No card draw? There is neutral 2 mana draw up to 3 cards. Tbh card draw is fine. It also got 3 mana Veranus, that sounds like a great board clear to me. Also that 4 mana legendary that can cast 8/8 divine shield from your deck. Libram pala is going to be strong, since 50% will run agro decks
they are pushing for a big/control pala. mech murloc duel dragon secret heal libram buff they've got literally no idea what to do with paladin. Next exp we'll see treant paladin :)
Big Paladin will definitely be a thing. Not S Tier, but will have its place. Do some theorycrafting yourself before going apeshit. I genuinely like all the cards Pala received, apart from the somewhat useless lifesteal card, but who knows.
Given that Pala is the worst class in Standard, I'm a bit surprised at how poor the options are for existing archetypes from this set.
Lord Barov is a big addition for sure, as a Equality on a body that comes with its own "Wild Pyro" trigger on Death Rattle. I do think he'll see a ton of play and more play in Paladin - but as a legendary, he's not a consistent build-around to anchor a deck.
Devout Pupil is also probably very good in practice. The base rate here is a Sunwalker; 'walker hasn't been playable since launch but it isn't an awful card by any means. The current Pure Paladin build runs Librams + Hand of A'dal though, and that's a huge deal in cranking out this bad boy on turn 5 or 4 instead.
First Day of School also deserves a mention as the first 0-cost Spell in the history of Paladin, which is a bigger deal than ever in a set with Spellburst as a principle mechanic. It's not even that bad a card, it just doesn't especially fit in current Paladin decks.
Those are the only slamdunk cards I see though. I think the next most exciting card is actually Gift of Luminance which reminds me a lot of Seal of Champions in terms of power and which seems pretty scary in Murlocadin alongside stuff like Murloc Warleader, Murmy, and Murgur Murgurgle and is also good alongside Shotbot and other Reborn cards.
But the rest seems bad. I suspect that with testing we'll find that Argent Braggart is not good; while it scales to the biggest threat on the board in a way similar to Faceless Manipulator the big thing is that it's "just stats". It's also weak to silence, and doesn't copy gametext (which was often the actual selling point of Manipulator imo). Ceremonial Maul is okay and obviously dreamy if you get to summon a 9/9 to compliment your 8/8 with Libram of Hope but it seems awkward with other cards in Pure Paladin and seems like overall less value than Underlight Angling Rod. Everything else is truly pack-filling junk including their other two Legendaries :(.
First day of school, Devout Pupil, Alura, Goody-Two Shoes, fuckin Vectus giving you extra murgurgle primes! Libram Paladin got plenty of support, stop with the drugs kid.
First day of school, Devout Pupil, Alura, Goody-Two Shoes, fuckin Vectus giving you extra murgurgle primes! Libram Paladin got plenty of support, stop with the drugs kid.
But the rest seems bad. I suspect that with testing we'll find that Argent Braggart is not good; while it scales to the biggest threat on the board in a way similar to Faceless Manipulator the big thing is that it's "just stats".
A 2 mana card becoming a huge beatstick and forcing your enemy to use removal/silence is a lot better than a 5 mana card which inconsistently does the same. You can play Argent Braggart and Libram of Hope on the same turn easily, you can Argent Braggart into Libram of Justice and Consecration. Can't do that with Faceless Manipulator.
I was expecting more direct libram support. Maybe a libram that draws cards, but I'm not surprised at all we didn't get that.
I think big paladin looks kinda decent. I'm not sure how it'll match up against tempo or aggro decks, but I think it looks kinda decent.
Alura will be in a very different sort of Paladin deck. Unfortunately she doesn't have synergy with Liadrin, but she can pull spells out of your deck for deck thinning purposes/tempo if you build it correctly.
The neutral that draws up to three cards are not really anything worth mentioning for Paladin, in ky opinion. It's extremely rare I see a Pala with a completely empty hand. Usually more around 4-5 cards, unless they're murloc, which usually either wins or loses before this sort of thing becomes relevant.
Pala needs some draw that works regardless of hand size, like the weapon based draw card that Warrior/Rogue just got. Something like that would be what Paladin players are begging for.
That being said, I think Libram Pala got stronger. Some real good buff cards, and a few efficient minions for them, along with a real good dual class legendary to work with that facilitates it. Gonna look forward to trying mixing some of those in.
no libram support, no new libram cards... seriously what the fuck?
and the cards we got are lackluster and doesnt fit into any existing deck and pala decks are already shit
Stop taking drugs, it's clearly not good for you.
No libram support??? Paladin got 0 mana 4/5 taunt divine shield and 2 mana choose your stats. To me its a huge boost
no card draw, no real aoe or clears.. still a big problem for pala. a few strong cards wont change anything.
it wont fit into current decks anyway. what u gonna cut for it
Maybe big paladin? Dunno..
No card draw? There is neutral 2 mana draw up to 3 cards. Tbh card draw is fine. It also got 3 mana Veranus, that sounds like a great board clear to me. Also that 4 mana legendary that can cast 8/8 divine shield from your deck. Libram pala is going to be strong, since 50% will run agro decks
they are pushing for a big/control pala. mech murloc duel dragon secret heal libram buff they've got literally no idea what to do with paladin. Next exp we'll see treant paladin :)
Big Paladin will definitely be a thing. Not S Tier, but will have its place. Do some theorycrafting yourself before going apeshit. I genuinely like all the cards Pala received, apart from the somewhat useless lifesteal card, but who knows.
Lord Barov: am I a joke to you?
Gotta disagree, I have great hope in aggro Paladin for Scholomance
Big paladin? yeah ok. tier 3 maybe,
murloc pala, boring, aggro yes. tier 1, but who wantrs to play tier 1 aggro garbage? ...
libram pally? sure its in an "OK" spot right now, but will it continue? prob not considering the insane cards other classes just got so
control pally? nope, control pally has not been a thing for ages, and these cards wont change any of that, sorry.
This is not the place for it but, RIP quest mage in wild Mindrender Illucia
Given that Pala is the worst class in Standard, I'm a bit surprised at how poor the options are for existing archetypes from this set.
Lord Barov is a big addition for sure, as a Equality on a body that comes with its own "Wild Pyro" trigger on Death Rattle. I do think he'll see a ton of play and more play in Paladin - but as a legendary, he's not a consistent build-around to anchor a deck.
Devout Pupil is also probably very good in practice. The base rate here is a Sunwalker; 'walker hasn't been playable since launch but it isn't an awful card by any means. The current Pure Paladin build runs Librams + Hand of A'dal though, and that's a huge deal in cranking out this bad boy on turn 5 or 4 instead.
First Day of School also deserves a mention as the first 0-cost Spell in the history of Paladin, which is a bigger deal than ever in a set with Spellburst as a principle mechanic. It's not even that bad a card, it just doesn't especially fit in current Paladin decks.
Those are the only slamdunk cards I see though. I think the next most exciting card is actually Gift of Luminance which reminds me a lot of Seal of Champions in terms of power and which seems pretty scary in Murlocadin alongside stuff like Murloc Warleader, Murmy, and Murgur Murgurgle and is also good alongside Shotbot and other Reborn cards.
But the rest seems bad. I suspect that with testing we'll find that Argent Braggart is not good; while it scales to the biggest threat on the board in a way similar to Faceless Manipulator the big thing is that it's "just stats". It's also weak to silence, and doesn't copy gametext (which was often the actual selling point of Manipulator imo). Ceremonial Maul is okay and obviously dreamy if you get to summon a 9/9 to compliment your 8/8 with Libram of Hope but it seems awkward with other cards in Pure Paladin and seems like overall less value than Underlight Angling Rod. Everything else is truly pack-filling junk including their other two Legendaries :(.
First day of school, Devout Pupil, Alura, Goody-Two Shoes, fuckin Vectus giving you extra murgurgle primes! Libram Paladin got plenty of support, stop with the drugs kid.
nothing better than a pair good shoes
I was actually thinking paladin got some really good cards, especially their dual class legendaries.
A 2 mana card becoming a huge beatstick and forcing your enemy to use removal/silence is a lot better than a 5 mana card which inconsistently does the same. You can play Argent Braggart and Libram of Hope on the same turn easily, you can Argent Braggart into Libram of Justice and Consecration. Can't do that with Faceless Manipulator.
I was expecting more direct libram support. Maybe a libram that draws cards, but I'm not surprised at all we didn't get that.
I think big paladin looks kinda decent. I'm not sure how it'll match up against tempo or aggro decks, but I think it looks kinda decent.
Alura will be in a very different sort of Paladin deck. Unfortunately she doesn't have synergy with Liadrin, but she can pull spells out of your deck for deck thinning purposes/tempo if you build it correctly.
The neutral that draws up to three cards are not really anything worth mentioning for Paladin, in ky opinion. It's extremely rare I see a Pala with a completely empty hand. Usually more around 4-5 cards, unless they're murloc, which usually either wins or loses before this sort of thing becomes relevant.
Pala needs some draw that works regardless of hand size, like the weapon based draw card that Warrior/Rogue just got. Something like that would be what Paladin players are begging for.
That being said, I think Libram Pala got stronger. Some real good buff cards, and a few efficient minions for them, along with a real good dual class legendary to work with that facilitates it. Gonna look forward to trying mixing some of those in.
I will try this libra deck in wild.