Shame. It was my favorite class but it is completely impotent at the moment.
Hard to even believe how bad the Kara paladin cards are.
Nightbane is a card that belongs in a steward of darkshire aggro deck but because of the crapy conditions it can only fit into a weak midrange or control dragon deck.
1/1 tokens get bullied by pretty much everything these days. Its really terrible. Its so bad im almost not sure It should even be put in a dragon deck. Its almost as bad as the poverty portal buff card paladin was given.
Now that priest has that super annoying and effective res. deck paladin is at the very bottom as far as I can tell.
I feel like Secret Paladin is actually a pretty decent deck. Played it to rank 4 (not trying for legend). It wrecks Warrior and Hunter, and is slightly favored against Shaman, all of which are very popular right now.
Had pretty good success with Shield decks right now. Moros can be surprisingly good. Very few classes run early enough board clear and a shield on him is pretty much GG in a lot of cases.
Can you wait for a few weeks after the last Kara wing is released this week to decide whether Paladin will be the worst class? I think it is too early to tell as you need to give people time to refine the decks....
The current ladder season is pretty messy because of the mix of old decks and new cards being tested.... September season should be more stable towards the mid-season.
Paladin isn't terrible, but it is confined to a lot less options to be effective. Namely, the only common and effective Pally deck I've been seeing is anyfin + lotsa heals, using ivory knight. Other than that, the other options didn't benefit much from karazhan relative to other classes.
It's okay though, as blizzard sees balance, every class gets to be good for a little while eventually.
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I feel like Secret Paladin is actually a pretty decent deck. Played it to rank 4 (not trying for legend). It wrecks Warrior and Hunter, and is slightly favored against Shaman, all of which are very popular right now.
We're talking standard right?
I hit rank 4 with a homebrew paladin djinn buff deck last season.
This season however playing paladin was like beating my head against a brick wall.
Secret paladin is a very well positioned deck right now and uses silvermoon portal. Nightbane Templar is a REALLY good card, just the right deck is not there for it yet.
Priest got some new toys and may be viable, but is still the worst class imo.
Im not sure how this card can be considered remotely good with R ghoul, maelstrom portal, flame juggle, huge toad, more mage spells than I care to list etc etc etc in the meta.
Honestly if it didn't have that terrible dragon condition attached to it, it would at least be playable. As it is now it's pretty bad.
Its not much of a muster unless you run it with knife juggler which I haven't tried yet. The dragon deck feels so tight for space as it is. Much too tight to run juggler. The combo would be slow and inconsistent especially when compared to what zoo can do with juggler.
Secret paladin is a very well positioned deck right now and uses silvermoon portal. Nightbane Templar is a REALLY good card, just the right deck is not there for it yet.
Priest got some new toys and may be viable, but is still the worst class imo.
Im not sure how this card can be considered remotely good with R ghoul, maelstrom portal, flame juggle, huge toad, more mage spells than I care to list etc etc etc in the meta.
Honestly if it didn't have that terrible dragon condition attached to it, it would at least be playable. As it is now it's pretty bad.
Its not much of a muster unless you run it with knife juggler which I haven't tried yet. The dragon deck feels so tight for space as it is. Much too tight to run juggler. The combo would be slow and inconsistent especially when compared to what zoo can do with juggler.
You know that Muster for Battle was a pretty broken Paladin card....
If Nightbane battlecry didn't have the holding Dragon condition, that would be super broken... so 3 mana for a 2/3 and two 1/1s?
If that happened, it will end up being used for the traditional Aggro/Secret Paladin decks again.... and I'm sure that both people and Blizz don't want the Secret Paladin domination which was just barely a year ago....
Switch to control paladin and use cards like Aldor Peacekeeper, Keeper of Uldaman, Humility, Equality, and Wild Pyromancer. See how fast you can make an Aggro Shaman or Zoolock Concede,
Secret paladin is a very well positioned deck right now and uses silvermoon portal. Nightbane Templar is a REALLY good card, just the right deck is not there for it yet.
Priest got some new toys and may be viable, but is still the worst class imo.
Im not sure how this card can be considered remotely good with R ghoul, maelstrom portal, flame juggle, huge toad, more mage spells than I care to list etc etc etc in the meta.
Honestly if it didn't have that terrible dragon condition attached to it, it would at least be playable. As it is now it's pretty bad.
Its not much of a muster unless you run it with knife juggler which I haven't tried yet. The dragon deck feels so tight for space as it is. Much too tight to run juggler. The combo would be slow and inconsistent especially when compared to what zoo can do with juggler.
You know that Muster for Battle was a pretty broken Paladin card....
If Nightbane battlecry didn't have the holding Dragon condition, that would be super broken... so 3 mana for a 2/3 and two 1/1s?
If that happened, it will end up being used for the traditional Aggro/Secret Paladin decks again.... and I'm sure that both people and Blizz don't want the Secret Paladin domination which was just barely a year ago....
Paladin should have an aggro deck. Why does it have to be only a control class now?
Tokens also arnt what they used to be either. These new rez priests could clear your token all day everyday with or without divine shield.
Where are the cards supporting divine shield paladin anyway? Nightbane sure isn't it.
On first glance I thought for sure protect the king was for paladin. Fucking retarded that it's for warrior.
Secret paladin is a very well positioned deck right now and uses silvermoon portal. Nightbane Templar is a REALLY good card, just the right deck is not there for it yet.
Priest got some new toys and may be viable, but is still the worst class imo.
Im not sure how this card can be considered remotely good with R ghoul, maelstrom portal, flame juggle, huge toad, more mage spells than I care to list etc etc etc in the meta.
Honestly if it didn't have that terrible dragon condition attached to it, it would at least be playable. As it is now it's pretty bad.
Its not much of a muster unless you run it with knife juggler which I haven't tried yet. The dragon deck feels so tight for space as it is. Much too tight to run juggler. The combo would be slow and inconsistent especially when compared to what zoo can do with juggler.
Secret paladin is a very well positioned deck right now and uses silvermoon portal. Nightbane Templar is a REALLY good card, just the right deck is not there for it yet.
Priest got some new toys and may be viable, but is still the worst class imo.
Im not sure how this card can be considered remotely good with R ghoul, maelstrom portal, flame juggle, huge toad, more mage spells than I care to list etc etc etc in the meta.
Honestly if it didn't have that terrible dragon condition attached to it, it would at least be playable. As it is now it's pretty bad.
Its not much of a muster unless you run it with knife juggler which I haven't tried yet. The dragon deck feels so tight for space as it is. Much too tight to run juggler. The combo would be slow and inconsistent especially when compared to what zoo can do with juggler.
Think a bit further. Yes, the tokens die to ghoul, but your opponent just used his best card against you (a token heavy class) not for only one card, but for its battlecry. That is assuming he has the ghoul. Also that card is immediate board presence in one card, available from t3. And if warrior does not have the ghoul immediately, the tokens are sure to get a buff. Paladin has 3 really good t4 Buffs in Kings, Portal and Uldaman.
Yes such a good card. I cant play my fairy dragon T2 if I want to play my nightbane with battlecry half the freaking time. Im not sure what game youre playing. I cant even get on the board half the time with paladin anymore let alone buff anything.
After the ghoul hits the pathetic 2/2 nightbane that's left doesn't even contest it.
meanwhile shaman has trogg totem golem spirits and faceless.
OP, I am pretty sure you used "impotent" incorrectly.
I think Rogue is currently the weakest class. It has a bad matchup against two of the most popular decks - dragon warrior and aggro shaman. Paladin is still at least a suitable counter to these decks.
N'Zoth paladin and aggro paladin are both very different paladin archetypes that are capable of reaching legend. Priest is still dumpster because resurrect priest simply isn't strong enough.
Shame. It was my favorite class but it is completely impotent at the moment.
Hard to even believe how bad the Kara paladin cards are.
Nightbane is a card that belongs in a steward of darkshire aggro deck but because of the crapy conditions it can only fit into a weak midrange or control dragon deck.
1/1 tokens get bullied by pretty much everything these days. Its really terrible. Its so bad im almost not sure It should even be put in a dragon deck. Its almost as bad as the poverty portal buff card paladin was given.
Now that priest has that super annoying and effective res. deck paladin is at the very bottom as far as I can tell.
I feel like Secret Paladin is actually a pretty decent deck. Played it to rank 4 (not trying for legend). It wrecks Warrior and Hunter, and is slightly favored against Shaman, all of which are very popular right now.
Well Nightbane seems alot better when you think of it as a replacement muster for battle in dragon decks
Had pretty good success with Shield decks right now. Moros can be surprisingly good. Very few classes run early enough board clear and a shield on him is pretty much GG in a lot of cases.
Can you wait for a few weeks after the last Kara wing is released this week to decide whether Paladin will be the worst class?
I think it is too early to tell as you need to give people time to refine the decks....
The current ladder season is pretty messy because of the mix of old decks and new cards being tested.... September season should be more stable towards the mid-season.
Paladin isn't terrible, but it is confined to a lot less options to be effective. Namely, the only common and effective Pally deck I've been seeing is anyfin + lotsa heals, using ivory knight. Other than that, the other options didn't benefit much from karazhan relative to other classes.
It's okay though, as blizzard sees balance, every class gets to be good for a little while eventually.
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Priest is waaaaaaaaaaay worse. It's completely stumped by big endgame stuff (n'zoth), early game tempo and anything with 4-attack.
Switch to control paladin and use cards like Aldor Peacekeeper, Keeper of Uldaman, Humility, Equality, and Wild Pyromancer. See how fast you can make an Aggro Shaman or Zoolock Concede,
seriously? how about the dragon tempo paladin? the only thing that rekt me were hunters, all other decks get destroyed.
Just stop complaining. Paladins have a few well-functioning decks, even if the majority of them are in Wild (and cause cancer). Rogues don't.
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OP, I am pretty sure you used "impotent" incorrectly.
I think Rogue is currently the weakest class. It has a bad matchup against two of the most popular decks - dragon warrior and aggro shaman. Paladin is still at least a suitable counter to these decks.
http://www.vicioussyndicate.com/matchup-chart-data-reaper-report/
N'Zoth paladin and aggro paladin are both very different paladin archetypes that are capable of reaching legend. Priest is still dumpster because resurrect priest simply isn't strong enough.
Fuck cubelock
N'zoth paladin is a tier 2 deck which is quite good
You can try my pala deck
http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/623952-menangerie-mania