to be a thing.
just because turbo rush or otk beats it, it doesn't mean it is fun to play against. It's boring, if anything. Vomit endless waves of sticky minions, all games play the same, not much decision making.
its hard to pilot
just really uninteractive to play against thats all
but yea its definitely not that good anymore
Because people don't hate decks for being good, nor should they. Patron Warrior and Miracle Rogue got very little hate for how good they were, and Quest Rogue got nerfed while it had negative wr.
Because killing the same minions 10 times in a game as they are getting repeatedly ressed is not fun. Also the fact that it hard counters almost any non aggro/otk deck.
No, it's not.
There is a reason why some time ago, bots were playing Big Priest and Pirate Warrior. Because the decks play themselves. There is no thought process involved.
The bots only switched to Odd Warrior recently because longer dragged-out games give more exp under the new reward system.
All previously mentioned. If the game's strategy is "kill priest before it has minions" then it is bad.
I must admit I used to play control decks in wild and outlasting big priests was one of the greatest things ever. However, it is a deeply random, non-interactive, stupidly annoying, boring to play against deck.
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Works alright vs minion based slower decks but yeah loses to most quick decks/tier 1. Still annoying as hell to play against though, really fucks up the meta and makes it so midrange isn't viable in wild. If you don't kill big by turn 5 or 6 then you're fucked unless you are combo or a control deck
I haven't played it the last 2 weeks or so, but before that, the deck was still very powerful.
-The deck is very easy to play, probably the easiest in the Wild meta. All you have to do is to get to play Shadow Essence and have a big taunt die. There are a few considerations with how to pace your removal and AOE, but the games are usually decided by the matchup and draws alone.
-The maximum minion value of the deck is absolutely insane. I have played BP mirrors where we probably created 1000 mana worth of minions each, but only running 5-7 actual minions in the deck. Should that be possible?
-Being punished for clearing a big, manacheated taunt is not fun.
-The mentioned problem that they absolutely destroy any midrange strategy. Some control decks have a chance, but they need transform effects or other ways to mess up the res pool, or they are toast. I played a game vs. a handbuff taunt warrior who thought he could outvalue BP with big buffed minions, but it was just comical.
-It is very polarizing. It loses hard to combo decks and Mill rogue, absolutely destroys midrange decks, and the aggro matchups are coin-flippy and non interactive.
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Big Priest is really boring to play against.
Everything besides paladin is terrible atm.
are you sure about this statement? mayby look at this video of Dane, who pilotted this deck blindfolded and won against Shaman.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWr32QA-xT0&t=186s
Yeah, it makes no sense. The deck is super easy to play, you often just need to play Shadow Essence to win, and many opponents just concede when you do.
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It was very popular and hated before Barnes nerf (from 4 to 5 mana).
The game was decided on turn by high-roll of barnes into Y'Shaarj, Rage Unbound
after nerf it lost the popularity (and hate)
well rn is not a problem, the real one is APM Mage
It was way more hated when it was a top tier deck. But a hated deck wont suddenly become loved just because new decks outclasses it
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i know its not. I misread the thread and thought it was about control priest in standard.
regarding big priest in wild ive seen not too long ago Dane played with a big priest deck with his monitor turned off just to prove the deck is auto pilot and he won with it
yep i just misread it, thought it was about control priest in standard