Were you boicoting Warrior during the Pirate Warrior meta's day (MSoG)? Or Midrange Shaman? You may not like the actual meta, but the cycle of some Classes be more dominant than others is just natural in HS.
It's not just natural in Hearthstone... it's universal to all CCGs and basically all competitive gaming in general. Perfect balance is impossible, so this always happens to one extent or another. A lot of people act like this is a problem specifically with how Hearthstone is run, but it's actually a universal problem, and one without a perfect solution. Perfect game balance is impossible unless every character/deck is exactly the same.
The only way to mitigate it is to make frequent and/or careful adjustments. That's the only argument you can make against Hearthstone specifically, but it's also not so cut and dried what cards are causing the problem as a lot of the critics want to pretend it is.
I have to disagree. Hearthstone seems to be built on having a lot of crazy effects, things that are random or unpredictable and stacking effects/combos that are insanely powerful.
Other games don't have anywhere near this level of off-the-wall and over the top possibilities. It's what makes Hearthstone compelling but also makes it frustrating.
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If your goal is to push Priest to a false winrate by getting a large number of players to automatically concede, in hopes that Blizzard nerfs the entire class because the winrate is too high, that's not really how Blizzard goes about nerfing. For one, they don't nerf an entire class; they nerf specific problem cards. For two, they don't nerf because a class has a high winrate over a small sample; they nerf because specific cards are deemed too strong, given the data available.
If you want to talk about the potential for Priest nerfs, you need to address specific cards and why you think they're a good target for a nerf.
I know. Just salty.
Really if I were going to need one card it would be raza. The free hero power should only be available while raza is in play.
I would also nerf resurrection cards to have a cap of 1 resurrection pet card in the deck. So if you have one obsidian destroyer you can res him once, not six times.
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I'm sick and tired of all these whimps crying over priest being OP. Come on priest isn't even close to be as cancerous as old patron warrior, pirate warrior, face hunter or old midrange shaman. Priest is my favorite class and I enjoy playing it on my terms, not the big priest or going machinegun face. I don't want the class to get nerfed!
I don't think this will solve anything. I for one have just stopped playing Ladder. I've only played Dungeon Run since release. I get to rank 20 and I'm done. I only rarely ever go on Ladder to play my Big Mage deck.
I dislike what priest has become recently as well but the way you're presenting this is just silly. Phrases like "The ladder system is built to be intentionally frustrating", "In this meta it is insanely difficult to ladder anyway" and "decks that automatically win against everyone [like] priest" makes it sound like you're either trolling or being a drama king
Meanwhile, I highly doubt blizzard cares about people randomly conceding at rank 15 and it won't have enough of an impact on the ladder. Free wins at ranks where you can still get winstreaks just don't matter if you're trying to reach legend; most of the grinding happens after the rank 5 breakpoint. If anything, this kind of behavior rewards people for playing priest at your rank and incentives them to keep using it
Were you boicoting Warrior during the Pirate Warrior meta's day (MSoG)? Or Midrange Shaman? You may not like the actual meta, but the cycle of some Classes be more dominant than others is just natural in HS.
neither of those were ever as dominant as priest is right now.
LOL, just LOL
You either only started playing 3-4 months ago or you are trolling....
Sorry you dislike priest so much but really it just sounds like you are on tilt because other decks get to their win condition faster than yours and instead of changing tactics, you just want to give up while crying foul.
Personally I never concede until I see a checkmate happening because even if my deck is not favored in a match-up it does not mean that it is impossible to win.
If your goal is to push Priest to a false winrate by getting a large number of players to automatically concede, in hopes that Blizzard nerfs the entire class because the winrate is too high, that's not really how Blizzard goes about nerfing. For one, they don't nerf an entire class; they nerf specific problem cards. For two, they don't nerf because a class has a high winrate over a small sample; they nerf because specific cards are deemed too strong, given the data available.
If you want to talk about the potential for Priest nerfs, you need to address specific cards and why you think they're a good target for a nerf.
I know. Just salty.
Then post in the correct thread for it. Can we get a lock or merge for this thread?
No way to autoconcede. I also hate priest decks, and dusted all priest cards more than year and half ago (since they started to play that gay lightbomb deck), and I have all heroes golden except priest.
I know that for the last seasons priest is awfull and frustrating oponent, but anyway I play against. Because I'm climbing the ladder and actually I never had 0% winrate against them. I just feel calm when I loose to them, because I know that they are cancer and just have more chance to win by current design than me, this is not skill matter, that is current game design. Anyway last season I got legend with rogue, and priests matches were not so bad overall (something like 12 wins 13 looses on rank5-legend). And current season with my nzoth-control lock I'm not loosing all priest matches and have something like 40-45% winrate, but after loose to priest I'm winning 2 mirrors and 1 aggro deck, so now I'm already on rank1 with just few hours of play daily.
And you know, when you win everybody else, but loose to priests, that occasional wins of priest deck are especially delightful :)
You want to boycott the game in part, or basically shoot yourself in the foot because Priest is dominant? Knock yourself out. But don't expect most of us to follow suit. Every single expansion sees one or two classes rise a good deal more than the rest. KFT made Priests and Warlocks into damned juggernauts. MSoG made Shaman downright busted at times. I honestly can't remember what made me so nuts during WotOG, but I remember there was something. Playing against Paladins made me want to eat glass during TGT until I finally joined them. Huntertaker.. and so on.
Honestly, if you really feel this way about the meta right now, rather than complaining I would suggest teching. If you "know" that your opponent will be a control Priest 60% of the time, tech the cards to whip their asses. Play the archetype that can rush them down or continuously apply pressure after those board clears get used. Raza on 5 and Anduin on 8 doesn't mean a damned thing if they're dead on 7.
Is the answer that easy? Of course not. Is any answer better than giving up? Damned right it is.
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I also HATE playing against Priests but your idea is dumb. They aren't even as frequent in numbers as you think. My last 50 games for example (I know small portion size but just using as an example) I only had 5 Priests. This meta right now is flooded with Huntards and Mages not Priests. Also I don't/won't auto conceed. Even if the deck/class is broken/OP I'm going to make them EARN their win.
Screw boycotting priests. It's Warlock who is currently the biggest cancer ruining this game. At least you had half a chance against most priests if they draw badly. Warlocks don't care what they draw. They have all the draw in the world they need and better healing than Priests. I mean, WTF? How is THAT a thing?
The only deck that I have that beats it consistently seems to be Mill Rogue - which is really boring to play, tbh.
Screw boycotting priests. It's Warlock who is currently the biggest cancer ruining this game. At least you had half a chance against most priests if they draw badly. Warlocks don't care what they draw. They have all the draw in the world they need and better healing than Priests. I mean, WTF? How is THAT a thing?
The only deck that I have that beats it consistently seems to be Mill Rogue - which is really boring to play, tbh.
Screw boycotting priests. It's Warlock who is currently the biggest cancer ruining this game. At least you had half a chance against most priests if they draw badly. Warlocks don't care what they draw. They have all the draw in the world they need and better healing than Priests. I mean, WTF? How is THAT a thing?
The only deck that I have that beats it consistently seems to be Mill Rogue - which is really boring to play, tbh.
Screw boycotting priests. It's Warlock who is currently the biggest cancer ruining this game. At least you had half a chance against most priests if they draw badly. Warlocks don't care what they draw. They have all the draw in the world they need and better healing than Priests. I mean, WTF? How is THAT a thing?
The only deck that I have that beats it consistently seems to be Mill Rogue - which is really boring to play, tbh.
Lol what. In a post about priests you don't know that priests hard counter warlock?
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Probably a better way to nerf Raza would be to restrict its cost reduction to basic hero powers only.
Or restrict the DK hero power to only spells/minions, and not just any card.
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I'm sick and tired of all these whimps crying over priest being OP. Come on priest isn't even close to be as cancerous as old patron warrior, pirate warrior, face hunter or old midrange shaman. Priest is my favorite class and I enjoy playing it on my terms, not the big priest or going machinegun face. I don't want the class to get nerfed!
I don't think this will solve anything. I for one have just stopped playing Ladder. I've only played Dungeon Run since release. I get to rank 20 and I'm done. I only rarely ever go on Ladder to play my Big Mage deck.
I dislike what priest has become recently as well but the way you're presenting this is just silly. Phrases like "The ladder system is built to be intentionally frustrating", "In this meta it is insanely difficult to ladder anyway" and "decks that automatically win against everyone [like] priest" makes it sound like you're either trolling or being a drama king
Meanwhile, I highly doubt blizzard cares about people randomly conceding at rank 15 and it won't have enough of an impact on the ladder. Free wins at ranks where you can still get winstreaks just don't matter if you're trying to reach legend; most of the grinding happens after the rank 5 breakpoint. If anything, this kind of behavior rewards people for playing priest at your rank and incentives them to keep using it
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This thread has encouraged me to play priest for the free autoconcede wins!
All the tears in here. Lol.
Sorry you dislike priest so much but really it just sounds like you are on tilt because other decks get to their win condition faster than yours and instead of changing tactics, you just want to give up while crying foul.
Personally I never concede until I see a checkmate happening because even if my deck is not favored in a match-up it does not mean that it is impossible to win.
No way to autoconcede. I also hate priest decks, and dusted all priest cards more than year and half ago (since they started to play that gay lightbomb deck), and I have all heroes golden except priest.
I know that for the last seasons priest is awfull and frustrating oponent, but anyway I play against. Because I'm climbing the ladder and actually I never had 0% winrate against them. I just feel calm when I loose to them, because I know that they are cancer and just have more chance to win by current design than me, this is not skill matter, that is current game design. Anyway last season I got legend with rogue, and priests matches were not so bad overall (something like 12 wins 13 looses on rank5-legend). And current season with my nzoth-control lock I'm not loosing all priest matches and have something like 40-45% winrate, but after loose to priest I'm winning 2 mirrors and 1 aggro deck, so now I'm already on rank1 with just few hours of play daily.
And you know, when you win everybody else, but loose to priests, that occasional wins of priest deck are especially delightful :)
Ease up there, Salty.
You want to boycott the game in part, or basically shoot yourself in the foot because Priest is dominant? Knock yourself out. But don't expect most of us to follow suit. Every single expansion sees one or two classes rise a good deal more than the rest. KFT made Priests and Warlocks into damned juggernauts. MSoG made Shaman downright busted at times. I honestly can't remember what made me so nuts during WotOG, but I remember there was something. Playing against Paladins made me want to eat glass during TGT until I finally joined them. Huntertaker.. and so on.
Honestly, if you really feel this way about the meta right now, rather than complaining I would suggest teching. If you "know" that your opponent will be a control Priest 60% of the time, tech the cards to whip their asses. Play the archetype that can rush them down or continuously apply pressure after those board clears get used. Raza on 5 and Anduin on 8 doesn't mean a damned thing if they're dead on 7.
Is the answer that easy? Of course not. Is any answer better than giving up? Damned right it is.
A never-Legend Dad who keeps making rank 2 or 1, but then sliding.
Rumbling around Gurubashi Arena. Shirvallah is the best loa. Go Tigers!
I also HATE playing against Priests but your idea is dumb. They aren't even as frequent in numbers as you think. My last 50 games for example (I know small portion size but just using as an example) I only had 5 Priests. This meta right now is flooded with Huntards and Mages not Priests. Also I don't/won't auto conceed. Even if the deck/class is broken/OP I'm going to make them EARN their win.
Screw boycotting priests. It's Warlock who is currently the biggest cancer ruining this game. At least you had half a chance against most priests if they draw badly.
Warlocks don't care what they draw. They have all the draw in the world they need and better healing than Priests. I mean, WTF? How is THAT a thing?
The only deck that I have that beats it consistently seems to be Mill Rogue - which is really boring to play, tbh.
Huh huh, you like boy cotts. Huh, huh.