Hearthpwn

Quote from ZCFlayer >>

This is an absurd thread. Sometimes RNG massively favours one player in a certain situation it's true, often it's you! Players tend to disregard when they get lucky themselves though and put it down to normal variance or skill instead.

 THIS!!!

Quote from user-100103573 >>

Unnecessary thread

 Exactly, as long as its about mage or priest its unnecessary. As for the rest of the classes, if cards are slightly stronger they should get nerfed to the point of being unplayable.

Do you know how many sperm cells are in one ejaculation? Millions! 60/ml is not even very high. Meaning the chance of you being born was less than 1/10000000

Your whole life is RIGGED! 

Quote from irhmgg1 >>

fk u if you think ill play this game again 

 Hey man, the personal attack is not necessary, alright?

I can't tell you how many times The Amazing Reno dumped my mana using Forbidden Words, or cleared my own board when I was ahead, or healed my opponent, or buffed my opponent's minions. But those memories definitely stick in my mind longer than the times Reno blasted my opponent or saved my butt.

Play a few more games, it will get better.

We'll see you later, okay? Have a good day.

Quote from 30Roman >>

@P4dge 

Using theory of probabilities you can exclude absolutely any bad intention everyone ever had, did he kill the guy or did he randomly fall 15 times with his knife in the victims back??? The fact that i can always think whats the best card in my opponent deck that can turn the game around with a chance of 1 in 15, but this happens 50% of games speaks volumes. And of course the game isn't rigged in favor of one player or another, it is rigged to look spectacular, the Reno either does huge bad stuff or huge good stuff, if it would've whiffed randomly the card would not be played anymore, and so whiffing spells have low chance. The game needs to look spectacular in order to be played, and in order to feel spectacular normally super rare occurrences need to happen more often. In the end they even it out, but at times it can be frustrating. And you say oh, no probability, so rare, so... they never admitted to the 40 pack legendary rule, and it was a good thing but they would've have to admit with playing with the odds, why would they stop at getting a legendary odds and not go further. More than this their patent legal documents imply they have rigged matchmaking mechanisms especially built to increase sales, with examples they say they can match a player with a standard -weapon- against one that has a newer weapon, in order to convince the first to buy the new expensive weapon, same time making the ladder player feel good about their new purchase by matching him against players without said weapon.

proof? uhm https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=LL&v=2T658vTvoRs&feature=emb_logo

there you go!

 Fairly sure someone went step by step and pulled that video apart on a thread on here. 

And no, you can't do that for everything, if you think you can or should be able to simply because it applies to another circumstance then you have serious issues with your epistemology. 

I've said a ton of times before, I'd have more sympathy for this conspiracy if it presented itself in a new or unique way. So many forums I've been active in accuse the deva of rigging matchmaking. The FIFA forum has pretty much the exact same theories and the same reasons used - keep win rates up for newer players to encourage pack sales, force people to have to switch out what players they use by making their players bad and encourage more pack sales, matchmaking being rigged to stop too many people achieving a high rank etc etc etc

I've never seen anything to suggest there is any benefit at all to doing this from a dev point of view. I've never seen anyone credible or reputable prove anything. I believe 3 lads have filed a suit against EA for match fixing and I'm sure that will be dismissed because none of the people making these accusations are qualified to actually understand what they are talking about, nor do they have the ability to look past their own bias.

When you have a pvp setup in a 1v1 situation, I fail to see the benefit of rigging anything anyway. You want player A to win so you have some ridiculous algorithm to pull off crazy rng (seems really inefficient anyway, surely it would be easier to just have 7/8 of the first cards drawn for player B be their lost expensive or along those lines) but no, they've arranged coding that pulls off a really random set of events to produce some crazy rng moment that was intended for player A to benefit from. So you do all that, player A wins (yay), but you have a really pissed off player B. So what have you achieved? If your aim is to increase player engagement then you've failed. If they rig your results to keep you at whatever rank you are, they are pissing you off and not achieving anything. This is where the Internet brainiacs say "B.. B.. But its to make you buy more packs". That's the sort of lame, stock response they've seen other people make, their little brains can't argue with it so they repeat it. Does it make people buy more packs? Really? All I've ever seen people do when they are at the bad end of this "rigging" is complain and say they are leaving the game etc. Do you have any evidence at all that there is a trend in hearthstone whereby losses = pack sales? Would you plough money into a game that you were convinced was rigged to make you lose?

Not to mention what there would be to lose if evidence came out of it. That video was done mo ths ago and yet there's zero noise about it, no response from Blizzard that I'm aware of etc. If it actually provided any proof that players were being conned into spending money you can be absolutely sure it would be everywhere. Websites would have picked it up and run with it, you think there would be a shortage of gaming journalists who would miss the opportunity to have such a big scandal? 

Read through this thread, it's all completely different, random things that people are complaining of and ask yourself, how and why have they done this specifically? Why are they giving secret mages the exact same draw and boosting their win rate? Or are they not the exact same draw and this player has actually just seem several examples of similar types of play from players using secret mage and their bias and poor memory have combined to convince them that they pulled and played the exact same cards, everytime and at the same time?

If its written into the coding then it must be repeatable. There would be a point at which the algorithm recognises "secret mage" and orders the draw to give specific cards that it has chosen because it will win the game (so at the same time it's having to rig your opponents draw to not counter any of this). What triggers this? The mages win %? Their rank? Their playing history?

Find out what it is, repeat it, record it and maybe we'll be able to have an actual conversation that doesn't boil down to salty complainers and their "feelings".

I would love it to be proven, just to put an end to the damn whinging. Just prove it, Blizzard can be slammed for it and we can all move on, I really have zero interest in trying to defend them, this is nothing to do with Blizzard or Hearthstone and more to do with the dangerous conspiracy mindset that seems to be taking over people these days. 

Sample size of 1 should be large enough...hahahaha!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H47ow4_Cmk0