Not Priest, but Rogue will be the best class after the release of this expansion - 2nd might even be Druid.
With Kobolds, there will be tools to fight Razakus effectively, especially The Darkness. This is the main reason it will be able to surpass Priest, besides the fact that Rogue's new cards are very good. Temporus might be very effective at the start, but only until people figure out how to counter it. At that point, Temporus won't be played too much anymore.
Psychic Scream is very busted, but it - and the rest of the Priest cards - won't be enough to make Priest the very best class in this era. Druid also got a scary amount of options for Ramp-ish, value-oriented builds we need to be careful about. The problem with Priest though is that it got a whole lot of really good, maybe even broken cards, but the syngery between them is questionable at times. And a final goal in the game plan could be missing every now and then...
On the one hand you got your Dragon package, which mostly leads to a player to making a board-centric deck. Then you get a tool like Duskbreaker that can damage your board in rare cases as well, as it is a card best used when lagging behind. Psychic Scream helps you out alot when trailing or needing to stall time, but doesn't go along too well with a classic Dragon build or a minion-focused deck that utilizes that new 3 mana 2/4 and Cabal Shadow Priest. We get Dragon Soul while not having a comparable pool of cheap spells to Rogue, which might make the card pretty bad or at least inconsistent - Psionic Probe is not helping enough in that regard.
Long story short, Priest got tools here and there, but nothing completely refined besides the "usual culprits" in Razakus und Dragon builds, which can be countered quite well.
Priest will be able to build pretty broken decks, but all of them will be countered to the max. Metas don't shift super quickly usually, which means that Razakus will be played ALOT at the start. That means, Priest players will build decks that react to the meta other than act once we leave the "try-out stage", in order to be able to get huge win rates, which will be very possible. These types of decks never are tier 1, but a solid tier 1.5 at best.
The common HS player will fear Priest the most, but Priest won't be the best class in terms of win rates.
The only thing that The Darkness wil do to me is keeping my Shadow Word Death and Kazzakus sheep spell in my hand longer just like you can easily play around N'zoth. I think The Darkness is a great card but it will never end an Archtype for people that know how to play around it.
Stipulating the best class based on winrates is a complete farce and something Blizzard falls back on quite often. When a deck surges in popularity, its win-rate falls exponentially since a lot of players that choose to play this 'new op deck' lack the knowledge of the basic fundamentals of Hearthstone.
Razandiun priest is still a tier 1 deck. The fact that people can't play it as well because people can include tech cards against it doesn't take away from its viability.
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Another 'The darkness will keep Priests in check'-point. The Darkness only works if you manage to draw him before the priest draws Raza, and since it is a legendary you will not play him on curve in the majority of your games. If the Priest plays Raza and maybe Kazakus before you manage to play The Darkness he will be a 4 mana 20/20 battlecry: "Waste 4 mana".
What rogue deck do you think will dominate the ladder? Tempo? Miracle? Or maybe even Mill?
Very hard to say. I just see many, many possibilities of viable Rogue decks and I believe one of them will be the most potent deck. There are lots of synergistic cards that can work together pretty well. We could see our "usual" Rogue decks like Miracle and Tempo dominate, but also something exotic like Leeroy/Cheat Death/Carnivorous Cube shenanigans, because the card pool is super good and has all the needed potential to pull something crazy off.
In general, this expansion seems to have got the classes closer together in terms of power level (yes, I will look back to this and pinch myself, cause there will be that one superb deck everyone missed out), while also initiating somedegree of power creep. Warlock could turn out to be pretty busted, Priest obviously has potential, a mixture of Elemental/Casino/Quest/Secret Mage might be awesome as well; Druid could take the most advantage if Aggro gets stalled effectively and and and...
Summa summarum, I don't know sht and only time will tell ;)
I really really don't understand why people think the darkness will counter razakus, You'll need to have it down before Raza gets down otherwise it does nothing, and even in the case that you do get it down before Raza all that's doing is delaying them a bit, and if you can't activate kazakus it's not the worst thing ever. And besides, the Priest is very happy that you're spending 4 Mana doing nothing, so essentially it's an equal trade off. And did I mention that no one will run the darkness because the card suck?? Because no one will run the darkness, he sucks. I feel like the developers have an objective of making sure priest is the best but people will complain that there's no way to counter them so they made the shittiest tech card in history. If youre a tempo deck and you play this on turn 4, that alone will lose you the game...so don't get too excited. Save your excitement for in 4 months from now when the set will rotate.
You're missing the point lol. The darkness puts 3 candles into your deck, making raza and kaza unusabe. Then we kill you before that shotgun bs starts.
Your usually playing priest until the last 5 cards anyway before you finish them , Priest has allot of Draw and you actually need to draw and play this card aswell before turn 5 and turn 8
You'll have to draw The Darkness in time, which you won't always do. In most matches it will be an extremely bad card. You can also win without raza in a lot of games (I speak from experience playing razapriest) and even if playing against an active the darkness you can probably wait it out. Then you have the games where you would have won without The Darkness anyway.
So if we assume raza is 10% of ladder, you have a card that might be secure the win in probably way under half of those games.
The Darkness isn't going even put a dent in raza's gameplan overall, and when the fad passes and people remove it from their decks to avoid being crushed by tempo and aggro decks it will do even less.
Stipulating the best class based on winrates is a complete farce and something Blizzard falls back on quite often. When a deck surges in popularity, its win-rate falls exponentially since a lot of players that choose to play this 'new op deck' lack the knowledge of the basic fundamentals of Hearthstone.
Razandiun priest is still a tier 1 deck. The fact that people can't play it as well because people can include tech cards against it doesn't take away from its viability.
That is my point. Pros will be able to handle decks like Razakus quite well, because of knowledge and/or misplays due to lack of skill. I only consider decks to be clear tier 1, when the deck delivers very well while also being pretty "brain-dead" or, in fact, easy to use for everyone. An example for that was Secret Paladin back then. Tier 1.5 or 2 decks do not mean that said decks are worse than tier 1 decks, but that maximizing their potential is harder.
Stipulating the best class based on winrates is a complete farce and something Blizzard falls back on quite often. When a deck surges in popularity, its win-rate falls exponentially since a lot of players that choose to play this 'new op deck' lack the knowledge of the basic fundamentals of Hearthstone.
Razandiun priest is still a tier 1 deck. The fact that people can't play it as well because people can include tech cards against it doesn't take away from its viability.
Yup, totally true. Remember how they said that patron warrior (S-tier deck at that moment, razakus is not even close) is balanced and even underpowered, given players using it have 45% winrate avarage?
Another 'The darkness will keep Priests in check'-point. The Darkness only works if you manage to draw him before the priest draws Raza, and since it is a legendary you will not play him on curve in the majority of your games. If the Priest plays Raza and maybe Kazakus before you manage to play The Darkness he will be a 4 mana 20/20 battlecry: "Waste 4 mana".
That card will be used mainly to stall some time in order to get your needed cards for victory, because winning against a Razakus by overwhelming him with sheer value falls flat now due to Psychic Scream.
Sure, it won't be super consistent all the time, but it will happen to hinder your opponent.
Not Priest, but Rogue will be the best class after the release of this expansion - 2nd might even be Druid.
With Kobolds, there will be tools to fight Razakus effectively, especially The Darkness. This is the main reason it will be able to surpass Priest, besides the fact that Rogue's new cards are very good. Temporus might be very effective at the start, but only until people figure out how to counter it. At that point, Temporus won't be played too much anymore.
Psychic Scream is very busted, but it - and the rest of the Priest cards - won't be enough to make Priest the very best class in this era. Druid also got a scary amount of options for Ramp-ish, value-oriented builds we need to be careful about. The problem with Priest though is that it got a whole lot of really good, maybe even broken cards, but the syngery between them is questionable at times. And a final goal in the game plan could be missing every now and then...
On the one hand you got your Dragon package, which mostly leads to a player to making a board-centric deck. Then you get a tool like Duskbreaker that can damage your board in rare cases as well, as it is a card best used when lagging behind. Psychic Scream helps you out alot when trailing or needing to stall time, but doesn't go along too well with a classic Dragon build or a minion-focused deck that utilizes that new 3 mana 2/4 and Cabal Shadow Priest. We get Dragon Soul while not having a comparable pool of cheap spells to Rogue, which might make the card pretty bad or at least inconsistent - Psionic Probe is not helping enough in that regard.
Long story short, Priest got tools here and there, but nothing completely refined besides the "usual culprits" in Razakus und Dragon builds, which can be countered quite well.
Priest will be able to build pretty broken decks, but all of them will be countered to the max. Metas don't shift super quickly usually, which means that Razakus will be played ALOT at the start. That means, Priest players will build decks that react to the meta other than act once we leave the "try-out stage", in order to be able to get huge win rates, which will be very possible. These types of decks never are tier 1, but a solid tier 1.5 at best.
The common HS player will fear Priest the most, but Priest won't be the best class in terms of win rates.
What rogue deck do you think will dominate the ladder? Tempo? Miracle? Or maybe even Mill?
The only thing that The Darkness wil do to me is keeping my Shadow Word Death and Kazzakus sheep spell in my hand longer just like you can easily play around N'zoth. I think The Darkness is a great card but it will never end an Archtype for people that know how to play around it.
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Stipulating the best class based on winrates is a complete farce and something Blizzard falls back on quite often. When a deck surges in popularity, its win-rate falls exponentially since a lot of players that choose to play this 'new op deck' lack the knowledge of the basic fundamentals of Hearthstone.
Razandiun priest is still a tier 1 deck. The fact that people can't play it as well because people can include tech cards against it doesn't take away from its viability.
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Another 'The darkness will keep Priests in check'-point. The Darkness only works if you manage to draw him before the priest draws Raza, and since it is a legendary you will not play him on curve in the majority of your games. If the Priest plays Raza and maybe Kazakus before you manage to play The Darkness he will be a 4 mana 20/20 battlecry: "Waste 4 mana".
In general, this expansion seems to have got the classes closer together in terms of power level (yes, I will look back to this and pinch myself, cause there will be that one superb deck everyone missed out), while also initiating somedegree of power creep. Warlock could turn out to be pretty busted, Priest obviously has potential, a mixture of Elemental/Casino/Quest/Secret Mage might be awesome as well; Druid could take the most advantage if Aggro gets stalled effectively and and and...
I really really don't understand why people think the darkness will counter razakus, You'll need to have it down before Raza gets down otherwise it does nothing, and even in the case that you do get it down before Raza all that's doing is delaying them a bit, and if you can't activate kazakus it's not the worst thing ever. And besides, the Priest is very happy that you're spending 4 Mana doing nothing, so essentially it's an equal trade off. And did I mention that no one will run the darkness because the card suck?? Because no one will run the darkness, he sucks. I feel like the developers have an objective of making sure priest is the best but people will complain that there's no way to counter them so they made the shittiest tech card in history. If youre a tempo deck and you play this on turn 4, that alone will lose you the game...so don't get too excited. Save your excitement for in 4 months from now when the set will rotate.
Not buying it. The Darkness will not be crafted by everyone, and it is pretty inconsistent. Psychic Scream will stall long enough for the combo.
Rogue did get that epic card that gives you 16/16 of stats for 4 mana.
You'll have to draw The Darkness in time, which you won't always do. In most matches it will be an extremely bad card. You can also win without raza in a lot of games (I speak from experience playing razapriest) and even if playing against an active the darkness you can probably wait it out. Then you have the games where you would have won without The Darkness anyway.
So if we assume raza is 10% of ladder, you have a card that might be secure the win in probably way under half of those games.
The Darkness isn't going even put a dent in raza's gameplan overall, and when the fad passes and people remove it from their decks to avoid being crushed by tempo and aggro decks it will do even less.
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Sure, it won't be super consistent all the time, but it will happen to hinder your opponent.