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I am also working on a version of the control deck without the quest. If you frenzy the Vicious Scalehide, Countess Ashmore can draw two of them: one as the Rush and one as the Lifesteal. 

Update!

I tried Dire Frenzy in Big Hunter and Quest Hunter.

Big Hunter:

In Big Hunter, I die to aggro or own control without buffing any of my beast. I remember using the spell three times. Won me the game 2 times, the third was me bming. Deck lacks in consistency but it has potential. The support set I am running right doesn't suit vs aggro (more on support sets later). Dire Frenzy and Beast combo is just not possible unless and until you buff the beast next turn. This RARELY happens. Playdead is not performing well, most of the times it just sits in my hand doing nothing, I have lost games because of it. Might try Terrorscale Stalker and see how it performs or alter the deck a bit more. The deck is fun and testing out different decks is fun, but Hunter is lacking in couple of departments. 

Quest Hunter:

Quest Hunter you simply don't need Dire Frenzy. You are overwhelming in value with the brood and DK. At times I had so many cards I had a headache which one to use. The deck works, sometimes, magnificently. The built I have, I either steamroll or get owned and I mean get owned hard or I best my opponent so hard it gives me chills. I have had 20-25 mins games against some control decks. Those are fun, but loosing isn't fun after such a long game. I think some alterations will make the deck work better. Will try a different QH in a few days. I need to make a few changes and try again. Thinking of removing DK. It is just getting in the way when I need to do more damage to my opponent. And a lot of times the cards didn't give me the answer I needed. I believe DK has gotten worse after the expansion. So many useless minions. It is missing Kodo for the big removal or heal or both. Poison is good, but it's slow. 

Hunter Support Sets:

Ok, this is the interesting part. Hunter now has a few support sets to go with each deck. You obviously have the Baku Hunter and the midrange archetype. Both are good. But both lack vs. other aggro or heavy heavy control decks. These decks are your typical deck built around the classic aggro and midrange style.

The decks I am playing BH and QH have their core. BH with Kath and crew. QH with 1 drops. 

Now to help you reach the goal of both decks, you have some decent support sets and I will talk about them now.

1) Secret/Spellstone

This is your first support set. The 4 secrets you add in are Wandering Monster, Snake Trap, Venomstrike Trap and Freezing Trap as well the Spellstone. It gives you a control aspect and the ability to tempo your opponent. With the control having tremendous AoE, aggro having unlimited minions and tempo being tempo, it helps you fight around and maintain board superiority. It lacks vs big drops sometimes.

A total of 10 cards. You can add these in both QH and BH. Can add Explosive Trap if you feel like it. Rat Trap is still experimental but early assessment shows it is pretty strong later in the game. 

2) Toxmonger + 1 Drops

The second support set. It's your typical single target control setup very Rogue like. Elven Archer, Stonetusk Boar, Toxmonger, Hunter's Mark and Crackling Razormaw. 10 cards again. Contest the board and remove big minions. With the rise of Spiteful Summoner and quick big drops entering the game, this set is pretty cool since it takes out those big minions. Those decks don't run removal so your Archer stays on the board and can take out another big minion. The set lacks vs. aggro. Not very damaging for the opponent's face, but that's why you have the other part of your decks. 

3) Elementals

Yup, I tried it. It's not bad. Helps you fight aggro well. If you have Shaw on board, it's amazing. Not very damaging and focuses on value and aggro battles. You need to like the set ofcourse. Elementals in Hunter doesn't fun too fun. 

4) Dragons

I love this set. You will have around 10-14 dragons or dragon related cards depending on your preference. But man they do a great job. I tried it with QH only and I was overwhelmed, had too much going on at the same time. DK, Cult Master, Toxmonger Set, Dragons. I couldn't believe I had it all in one deck. Was crazy. And as you can imagine, it was confusing as hell. Carrion Drake is such a tourist attraction for the opponent. They keep mousing over it. The card can break your opponent all by itself. The new 7 mana taunt is not bad either. 

Now a review about some individual cards.

1) Cult Master

This card is beast in Hunter right now. I know you shouldn't trade as a Hunter but as control you need too, sometimes.

2) Tol'vir Warden

Don't run this card. Just use Cult Master. If the word disappointment need meaning, this card fits the bill. 

3) Deathstalker Rexxar

I am disappointed with this card. Most of the time it is filling my hand with garbage. 6, 7, 8, 9 mana cards that do nothing. I would recommend not running this card for now. Any other impactful card is better. You already have draw with Cult Master.

4) Wing Blast

Another disappointment. As a Hunter you need minion on the board to contest the enemy, since you lack other forms of control. Flanking Strike is better.

5) Houndmaster Shaw

Seriously, if this guy stays on the board, you win most of the times. The enemy attracts to it like flies on a candy. Solid legendary. 

6) Ravencaller

It has performed well. I think I might remove a couple of 1 drops from my QH because of this card. You can Stitched Tracker it. You need to have a strong set to support it. Guess a 3 mana 2/2 draw two 1 drops was too strong. 

7) Tracking

Man I hate this card. It is pretty good for aggro and midrange when you need an answer or whatever. But in control I ended up loosing my combo cards so many times. Removed it and the deck has gotten better.

8) Stitched Tracker

Man I love this card. Giving the right minion a lot of times. With this and Cult Master, you draw problems are solved. 

And finally, the talk of the thread

9) Dire Frenzy

Not a bad card. It works well. Unfortunately, no deck needs it. The effect is control and value oriented. QH doesn't need it since there are no fatigue wars going on in this meta. BH just needs to pull out one or two big minions max to end the game. The card sits in my hand most of the time. I replaced with more impactful cards. 

I need to streamline both decks, QH and BH. Both decks are lacking and performing at the same vs. different decks ofcourse! I am hovering around 45-50% winrate with them and the decks are not in their final stages. With some careful tweeks they can be Tier 2 decks. I am not the most skilled player, so any top player will provide a better view of the deck. I am hoping the decks can be around 52-54% winrate decks. Invested a lot of time, effort and dust into all this. 

There it is. My thoughts on Hunter so far. Control Hunter lacks in either health regeneration or AoE. Either of the two would bring CH decks very close to Tier 1, even solid Tier 1 and definitely Tier 2. However, we need to work with what we have. And what we have are bits and pieces. We need to put the puzzle together. But that is the fun part :D! 

Thanks for reading! Hope you all enjoyed reading all this. Your feedback is very important, so please comment! 

Deathstalker Rexxar can actually overwhelm an opponent over time, and most of the bad beasts rotated out. Dire Frenzy is pretty value-oriented, but a decent hit with it and a way to draw it, (like Witchwood Piper) it can be really powerful. Here's a list I made, definitely room for replacements in the traps. I might add Cult Master later for help drawing like you suggested. Let me know what you think

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Deathstalker Rexxar can actually overwhelm an opponent over time, and most of the bad beasts rotated out. Dire Frenzy is pretty value-oriented, but a decent hit with it and a way to draw it, (like Witchwood Piper) it can be really powerful. Here's a list I made, definitely room for replacements in the traps. I might add Cult Master later for help drawing like you suggested. Let me know what you think

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Minion (12) 2x Savannah Highmane 2x Witchwood Piper 1x Cult Master 2x Cave Hydra 1x Ironbeak Owl 2x Vicious Scalehide 2x Houndmaster	Ability (13) 2x Dinomancy 2x Tracking 2x Wandering Monster 1x Unleash the Hounds 2x Animal Companion 2x Dire Frenzy 2x Hunter's Mark	Weapon (4) 2x Eaglehorn Bow 2x Candleshot	Playable Hero (1) 1x Deathstalker Rexxar
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Tbe main benefits of Dinomancy are that, once it's online, you can buff every single turn if they don't clear your board immediately. And since your newly buffed Vicious Scalehides have rush and can be buffed again and again, it's difficult to answer. It's true I may need more beasts (a more consistent taunt, perhaps,) but rexxar really does help. I think I'll add Houndmaster on top of everything else and see how well it works out. Piper is good for me because, even if it's slow, it ALWAYS draws scalehide, which is either buffed already or can be at a moment's notice. 

Thanks for the feedback! I love making creative decks and just playing stuff to see what works. I'll try your other list as well to see what it's like and compare for myself

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Tbe main benefits of Dinomancy are that, once it's online, you can buff every single turn if they don't clear your board immediately. And since your newly buffed Vicious Scalehides have rush and can be buffed again and again, it's difficult to answer. It's true I may need more beasts (a more consistent taunt, perhaps,) but rexxar really does help. I think I'll add Houndmaster on top of everything else and see how well it works out. Piper is good for me because, even if it's slow, it ALWAYS draws scalehide, which is either buffed already or can be at a moment's notice. 

Thanks for the feedback! I love making creative decks and just playing stuff to see what works. I'll try your other list as well to see what it's like and compare for myself

This deck has been working well for me. Warden and ashmore are meant to tudor dire frenzied minions (boar/hounds and scalehides respectively.

I will definitely try it! :)

I'm rank 4 with big recruit hunter, using seeping oozlings, silver vanguards, kathrena, lich king, charged devs, withwood grizzlies, and king krush. Secret package (spellstone and putricide) + tar creepers for early game. Play dead and dire frenzy for wombo combos. Dont run cubes because it screws up Oozlings.

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Deathstalker Rexxar can actually overwhelm an opponent over time, and most of the bad beasts rotated out. Dire Frenzy is pretty value-oriented, but a decent hit with it and a way to draw it, (like Witchwood Piper) it can be really powerful. Here's a list I made, definitely room for replacements in the traps. I might add Cult Master later for help drawing like you suggested. Let me know what you think

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Minion (12) 2x Savannah Highmane 2x Witchwood Piper 1x Cult Master 2x Cave Hydra 1x Ironbeak Owl 2x Vicious Scalehide 2x Houndmaster	Ability (13) 2x Dinomancy 2x Tracking 2x Wandering Monster 1x Unleash the Hounds 2x Animal Companion 2x Dire Frenzy 2x Hunter's Mark	Weapon (4) 2x Eaglehorn Bow 2x Candleshot	Playable Hero (1) 1x Deathstalker Rexxar
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I am looking for Rexxar's new built a beast pool to make a fair judgement on the card because the results have been inconsistent. Most of the time I don't get a beast to answer my opponent. Maybe I need to show more faith in the beasts and just drop them on the board? All I know is that I am spending 2 mana to get a card that is sitting in hand and it messes up my plays. The health gain and AoE are beneficial from the card but I need to take some time to clear my head and make a fair assessment of Rexxar and other cards.

 

Your deck looks too focused on buffing. I don't believe dinomancy is a good card. Look at it this way, you spend 4 mana to give a beast +2/+2, with Dire Frenzy you give the minion +3/+3 and add 3 more to your deck for the same mana cost. The board doesn't have a beast all the time, something that should also be considered. A better buffer is Houndmaster. You get the +2/+2 just like from dinomancy AND a 4/3 with cool sound effects for the same mana cost. The guy win games. With your deck, the card is very valuable. 

 

I considered adding Piper and Hydra to my deck. The problem with Piper is the mana cost. 4 mana is loaded with Shaw, Strike and Cult Masters in my deck. Sometimes Houndmaster is also added. Hydra is something I might find room for. Seems good in a meta where Paladins are flooding the board. It is the best beast in build a beast right now, low cost and a heavy hitter. 

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Deathstalker Rexxar can actually overwhelm an opponent over time, and most of the bad beasts rotated out. Dire Frenzy is pretty value-oriented, but a decent hit with it and a way to draw it, (like Witchwood Piper) it can be really powerful. Here's a list I made, definitely room for replacements in the traps. I might add Cult Master later for help drawing like you suggested. Let me know what you think

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Minion (12) 2x Savannah Highmane 2x Witchwood Piper 1x Cult Master 2x Cave Hydra 1x Ironbeak Owl 2x Vicious Scalehide 2x Houndmaster	Ability (13) 2x Dinomancy 2x Tracking 2x Wandering Monster 1x Unleash the Hounds 2x Animal Companion 2x Dire Frenzy 2x Hunter's Mark	Weapon (4) 2x Eaglehorn Bow 2x Candleshot	Playable Hero (1) 1x Deathstalker Rexxar
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I am looking for Rexxar's new built a beast pool to make a fair judgement on the card because the results have been inconsistent. Most of the time I don't get a beast to answer my opponent. Maybe I need to show more faith in the beasts and just drop them on the board? All I know is that I am spending 2 mana to get a card that is sitting in hand and it messes up my plays. The health gain and AoE are beneficial from the card but I need to take some time to clear my head and make a fair assessment of Rexxar and other cards.

 

Your deck looks too focused on buffing. I don't believe dinomancy is a good card. Look at it this way, you spend 4 mana to give a beast +2/+2, with Dire Frenzy you give the minion +3/+3 and add 3 more to your deck for the same mana cost. The board doesn't have a beast all the time, something that should also be considered. A better buffer is Houndmaster. You get the +2/+2 just like from dinomancy AND a 4/3 with cool sound effects for the same mana cost. The guy win games. With your deck, the card is very valuable. 

 

I considered adding Piper and Hydra to my deck. The problem with Piper is the mana cost. 4 mana is loaded with Shaw, Strike and Cult Masters in my deck. Sometimes Houndmaster is also added. Hydra is something I might find room for. Seems good in a meta where Paladins are flooding the board. It is the best beast in build a beast right now, low cost and a heavy hitter. 

 Rexxar DK is a really slow card, the key to using him is in a deck that has other really high value minions and control tools (basically a control deck) to exhuast the opponents hand before you start building beasts. I find doomsayers work really well with the DK. Since the DK is fairly cheap, you can often drop the doomsayer on the same turn you transition into the DK to hopefully stall the opponent to give you the initiative to drop a zombeast on an empty board. If a control hunter deck is ever legit in standard, I presume doomsayers would be auto-includes.

 

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I'm rank 4 with big recruit hunter, using seeping oozlings, silver vanguards, kathrena, lich king, charged devs, withwood grizzlies, and king krush. Secret package (spellstone and putricide) + tar creepers for early game. Play dead and dire frenzy for wombo combos. Dont run cubes because it screws up Oozlings.

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Deathstalker Rexxar can actually overwhelm an opponent over time, and most of the bad beasts rotated out. Dire Frenzy is pretty value-oriented, but a decent hit with it and a way to draw it, (like Witchwood Piper) it can be really powerful. Here's a list I made, definitely room for replacements in the traps. I might add Cult Master later for help drawing like you suggested. Let me know what you think

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Minion (12) 2x Savannah Highmane 2x Witchwood Piper 1x Cult Master 2x Cave Hydra 1x Ironbeak Owl 2x Vicious Scalehide 2x Houndmaster	Ability (13) 2x Dinomancy 2x Tracking 2x Wandering Monster 1x Unleash the Hounds 2x Animal Companion 2x Dire Frenzy 2x Hunter's Mark	Weapon (4) 2x Eaglehorn Bow 2x Candleshot	Playable Hero (1) 1x Deathstalker Rexxar
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I am looking for Rexxar's new built a beast pool to make a fair judgement on the card because the results have been inconsistent. Most of the time I don't get a beast to answer my opponent. Maybe I need to show more faith in the beasts and just drop them on the board? All I know is that I am spending 2 mana to get a card that is sitting in hand and it messes up my plays. The health gain and AoE are beneficial from the card but I need to take some time to clear my head and make a fair assessment of Rexxar and other cards.

 

Your deck looks too focused on buffing. I don't believe dinomancy is a good card. Look at it this way, you spend 4 mana to give a beast +2/+2, with Dire Frenzy you give the minion +3/+3 and add 3 more to your deck for the same mana cost. The board doesn't have a beast all the time, something that should also be considered. A better buffer is Houndmaster. You get the +2/+2 just like from dinomancy AND a 4/3 with cool sound effects for the same mana cost. The guy win games. With your deck, the card is very valuable. 

 

I considered adding Piper and Hydra to my deck. The problem with Piper is the mana cost. 4 mana is loaded with Shaw, Strike and Cult Masters in my deck. Sometimes Houndmaster is also added. Hydra is something I might find room for. Seems good in a meta where Paladins are flooding the board. It is the best beast in build a beast right now, low cost and a heavy hitter. 

 Rexxar DK is a really slow card, the key to using him is in a deck that has other really high value minions and control tools (basically a control deck) to exhuast the opponents hand before you start building beasts. I find doomsayers work really well with the DK. Since the DK is fairly cheap, you can often drop the doomsayer on the same turn you transition into the DK to hopefully stall the opponent to give you the initiative to drop a zombeast on an empty board. If a control hunter deck is ever legit in standard, I presume doomsayers would be auto-includes.

 

 

Yeah, I see the power of Deathstalker right now. Using it in my Quest Hunter deck. He is doing pretty good! The deck overall is doing good. I do have some issues and need to change a few cards here and there. It's one of the most fun deck I have played. 

The deck does really well against the meta decks of Paladins. I am somewhat getting to control Cubelock too with the addition of Harrison. 

The main issue I have is that current control Hunter decks are relying too much on DK. Decks like Cubedruid get out of hand really fast. Keeping the tools to control them is difficult due to lack of reliable draw. Cult Master's do the job but only if you have a proper setup. And even with draw you might lack the one drops for Toxmonger. Trying to find DK to stabilize is the main goal of my QH deck right now. Once the Queen comes into gameplay, things get interesting really fast. You can Toxmonger the entire brood. The quest gets completed around turn 7-8, which is fair enough I believe, as you go around controlling the board before that.

Should I always keep DK in my hand if I get him? Especially against Cube builds?

It's all very tricky atm. Trying to build a deck to counter all the meta decks. I mulligen the quest away when facing Paladins. You don't need it against them.

I have Plated Beetles to fight aggro. I am thinking of changing them with Scalehide. Might be better. 

I might try doomsayer but I feel Hunters need to be proactive, even with a control build.

Mid-range actually causes the most trouble for me. That's the nature of the game and fine with it since I have decent chance against them. You can't beat them all!

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The new Hunter card Dire Frenzy is the first spell buff for Hunters in the game. Yes, we had some others, but this one is a direct buff, with a twist never seen before in Hearthstone. The card design is such that you should be able to built a deck around it, or at least try to. 

This got me wondering. What beast are suitable for such a deck? How will you draw said beast? And what will be your win condition? So I looked up some of the beast most suitable for Dire Frenzy and wanted to make a list and possible playstyles and outcomes along with it. 

Hunter Minions:

Scavenging Hyena - The first and most obvious choice for the buff. The advantage lies in the low mana cost as well the the potential for natural growth of the minion due to other beasts dying. With Dire Frenzy, the minion will be 2 mana 5/5, something your opponent will have major issue dealing with. With it's low mana cost, multiples can be played each turn. Mid-game 6 mana combo. 

Cave Hydra - 3 mana 5/7 after Dire Frenzy. With extra 2 health and the ability to take out multiple minions all by itself, Cave Hydra is an interesting choice. It cost more and does't scale like Hyena but it has insane board presence, allowing Hunter to go full control mode, but also able to deal face damage when the opportunity arises. Early late-game 7 mana combo.

Corpse Widow - An odd choice on the list, but the interesting bit is that it is a 7/9 after buff, while also having the ability to reduce cost of your deathrattle minions, mainly Savannah Highmane. Two 7/9s at turn 10 does't sound too shabby now. This one is a 9 mana combo, because your opponent will not be leaving it alive for you to buff it the next turn. 

Tundra Rhino - A horde of charging minions that give other beast charge? Sounds awesome! The problem with Tundra Rhino was always the low stats it boosted. But now it can be a 5/8 and you can have an army. 9 mana combo. A bit too slow.  

Savannah Highmane - The legendary, the king himself. 6 mana, 9/8 that summons two 2/2s. How many can your opponent remove? How many? The problem with Highmane is that you can only play one per turn, and that's where the limitation starts. The other issue is that it is a very late game play. Happening at the happy time of 10 mana crystal. Probably not feasible as Hunters. 

Queen Carnassa* - Quest Hunter might be a viable deck after the release of Toxmonger and Wing Blast. Toxmonger turns those useless 1 mana minions into deadly killers. All the while you clear the enemy board with pesky minions, the Quest will be in progress. Once completed, you can buff the Queen herself and create a super fatigue deck. With 8 Queens, hilarity in ensured. The issue will be viable deck, lots of theory crafting will be done. Exciting times ahead!

Neutral Minions:

Swamp Leech**** - The new addition to the beast family, 1 mana 2/1 Lifesteal. The problem is early game it's too weak and dies easily. Midgame it's a very interesting choice since it provide Hunter's some crucial healing. 

Dire Mole - The reason why this guy is on the list is because of Tol'vir Warden and to some extent, Quest. 1 mana 4/6 is a tough minion to beat. Not to mention the easy combo with Tundra Rhino. This combo alone might be able to make Quest Hunter work because Quest Hunter will not longer be drawing weak 1 mana minions. 5 mana combo. If you can hold your early game, you are in the driving seat with this guy at the stirring wheel.

Stonetusk Boar - A 1 mana 4/4 with charge is scary. Eight 1 mana 4/4s with charge is terrifying. They can also be drawn by Tol'vir Warden and work towards Quest Hunter. Also creates the possibility of an aggressive mid-range Hunter deck. If we know anything from Paladins, buffed 1/1s can be very dangerous. 5 mana combo. 

Young Dragonhawk* - I missed this guy, girl? In my initial list. But this one makes a lot of sense. It doesn't have charge like the Boars, but it does have widfury. Making it ideal for an OTK deck with Rhinos. It's better then Angry Chicken because you don't need to Enrage them. 

Vicious Scalehide****: The second beast added in the last cards in the upcoming WW expansion. This one is an interesting choice with lifesteal and rush. When buffed with Dire Frenzy, it's 4/6 lifesteal and rush, this makes it a very interesting target to buff. The issue will be draw, but with an all minion Dire Frenzy, it make an interesting target. 6 mana combo. 

King Mukla - I am not joking here. 3 mana 8/8 is crazy... You can apply a bit of a mill strategy too. 

Vicious Fledgling - Forgot about this guy? 3 mana 6/6. The issue is that it's an exposed target. The opponent can remove it easily. But if it stays, just one of these will win the game by itself. 7 mana combo though. So it's late. 

Arfus - ??? Naaa. 

Stranglethorn Tiger - My favorite on the list. The stealth makes it so that it survives into the next turn. Almost all the time. The beauty of this card is that it doesn't need to have the combo played on the same turn. You can drop him and wait to buff him the next turn. 5 mana 8/8 with stealth. You can drop one and cube it, then play the deathrattle activator and still have the cube in play to mitigate AoE. Except Psychic Scream of course. With this strategy, you will bombard the enemy with stealth minions they can't do anything about. Add in Tundra Rhino for immediate effect of the Tigers. 

Witchwood Grizzly****: Witchwood Grizzly will be an interesting beast to buff if you are going for a control Hunter deck. A proper control Hunter that is. 5 mana, 6/X (where X will be anywhere from 14-24 health) is an effing beast! This is a 9 mana combo, but due to the high health of the beast, you can expect it to live to the next turn. This will require some testing to understand the viability of the card. 

So that is my list of suitable beast for Dire Frenzy. There might be a few I missed and the new expansion might add more, so I will update the thread as possible. Also come up with some suitable decks. 

 

Possible Decks*:

 

Secret Hunter****:

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Minion (11) 1x Savannah Highmane 2x Spellbreaker 2x Crackling Razormaw 2x Dire Mole 2x Swamp Leech 2x Houndmaster	Ability (17) 1x Snake Trap 2x Lesser Emerald Spellstone 2x Tracking 2x Venomstrike Trap 2x Wandering Monster 2x Wing Blast 2x Animal Companion 2x Freezing Trap 2x Kill Command	Weapon (2) 2x Eaglehorn Bow
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The Secret Hunter deck with minions for WW, will be a decent deck for lower level of ranked play. 

The deck will be good against aggro and zoo decks. Might even take out control decks if you get good draws. The Spellstone pushes the deck but it will surely miss the great Cloaked Huntress for tempo. 

Swamp Leech will provide some necessary heals vs. a similar midrange deck or aggro deck. When buffed with Houndmaster it is a 4/3 with taunt. Providing some decent heals midgame. 

 

Verdict: Lower Tier 2 but most likely Tier 3 deck. However, it will provide quick ranking in the lower ranks. 

 

Young Dragonhawk OTK Deck:

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Minion (14) 2x Toxmonger 2x Tol'vir Warden 2x Cult Master 1x Young Dragonhawk 2x Elven Archer 2x Stitched Tracker 2x Stonetusk Boar 1x Tundra Rhino	Ability (13) 2x Rat Trap 2x Lesser Emerald Spellstone 2x Venomstrike Trap 2x Wandering Monster 2x Wing Blast 1x Unleash the Hounds 2x Dire Frenzy	Weapon (2) 2x Eaglehorn Bow	Playable Hero (1) 1x Deathstalker Rexxar
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Comes with lots of draw and removal. The combo pieces are simple. Get your Young Dragonhawk and Tundra Rhino. Go face. With three Young Dragonhawk you can do 3x4x2 + 2 = 26 damage, 8 mana combo. With 4, you do 4x4x2 + 2 = 34 damage. An OTK, only with 9 mana. If all fails, Mr. Deathknight to the rescue. Might add another Cult Master for more draw.

***Removed Tar Creeper, Hunter's Mark and Loot Hoarder, adding in Spellstone and Secret package as well as Stitched Tracker for better early board presence and more flexible draw. Added the second Cult Master due to early board presence and more chances of card draw. Now only using one Young Dragonhawk, since buff one will give you more anyways and you can buff those to get even more if you wish. You most likely need three max and some cases two.  

 

Quest Hunter: 

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Minion (20) 1x Prince Keleseth 2x Toxmonger 2x Tol'vir Warden 2x Cult Master 2x Argent Squire 2x Dire Mole 2x Elven Archer 1x Fire Fly 2x Ravencaller 2x Stonetusk Boar 2x Tundra Rhino	Ability (7) 1x The Marsh Queen 2x Wing Blast 2x Animal Companion 2x Dire Frenzy	Weapon (2) 2x Eaglehorn Bow	Playable Hero (1) 1x Deathstalker Rexxar
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Small minions. Removal. Draw. A buffed Queen. Charging broods. Fatigue deck. This one is very very interesting. Both the Queen and her brood can be buffed. Once buffed, you can start charging their face with Rhinos coming in. You don't need to worry about loosing minions with this deck. There just too many! Mr. Deathknight is here because he is only good Hunter legendary and probably one of the best legendaries ever. So I try to include him in every deck possible.

**Removed Jeweled Macaw for Stitched Tracker.

 

Jurassic Hunter****:

Jurassic Hunter Big Beast Hunter Deck by Ashaf306 - Apr 10, 2018 View Deck String Export to BBCode Export to Cockatrice Export to MarkDown Export to Html Clone this deck
Minion (16) 1x Houndmaster Shaw 1x Kathrena Winterwisp 1x King Krush 2x Charged Devilsaur 2x Carrion Drake 2x Seeping Oozeling 1x Terrorscale Stalker 2x Faerie Dragon 2x Silver Vanguard 2x Stitched Tracker	Ability (11) 2x Tracking 2x Wing Blast 1x Animal Companion 2x Dire Frenzy 2x Flanking Strike 2x Play Dead	Weapon (2) 2x Eaglehorn Bow	Playable Hero (1) 1x Deathstalker Rexxar
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The deck design is based around popping out big dinosaurs from your deck to eat your opponents face. But this time these beast will be bigger and more hungry with a certain frenzy spell casted on them. Dire Frenzy makes the deck viable since you will have multiple dinosaurs in your deck and potentially never run out of them (this is simply not true). With two Charged Devilsaur and King Krush, as well as 6 other buffed dinosaurs, you have a solid 9 dinos to recruit. Since you are recruiting them, they can all go face regardless of the limitations of the Charged Devilsaur. A free 10/10 hitting face doesn't sound too shabby. 

 

Verdict: The deck's performance will depend if the meta has silence minions in it (which seems like it will have due to Cubelock's popularity). High potential deck. Initially it will be a lower tier 3 or tier 4 deck. But due to it's potential, it might end up higher in the ranking as the meta progresses.

 

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* The first update to the list. 

** Second update.

*** Third update. 

****Forth update: Added WW beasts and two new decks Midrange Hunter and Jurassic Hunter.

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The new Hunter card Dire Frenzy is the first spell buff for Hunters in the game. Yes, we had some others, but this one is a direct buff, with a twist never seen before in Hearthstone. The card design is such that you should be able to built a deck around it, or at least try to. 

This got me wondering. What beast are suitable for such a deck? How will you draw said beast? And what will be your win condition? So I looked up some of the beast most suitable for Dire Frenzy and wanted to make a list and possible playstyles and outcomes along with it. 

Hunter Minions:

Scavenging Hyena - The first and most obvious choice for the buff. The advantage lies in the low mana cost as well the the potential for natural growth of the minion due to other beasts dying. With Dire Frenzy, the minion will be 2 mana 5/5, something your opponent will have major issue dealing with. With it's low mana cost, multiples can be played each turn. Mid-game 6 mana combo. 

Cave Hydra - 3 mana 5/7 after Dire Frenzy. With extra 2 health and the ability to take out multiple minions all by itself, Cave Hydra is an interesting choice. It cost more and does't scale like Hyena but it has insane board presence, allowing Hunter to go full control mode, but also able to deal face damage when the opportunity arises. Early late-game 7 mana combo.

Corpse Widow - An odd choice on the list, but the interesting bit is that it is a 7/9 after buff, while also having the ability to reduce cost of your deathrattle minions, mainly Savannah Highmane. Two 7/9s at turn 10 does't sound too shabby now. This one is a 9 mana combo, because your opponent will not be leaving it alive for you to buff it the next turn. 

Tundra Rhino - A horde of charging minions that give other beast charge? Sounds awesome! The problem with Tundra Rhino was always the low stats it boosted. But now it can be a 5/8 and you can have an army. 9 mana combo. A bit too slow.  

Savannah Highmane - The legendary, the king himself. 6 mana, 9/8 that summons two 2/2s. How many can your opponent remove? How many? The problem with Highmane is that you can only play one per turn, and that's where the limitation starts. The other issue is that it is a very late game play. Happening at the happy time of 10 mana crystal. Probably not feasible as Hunters. 

Queen Carnassa* - Quest Hunter might be a viable deck after the release of Toxmonger and Wing Blast. Toxmonger turns those useless 1 mana minions into deadly killers. All the while you clear the enemy board with pesky minions, the Quest will be in progress. Once completed, you can buff the Queen herself and create a super fatigue deck. With 8 Queens, hilarity in ensured. The issue will be viable deck, lots of theory crafting will be done. Exciting times ahead!

Neutral Minions:

Swamp Leech**** - The new addition to the beast family, 1 mana 2/1 Lifesteal. The problem is early game it's too weak and dies easily. Midgame it's a very interesting choice since it provide Hunter's some crucial healing. 

Dire Mole - The reason why this guy is on the list is because of Tol'vir Warden and to some extent, Quest. 1 mana 4/6 is a tough minion to beat. Not to mention the easy combo with Tundra Rhino. This combo alone might be able to make Quest Hunter work because Quest Hunter will not longer be drawing weak 1 mana minions. 5 mana combo. If you can hold your early game, you are in the driving seat with this guy at the stirring wheel.

Stonetusk Boar - A 1 mana 4/4 with charge is scary. Eight 1 mana 4/4s with charge is terrifying. They can also be drawn by Tol'vir Warden and work towards Quest Hunter. Also creates the possibility of an aggressive mid-range Hunter deck. If we know anything from Paladins, buffed 1/1s can be very dangerous. 5 mana combo. 

Young Dragonhawk* - I missed this guy, girl? In my initial list. But this one makes a lot of sense. It doesn't have charge like the Boars, but it does have widfury. Making it ideal for an OTK deck with Rhinos. It's better then Angry Chicken because you don't need to Enrage them. 

Vicious Scalehide****: The second beast added in the last cards in the upcoming WW expansion. This one is an interesting choice with lifesteal and rush. When buffed with Dire Frenzy, it's 4/6 lifesteal and rush, this makes it a very interesting target to buff. The issue will be draw, but with an all minion Dire Frenzy, it make an interesting target. 6 mana combo. 

King Mukla - I am not joking here. 3 mana 8/8 is crazy... You can apply a bit of a mill strategy too. 

Vicious Fledgling - Forgot about this guy? 3 mana 6/6. The issue is that it's an exposed target. The opponent can remove it easily. But if it stays, just one of these will win the game by itself. 7 mana combo though. So it's late. 

Arfus - ??? Naaa. 

Stranglethorn Tiger - My favorite on the list. The stealth makes it so that it survives into the next turn. Almost all the time. The beauty of this card is that it doesn't need to have the combo played on the same turn. You can drop him and wait to buff him the next turn. 5 mana 8/8 with stealth. You can drop one and cube it, then play the deathrattle activator and still have the cube in play to mitigate AoE. Except Psychic Scream of course. With this strategy, you will bombard the enemy with stealth minions they can't do anything about. Add in Tundra Rhino for immediate effect of the Tigers. 

Witchwood Grizzly****: Witchwood Grizzly will be an interesting beast to buff if you are going for a control Hunter deck. A proper control Hunter that is. 5 mana, 6/X (where X will be anywhere from 14-24 health) is an effing beast! This is a 9 mana combo, but due to the high health of the beast, you can expect it to live to the next turn. This will require some testing to understand the viability of the card. 

So that is my list of suitable beast for Dire Frenzy. There might be a few I missed and the new expansion might add more, so I will update the thread as possible. Also come up with some suitable decks. 

 

Possible Decks*:

 

Secret Hunter****:

Witchwood Midrange Hunter Midrange Hunter Deck by Ashaf306 - Apr 10, 2018 View Deck String Export to BBCode Export to Cockatrice Export to MarkDown Export to Html Clone this deck
Minion (11) 1x Savannah Highmane 2x Spellbreaker 2x Crackling Razormaw 2x Dire Mole 2x Swamp Leech 2x Houndmaster	Ability (17) 1x Snake Trap 2x Lesser Emerald Spellstone 2x Tracking 2x Venomstrike Trap 2x Wandering Monster 2x Wing Blast 2x Animal Companion 2x Freezing Trap 2x Kill Command	Weapon (2) 2x Eaglehorn Bow
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The Secret Hunter deck with minions for WW, will be a decent deck for lower level of ranked play. 

The deck will be good against aggro and zoo decks. Might even take out control decks if you get good draws. The Spellstone pushes the deck but it will surely miss the great Cloaked Huntress for tempo. 

Swamp Leech will provide some necessary heals vs. a similar midrange deck or aggro deck. When buffed with Houndmaster it is a 4/3 with taunt. Providing some decent heals midgame. 

 

Verdict: Lower Tier 2 but most likely Tier 3 deck. However, it will provide quick ranking in the lower ranks. 

 

Young Dragonhawk OTK Deck:

Flying Frenzy OTK Unknown Deck by Ashaf306 - Apr 5, 2018 View Deck String Export to BBCode Export to Cockatrice Export to MarkDown Export to Html Clone this deck
Minion (14) 2x Toxmonger 2x Tol'vir Warden 2x Cult Master 1x Young Dragonhawk 2x Elven Archer 2x Stitched Tracker 2x Stonetusk Boar 1x Tundra Rhino	Ability (13) 2x Rat Trap 2x Lesser Emerald Spellstone 2x Venomstrike Trap 2x Wandering Monster 2x Wing Blast 1x Unleash the Hounds 2x Dire Frenzy	Weapon (2) 2x Eaglehorn Bow	Playable Hero (1) 1x Deathstalker Rexxar
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Comes with lots of draw and removal. The combo pieces are simple. Get your Young Dragonhawk and Tundra Rhino. Go face. With three Young Dragonhawk you can do 3x4x2 + 2 = 26 damage, 8 mana combo. With 4, you do 4x4x2 + 2 = 34 damage. An OTK, only with 9 mana. If all fails, Mr. Deathknight to the rescue. Might add another Cult Master for more draw.

***Removed Tar Creeper, Hunter's Mark and Loot Hoarder, adding in Spellstone and Secret package as well as Stitched Tracker for better early board presence and more flexible draw. Added the second Cult Master due to early board presence and more chances of card draw. Now only using one Young Dragonhawk, since buff one will give you more anyways and you can buff those to get even more if you wish. You most likely need three max and some cases two.  

 

Quest Hunter: 

Dire Frenzy Quest Hunter Marsh Queen Hunter Deck by Ashaf306 - Apr 5, 2018 View Deck String Export to BBCode Export to Cockatrice Export to MarkDown Export to Html Clone this deck
Minion (20) 1x Prince Keleseth 2x Toxmonger 2x Tol'vir Warden 2x Cult Master 2x Argent Squire 2x Dire Mole 2x Elven Archer 1x Fire Fly 2x Ravencaller 2x Stonetusk Boar 2x Tundra Rhino	Ability (7) 1x The Marsh Queen 2x Wing Blast 2x Animal Companion 2x Dire Frenzy	Weapon (2) 2x Eaglehorn Bow	Playable Hero (1) 1x Deathstalker Rexxar
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Small minions. Removal. Draw. A buffed Queen. Charging broods. Fatigue deck. This one is very very interesting. Both the Queen and her brood can be buffed. Once buffed, you can start charging their face with Rhinos coming in. You don't need to worry about loosing minions with this deck. There just too many! Mr. Deathknight is here because he is only good Hunter legendary and probably one of the best legendaries ever. So I try to include him in every deck possible.

**Removed Jeweled Macaw for Stitched Tracker.

 

Jurassic Hunter****:

Jurassic Hunter Big Beast Hunter Deck by Ashaf306 - Apr 10, 2018 View Deck String Export to BBCode Export to Cockatrice Export to MarkDown Export to Html Clone this deck
Minion (16) 1x Houndmaster Shaw 1x Kathrena Winterwisp 1x King Krush 2x Charged Devilsaur 2x Carrion Drake 2x Seeping Oozeling 1x Terrorscale Stalker 2x Faerie Dragon 2x Silver Vanguard 2x Stitched Tracker	Ability (11) 2x Tracking 2x Wing Blast 1x Animal Companion 2x Dire Frenzy 2x Flanking Strike 2x Play Dead	Weapon (2) 2x Eaglehorn Bow	Playable Hero (1) 1x Deathstalker Rexxar
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The deck design is based around popping out big dinosaurs from your deck to eat your opponents face. But this time these beast will be bigger and more hungry with a certain frenzy spell casted on them. Dire Frenzy makes the deck viable since you will have multiple dinosaurs in your deck and potentially never run out of them (this is simply not true). With two Charged Devilsaur and King Krush, as well as 6 other buffed dinosaurs, you have a solid 9 dinos to recruit. Since you are recruiting them, they can all go face regardless of the limitations of the Charged Devilsaur. A free 10/10 hitting face doesn't sound too shabby. 

 

Verdict: The deck's performance will depend if the meta has silence minions in it (which seems like it will have due to Cubelock's popularity). High potential deck. Initially it will be a lower tier 3 or tier 4 deck. But due to it's potential, it might end up higher in the ranking as the meta progresses.

 

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* The first update to the list. 

** Second update.

*** Third update. 

****Forth update: Added WW beasts and two new decks Midrange Hunter and Jurassic Hunter.

 Hey! Looks like you are a really huge hunter fan :P   

I have been trying a new deck, at first a thought of it as a meme deck, but it is performing better than expected. Do you mind giving it a shot to check how bad it is? Any advice or comment will be amazing! :3

Dino Boars Unknown Deck by A_Flagrants - Apr 20, 2018 View Deck String Export to BBCode Export to Cockatrice Export to MarkDown Export to Html Clone this deck
Minion (17) 1x Emeriss 1x Leeroy Jenkins 1x Prince Keleseth 1x Mossy Horror 2x Mind Control Tech 2x Tol'vir Warden 2x Witchwood Piper 2x Acolyte of Pain 2x Cave Hydra 1x Corrosive Sludge 2x Stonetusk Boar	Ability (11) 1x Arcane Shot 2x Tracking 2x Unleash the Hounds 1x Deadly Shot 2x Dire Frenzy 2x Hunter's Mark 1x Kill Command	Weapon (1) 1x Candleshot	Playable Hero (1) 1x Deathstalker Rexxar
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Deathstalker Rexxar can actually overwhelm an opponent over time, and most of the bad beasts rotated out. Dire Frenzy is pretty value-oriented, but a decent hit with it and a way to draw it, (like Witchwood Piper) it can be really powerful. Here's a list I made, definitely room for replacements in the traps. I might add Cult Master later for help drawing like you suggested. Let me know what you think

Dire Dog Hunter Midrange Hunter Deck by toasty004 - Apr 15, 2018 View Deck String Export to BBCode Export to Cockatrice Export to MarkDown Export to Html Clone this deck
Minion (12) 2x Savannah Highmane 2x Witchwood Piper 1x Cult Master 2x Cave Hydra 1x Ironbeak Owl 2x Vicious Scalehide 2x Houndmaster	Ability (13) 2x Dinomancy 2x Tracking 2x Wandering Monster 1x Unleash the Hounds 2x Animal Companion 2x Dire Frenzy 2x Hunter's Mark	Weapon (4) 2x Eaglehorn Bow 2x Candleshot	Playable Hero (1) 1x Deathstalker Rexxar
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I am looking for Rexxar's new built a beast pool to make a fair judgement on the card because the results have been inconsistent. Most of the time I don't get a beast to answer my opponent. Maybe I need to show more faith in the beasts and just drop them on the board? All I know is that I am spending 2 mana to get a card that is sitting in hand and it messes up my plays. The health gain and AoE are beneficial from the card but I need to take some time to clear my head and make a fair assessment of Rexxar and other cards.

 

Your deck looks too focused on buffing. I don't believe dinomancy is a good card. Look at it this way, you spend 4 mana to give a beast +2/+2, with Dire Frenzy you give the minion +3/+3 and add 3 more to your deck for the same mana cost. The board doesn't have a beast all the time, something that should also be considered. A better buffer is Houndmaster. You get the +2/+2 just like from dinomancy AND a 4/3 with cool sound effects for the same mana cost. The guy win games. With your deck, the card is very valuable. 

 

I considered adding Piper and Hydra to my deck. The problem with Piper is the mana cost. 4 mana is loaded with Shaw, Strike and Cult Masters in my deck. Sometimes Houndmaster is also added. Hydra is something I might find room for. Seems good in a meta where Paladins are flooding the board. It is the best beast in build a beast right now, low cost and a heavy hitter. 

 Rexxar DK is a really slow card, the key to using him is in a deck that has other really high value minions and control tools (basically a control deck) to exhuast the opponents hand before you start building beasts. I find doomsayers work really well with the DK. Since the DK is fairly cheap, you can often drop the doomsayer on the same turn you transition into the DK to hopefully stall the opponent to give you the initiative to drop a zombeast on an empty board. If a control hunter deck is ever legit in standard, I presume doomsayers would be auto-includes.

 

 

Yeah, I see the power of Deathstalker right now. Using it in my Quest Hunter deck. He is doing pretty good! The deck overall is doing good. I do have some issues and need to change a few cards here and there. It's one of the most fun deck I have played. 

The deck does really well against the meta decks of Paladins. I am somewhat getting to control Cubelock too with the addition of Harrison. 

The main issue I have is that current control Hunter decks are relying too much on DK. Decks like Cubedruid get out of hand really fast. Keeping the tools to control them is difficult due to lack of reliable draw. Cult Master's do the job but only if you have a proper setup. And even with draw you might lack the one drops for Toxmonger. Trying to find DK to stabilize is the main goal of my QH deck right now. Once the Queen comes into gameplay, things get interesting really fast. You can Toxmonger the entire brood. The quest gets completed around turn 7-8, which is fair enough I believe, as you go around controlling the board before that.

Should I always keep DK in my hand if I get him? Especially against Cube builds?

It's all very tricky atm. Trying to build a deck to counter all the meta decks. I mulligen the quest away when facing Paladins. You don't need it against them.

I have Plated Beetles to fight aggro. I am thinking of changing them with Scalehide. Might be better. 

I might try doomsayer but I feel Hunters need to be proactive, even with a control build.

Mid-range actually causes the most trouble for me. That's the nature of the game and fine with it since I have decent chance against them. You can't beat them all!

 If your deck is proactive, you don't keep the DK in mulligan. However, against really reactive decks like control priest/warrior, for example, you keep the DK since they don't pressure you much and they can easily exhuast all of your threats if you don't DK early on.
Decks like spell hunter that is fairly reactive would keep the DK in a lot of matchups (except cubelocks, DK is a losing play there, however after losing N'zoth, the DK does a lot better against them.)
Doomsayers fit in reactive hunter decks like spell hunter (its just that they can't include it because of Rhok'delar) and my deck for example. Savjz also made a control hunter deck that is similar to spell hunter but without the weapon so that he could include minions like doomsayers, stitch trackers, and Azalina as a form of card generation tool against other control decks.  The thing with doomsayers, similar to board clears that harm both sides of the board, you're the one that gets to control when to use it to benefit you the most, that's why that card is one of the best anti-aggro tools in the game for all these years.
My control hunter deck in wild also does bad against midrange decks lol, but that's just the nature of the game, midrange>control>aggro.

 

I do not add Harrison cause I don't have it xP I added the corrosive since it has a better body to fight the board at turn 5-6, if I had Harrison, he would be there.
I found Tol'vir Warden to be really good to get buffed boars, since they are the only 1 drops, he works good, I haven't found a better way to go through the deck faster. I thought about Cult master too, actually I played with him at first but the deck doesn't have enough minions to trade, usually unleash is played on the first turns to fight against the early aggro pressure. Most of the time I only get one card from him :(
I never thought about Cave Hydra ! Kobolds switched already lol

I think the combo is just not possible with the current cards. I can think about a more mid-range or aggro approach, but then the combo will be lost T_T

Thanks a lo for the feedback! I will try to get a >50% wr, right now it's a little below that >.< Let you know if a succeed.

Hunter will never be able to play combo decks because they lack consistent card draw. Blizzard can design a high cost card draw for Hunters to counter it from being included in aggro decks but they don't want to. This results in a severe lack of possible builds for Hunter. Countess Ashmore exist but she doesn't have taunt and the main reason why she is not played. 

The QH deck I am playing has such intense power level if I draw my cards. I literally become unbeatable during late game. Cubelock? Cubedruid? Big Mage? Elemental Mage? Spiteful decks? No worries. They have unlimited health? No worries. I have unlimited damage. The Deathstalker Rexxar and Queen Carnassa combo is game breaking. Toxmonger is a such a beautiful card, "give your 1 drops unlimited attack power against minions". Absolutely brilliant design. 

I also have a good chance against a lot of aggro decks. Since I'm a Hunter and naturally aggressive, I can wreck their faces. Need to play carefully and against control decks, get a good Cult Master and everything is in motion. 

Unfortunately, sometimes the card draw doesn't work out and it breaks my game plan. Trying to counter it by adding in Loot Hoarder. Hope it performs well. 

Thinking of adding Sea Giant in the deck. I think it can work with the number of minions on board in a normal game.