The deck below is to win the late game with a combination of Spiteful Summoner; Lady in White and cheating out deathrattle minions with Coffin Crasher, which has some big (late game) potential. Read below the deck for additional information.
I wanted to incorporate both Lady in White and Prince Keleseth. The latter is also in my current spiteful priest build. When Prince Keleseth works the additional stats are quite nice and other 2 drops (so far) in the Witchwood expension are not that impactful. Furthermore this deck contains some nice synergies between Lady in White, Coffin Crasher and Countess Ashmore.
I am aware that this deck is very top heavy so if the meta becomes too agro heavy it will probably not stand a chance (only 2 board clear possibilities with Duskbreaker) , although I tried to compensate with enough taunts. It would be great to have an additional 1 drop available (preferably a dragon) in one of the coming releases to replace Goldshire Footman (I had chosen him because it prevents people to go face, also in the later game, although fire fly might be a better option for the early board).
I know that Lady in White has some (small) downside with both duskbreaker and bone drake (both becoming an 5/5). However all taunt minions and ysera gain a relative big boost from her, the taunts become 2/2's ; 4/4's ; 5/5's or 6/6's and both primordial drake and obsidian statue gain 4 attack, while Ysera potentially even gains 8. Ofcourse that's best case scenario, but if it's possible to have enough health than when you start pumping out bigger units that would be great.
I am aware (and a bit concerned) that I don't have any 5 drops. I have thought about either Muck Hunter (additional synergy with Countess Ashmore) or Rotten Applebaum. The later also heals and has synergy with Coffin Crasher. Whatever works best I don't know yet.
Let me know what you would see as downfalls/benefits of the deck and what you would do differently (with the cards revealed so far).
EDIT: As many have noticed (and I agree) the deck is most likely too focussed on too many archetypes. I'll probably use a spiteful deck with dragons and a separate deck for lady in white (also with dragons, focused on healing). The spiteful deck with dragons will most likely be very similar to the deck Bullseye posted #15 so I will not copy that from him in here.
oh ok, im not a big deck builder but some more mid/early game should be good. also 12x +6 mana cards (without spells) are just to many. cut the prince. even with prince on turn 1/2 it has little inpact on your deck for the mid and early game, just beacouse of low minion count on 1 to 4 mana. maybe Fire Fly [/card](like you mentioned), [card]Doomsayer, Plated Beetle for more defense or Shadow Ascendant for pressure.
6 dragons is pretty low to hit the synergy, maybe you put also Nightmare Amalgam in?
i dont know but atm i can not see a synergy for dragon, innerfire spiteful priest. you should focus und 2 arctypes. maybe dragon and spiteful.
Yeah I'm also concerned about the early game. I think you have a fair point with regards to cutting prince. Especially when the rest of the deck is more leaning toward Lady in White. Because I put the prince in I didn't even think about Doomsayer but that would most likely be a great asset in this deck.
The 6 dragons (for duksbreaker synergy) are indeed a bit low. At the moment I run 8 dragons in my Spiteful priest and that typically hits the spot. I would however rather have another dragon as Nightmare Amalgam available because it doesn't really do anything. This is the reason I added Bone Drake because after playing him you will get another dragon to trigger off. Ofcourse if you can play bone drake you might not need the duskbreaker aoe anymore. I'll see if I can optimize the list a bit without Keleseth.
EDIT: Changed the deck to this. Didn't go for plated beatle because it has some anti-synergy with Coffin crasher. To solve the dragon issue added the 2 mana dragon which should fit in nicely. I know it's still a lot high level cost cards, but with Coffin Crasher/Spiteful Summoner the idea is to cheat something big out (similar to what Warlock does with Voidlords).
The biggest issue is that you are mixing way too many archetypes into one deck, which makes it inefficient and greedy. Combining Prince Keleseth, Lady in White synergy, Dragon Synergy, deathrattle synergy, AND Spiteful Summoner all together is messy. Keleseth limits 2 cost cards, Spiteful limits your board clears and low cost spells, dragon synergy just means you'll need enough in your deck, etc.
You should just pick a couple and work with that instead of trying to put everything together. Specifically, I would probably drop Spiteful Summoner since you already have so many late game minions already, and the early game spells and board clears would help a lot to get there.
But if you really want to make a Spiteful deck, I would make sure your board clears are more consistent, possibly adding more dragons. Also, Chameleos doesn't really fit anywhere in this deck so it is kind of unecessary. I would probably also drop Prince Keleseth.
EDIT After seeing your other deck where you dropped Keleseth and added more dragons: it is better. Still a bit top-heavy and messy, but the Doomsayers help. I would still drop Chameleos for something else. Countess Ashmore is also iffy since it costs so much, but I guess it can get you 2 card draw.
This is my take on Spiteful Priest. I think it will look really close to this list with maybe 1 or 2 small differences. Any comments or suggestions would greatly be appreciated :)
All in all I guess you guys are right and too much focus on different archetypes. I'll probably go for 2 different decks, one that's similar to the one from bullseye above (thanks for that 😄) and another deck directed toward lady in white/countess ashmore with deathrattle and some rush minions (getting rid of dragons and spitefull). I'll than see what deck performs better
This is my take on Spiteful Priest. I think it will look really close to this list with maybe 1 or 2 small differences. Any comments or suggestions would greatly be appreciated :)
This look way better than Cleef's version. That said I think Chameleos is a bad card I wouldn't play it. I'm not too sure about Fungalmencer too, it doesn't seem like you have enough small minions to make it work but maybe it's good enough.
Keleseth feels right because two-drops are really bad with the lose of Netherspite ; Shadow Ascendant feels weaker too without the fear of Kabal Talonpriest on the following turn for your opponent.
Seems indeed like what the deck will look like with the information we have for now. I'd really love two one-drops instead of Chameleos and x1fungalmencer though.
This is my take on Spiteful Priest. I think it will look really close to this list with maybe 1 or 2 small differences. Any comments or suggestions would greatly be appreciated :)
This look way better than Cleef's version. That said I think Chameleos is a bad card I wouldn't play it. I'm not too sure about Fungalmencer too, it doesn't seem like you have enough small minions to make it work but maybe it's good enough.
Keleseth feels right because two-drops are really bad with the lose of Netherspite ; Shadow Ascendant feels weaker too without the fear of Kabal Talonpriest on the following turn for your opponent.
Seems indeed like what the deck will look like with the information we have for now. I'd really love two one-drops instead of Chameleos and x1fungalmencer though.
Yeah I agree on this deck being better than mine (also mentioned it a couple posts back) I think I will add at least 1x cabal shadow priest and because i don't have the lich king or grand archivest so I'll probably add 2 of them (depends a bit on the meta, might add one and ysera).
I also feel your comment about fungalmancer is correct at least on your early turns. Maybe cut one for another dragon for the synergy?
I think 8 dragons is more than enough you don't need more. @Cleef
And to Cleef and Thrawn, I think Coffin Crasher is bad and inconsistant. It forces you to play Obsidian which is too heavy in my opinion with already 2 spiteful 2 FFA and 2 MC. Scaleworm seems way better for the deck.
I think 8 dragons is more than enough you don't need more. @Cleef
I agree 8 is enough, but when I would need to substitute with something I might consider a dragon just a little above something else (except if something else is just better ofc)
And to Cleef and Thrawn, I think Coffin Crasher is bad and inconsistant. It forces you to play Obsidian which is too heavy in my opinion with already 2 spiteful 2 FFA and 2 MC. Scaleworm seems way better for the deck.
Yeah it probably doesn't work for this deck, even with bone drake in there as well. Too many dependensies probably. I will try to put coffin crasher in a dedicated lady in white deck with countess and some rush. (Without spiteful and dragons) and see how it goes
I'm just going to repeat what I said there: I think packing Spiteful, Keleseth and LIW in one deck is simply too greedy, you end up with a weak early game (no 2-drops) coupled with a bunch of big spells that make it even worse, and you could end up picking up subpar minions trying to maximise LIW value... it's just a bad idea vs. aggro and midrange, and with all of the new Rush minions I expect there will be more than a few of those around soon.
I think a defensive game plan (Taunts, the Quest, Deathrattles) coupled with the Lady and a few good minions that are really suited to her Witchwood Grizzly, Mossy Horror, Primordial Drake but also provice value unbuffed, is the most promising course.
I'm going into the game with this deck and see how far it takes me. I'm not a 100% sure the dragon package is a good idea yet, it is there mainly for the Duskbreakers. I might decide to opt for some other removal route, like Auchenai Soulpriest and Circle of Healing combo.
EDIT: Read below the original post for the edit
The deck below is to win the late game with a combination of Spiteful Summoner; Lady in White and cheating out deathrattle minions with Coffin Crasher, which has some big (late game) potential. Read below the deck for additional information.
I wanted to incorporate both Lady in White and Prince Keleseth. The latter is also in my current spiteful priest build. When Prince Keleseth works the additional stats are quite nice and other 2 drops (so far) in the Witchwood expension are not that impactful. Furthermore this deck contains some nice synergies between Lady in White, Coffin Crasher and Countess Ashmore.
I am aware that this deck is very top heavy so if the meta becomes too agro heavy it will probably not stand a chance (only 2 board clear possibilities with Duskbreaker) , although I tried to compensate with enough taunts. It would be great to have an additional 1 drop available (preferably a dragon) in one of the coming releases to replace Goldshire Footman (I had chosen him because it prevents people to go face, also in the later game, although fire fly might be a better option for the early board).
I know that Lady in White has some (small) downside with both duskbreaker and bone drake (both becoming an 5/5). However all taunt minions and ysera gain a relative big boost from her, the taunts become 2/2's ; 4/4's ; 5/5's or 6/6's and both primordial drake and obsidian statue gain 4 attack, while Ysera potentially even gains 8. Ofcourse that's best case scenario, but if it's possible to have enough health than when you start pumping out bigger units that would be great.
I am aware (and a bit concerned) that I don't have any 5 drops. I have thought about either Muck Hunter (additional synergy with Countess Ashmore) or Rotten Applebaum. The later also heals and has synergy with Coffin Crasher. Whatever works best I don't know yet.
Let me know what you would see as downfalls/benefits of the deck and what you would do differently (with the cards revealed so far).
EDIT: As many have noticed (and I agree) the deck is most likely too focussed on too many archetypes. I'll probably use a spiteful deck with dragons and a separate deck for lady in white (also with dragons, focused on healing). The spiteful deck with dragons will most likely be very similar to the deck Bullseye posted #15 so I will not copy that from him in here.
Good luck putting Deathwing, Dragonlord or Kabal Songstealer in this deck @Shield Bearer.
Dude..... dragonlord is rotating out
Goldshire meta inc! Its there for those pitty concedes from your opponent, right?:)
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The biggest issue is that you are mixing way too many archetypes into one deck, which makes it inefficient and greedy. Combining Prince Keleseth, Lady in White synergy, Dragon Synergy, deathrattle synergy, AND Spiteful Summoner all together is messy. Keleseth limits 2 cost cards, Spiteful limits your board clears and low cost spells, dragon synergy just means you'll need enough in your deck, etc.
You should just pick a couple and work with that instead of trying to put everything together. Specifically, I would probably drop Spiteful Summoner since you already have so many late game minions already, and the early game spells and board clears would help a lot to get there.
But if you really want to make a Spiteful deck, I would make sure your board clears are more consistent, possibly adding more dragons. Also, Chameleos doesn't really fit anywhere in this deck so it is kind of unecessary. I would probably also drop Prince Keleseth.
EDIT After seeing your other deck where you dropped Keleseth and added more dragons: it is better. Still a bit top-heavy and messy, but the Doomsayers help. I would still drop Chameleos for something else. Countess Ashmore is also iffy since it costs so much, but I guess it can get you 2 card draw.
This is my take on Spiteful Priest. I think it will look really close to this list with maybe 1 or 2 small differences. Any comments or suggestions would greatly be appreciated :)
" if the meta becomes too agro heavy..."
When, not if. Use 2x stonehill defenders.
Use Prince to buff statues, primordials, ysera and spitefuls into Shadow word Death and DK Anduin removal range. Sounds legit...
Duskbreaker isn't reliable enough with so few dragons.
All in all I guess you guys are right and too much focus on different archetypes. I'll probably go for 2 different decks, one that's similar to the one from bullseye above (thanks for that 😄) and another deck directed toward lady in white/countess ashmore with deathrattle and some rush minions (getting rid of dragons and spitefull). I'll than see what deck performs better
Too greedy, and you really need Piper to draw chameleos or keleseth.
I think 8 dragons is more than enough you don't need more. @Cleef
And to Cleef and Thrawn, I think Coffin Crasher is bad and inconsistant. It forces you to play Obsidian which is too heavy in my opinion with already 2 spiteful 2 FFA and 2 MC. Scaleworm seems way better for the deck.
We already had a discussion about Lady in White, Keleseth and the Spiteful package combined in one deck here, so might be worth reading:
https://www.hearthpwn.com/forums/class-discussion/priest/214476-lady-in-white-keleseth-priest
I'm just going to repeat what I said there: I think packing Spiteful, Keleseth and LIW in one deck is simply too greedy, you end up with a weak early game (no 2-drops) coupled with a bunch of big spells that make it even worse, and you could end up picking up subpar minions trying to maximise LIW value... it's just a bad idea vs. aggro and midrange, and with all of the new Rush minions I expect there will be more than a few of those around soon.
I think a defensive game plan (Taunts, the Quest, Deathrattles) coupled with the Lady and a few good minions that are really suited to her Witchwood Grizzly, Mossy Horror, Primordial Drake but also provice value unbuffed, is the most promising course.
I'm going into the game with this deck and see how far it takes me. I'm not a 100% sure the dragon package is a good idea yet, it is there mainly for the Duskbreakers. I might decide to opt for some other removal route, like Auchenai Soulpriest and Circle of Healing combo.
Goldshire footman, i lost hope to this deck.