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It's funny, Priest without Raza when it rotates out as of now will be the worst class in the game, mixed in with what else it is losing. Priest will need some very strong cards in the next two expansions to keep it anything other than tier 4 when the next rotation happens.

I would love to see a priest nerf, not because the class is strong but its just anoying. Priest is such a troll RNG class. If theyre lucky and draw right card at right time priest is unbeatable.

However they class is verry inconsistent due to that need. But thats what i hate about it. I would prefer a Class ban option over any nerf to druid/Priest thought in normal tournaments you have also 1 ban.

Might increase cue time for OP decks but thats only fair and kinda balancing i think.

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Why people complain about Priest, Priest is one of the worst base basic and classic cards in a class compared to other classes, just because Blizz give them a solid DK hero, which has a good synergy with raza does not mean is totally broken, yes they can kill you in 1 turn is true, but just to reach that turn you need all the combo cards in your hand you build the game to reach that point, is not a brainless fucking face pirate which just go face with minions and play weapons and does not care about trades, NO is a control deck with a win condition, and the win condition requires also skill in order to kill the opponent in 1 turn or almost kill them. 

So stop crying Priest need a nerf cause raza decks requires skill and knowledge about how to play your cards since you only have 1 copy of each one. If you complain about a control decks you clearly are a aggro slave who hates to see how a control deck wiped your board with control cards .... each deck has different strats and clearly the raza deck is a  full control deck built to reach the late game and kill you, so you have a lot of time to punish him or just be punished if you deck cannot win against him, any deck can't win against all decks, every deck has weakness, I won some matches using my raza just by top decking something that saved my ass, and sometimes I totally control the game and sometimes I just lose, that is the RNG of HS so deal with it or looking for another games which suits your desires.

No please do not nerf Priest. They are already fucked when Gadgetzan rotates out.

Played all day on ladder in wild. Today. I forgot that Hunters and Warlocks exist. Only goddamn priests. And Paladins. Literally ten in a row. With Barnes and all that shit you don't even need a brain to play. So you could just let your dog or cat play it and your winrate will stay fine. 

Leave Priest alone, leave Druid alone, just nerf every Mage card and Hearthstone will be saved.

How about nerf the entire Hearthstone by deleting it?!

Go play Tetris mate

Yeah, while they're at it just nerf Hunter, Shaman, and all non-pirate Warrior cards too.

Razakus Priest has really been performing well recently, it was probably the best performing deck at the HCT EU Summer prelims over the weekend. But that was where nearly everyone banned Druid.

I think there are some merits to nerfing Razakus Priest in future. It seems very very strong (Druid level of insane w/o Druid) and the endless M-16 hero power is very frustrating to play against. And not very interactive at all.

Let's see what happens to Druid first and what the meta looks like a few weeks after this nerf. Priest being top dog after is not that unrealistic.

If any Priest deck is nerfed it will be Razakus. Big / Barnes Priest is only OP when you draw Barnes. Try play 10 games with the deck and see how well it goes. It's not nearly as fun (or as good) as the YouTube highlights have lead you to believe!

Priest will prob get nerfed if the razakus deck keeps face stomping tournaments, but let's wait til we see how things change after Jade Druid is nerfed first. Maybe there are a few decks that counter priest that are unplayable right now because of how bad they are vs druid

Either i suck with Jade druid, or the priest lists are evolving.. After hitting legend with Murloc paladin last season, i decided to crafted Jade druid to knock out some quests.. Well, i can say with certainly that i have a 0% winrate vs priest. Yes, Jade as the ability to go infinite with Jades, but that doesnt matter when priests are summoning 9 and 10 drops on turn 4/5.

I think im 3-12 with jade so far this season. 

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Everyone is saying Priest is fine because it's only around in such high numbers because it counters Jade Druid. Which, in Standard, I'm sure is true. But in Wild, Priest is WAY more common than Druid is and way more oppressive.

Big Priest is much more consistent due to having Resurrect, and Lightbomb as an extra board clear.

Reno Priest is just straight up obnoxious. They have Reno AND Amara, so 2 ways to fully heal. They have top notch deathrattles from Naxx to use with the quest, and two ridiculous late game bombs (N'Zoth, with the aforementioned good deathrattles, and the DK). Even if you can play the grindy game, they just randomly bust out Spawn of Shadows and kill you from 20 or whatever. There just doesn't seem to be any winning strategy against this deck: you play aggro, they play Reno. You play midrange, they play N'Zoth. You play control, they play Spawn of Shadows OTK.

Look at TempoStorm's meta snapshot: they bumped Reno Priest from 17th place in the meta to 3rd in ONE WEEK. FOURTEEN PLACES UP IN ONE WEEK. What makes anyone think that there's nothing unfair going on here?

My opinion of this thread and threads like this:

WAAAAA I can't beat <insert whatever deck here>! Nerf nerf nerf so I can lose to something else and then complain about that!

Priest T1 meta would be the lamest meta ever .....

Seriously? Go back and take a look at the Vicious Syndicate Data Reaper reports since the start of Un'goro.

Murloc Paladin is explicitly classified as Tier 1 in 13 out of the 17 reports.

And it likely would have  appeared as Tier 1  explicitly in those other four, except that during that period it was temporarily reclassified with "Midrange Paladin" and/or "Aggro Paladin" - both also Tier 1 decks.

https://www.vicioussyndicate.com/tag/data-reaper-report/?utm_source=main-nav&amp;utm_medium=link

You'll find similar reports at TempoStorm.

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Priest is not even considered broken, if u really suffer againts priest, try to counter him with 4 attack minions, he is not the class that cannot be countered 

 I know he can be countered, but he still very strong even if you 4 attack minions, priest just beats almost every class.

 Priest is broken. check the data. https://www.vicioussyndicate.com/vs-data-reaper-report-60/?utm_source=main-nav&amp;utm_medium=link

Yes priest is tier 3.  But look also the table, against who priest has his unfavorable matches? Druid. So he will grow a lot in win rate after the druid nerf. It is strong priest very strong. I think he will be in tier 1, like now the razakus priest version with reno in wild is tier 1. 

 I'm looking, and all I see is after Druid nerfs Pirates and Murloc Paladin will be Tier 1. No priest issues. 

 Then you don't understand data. For pirate war was 50/50 and for Murloc paladin and easy match.(check better the tables) If someone will take advantages will be the priest that has a lower win rate against druid. 

I'm looking at the matchup win rate chart. It clearly shows Murlocs and Pirates will be strongest if the Druid nerf is strong enough and the only real counter is Token Shaman. Priest will have many counters. I don't know where you're looking or what you're talking about.

 I told you you are not able the read that table. Table show that for pirate and murcloc the match against druid is easy, so if you nerf druid pirate and murloc will not grow in win rate. By the way for priest the match is hard (see the table) so priest will grow in win rate. Priest will grow and maybe rogue and warlock. But for sure no pirate war and murloc. (see better the table)

Because the broken cards in druid are the basic (not even classic) ones. Swipe, innervate, wild growth, Nourish, etc

There are already plenty of counters to priest. All 4-attack minions for example.

Yeah let's just keep nerfing every class until they are all pathetic and can't do anything. What fun the meta will be.