That's because they have really good draw and board control. So the only way to stop it, is by either being aggro like face hunter, or just fight harder for it, and always have a good taunt like Belcher to protect yourself.
That's because they have really good draw and board control. So the only way to stop it, is by either being aggro like face hunter, or just fight harder for it, and always have a good taunt like Belcher to protect yourself.
I don't mind druid because...well...even though they have a lot of unfair BS they can pull off, I understand the ins and outs of the deck and there are a lot of things you can exploit when facing them. Druids have terrible large single target and mid range AOE options, so generally they can't swing a game all that easily. Shades can be drawn out with aggression or fall to most every AOE. Combo is 14 damage (16 with living roots, 22 with double roar, add attack of creature and 2 attack for each creature on the board), so you can often try to get your life total out of their range and building a board is fairly easy unless they can keep up drop for drop (in which case they likely don't have the necessary combo pieces to burst you down).
Druid is the worst-designed class in the game (yes, shaman and rogue are in a bad place right now, but that's a tuning problem, not a fundamental design problem). Druid has been the stalest class in constructed for a long, long time. The druid lists that are popular right now are fundamentally the exact same decks that were popular before Naxxramas came out. The worst part is that I don't think Blizzard can fix this; FoN + Savage Roar is so strong that there's no reason not to build every druid deck around it. And so every druid deck throws a bunch of garbage at the opponent's face and then flails around for a while trying to draw into the combo. It's miserable to play, and it's tedious to play against.
Simple answer is ancient of lore. the sole purpose for it is really to draw into combo. Doesn't need to be nerfed, and neither does combo, it's not consistent enough and is a bit harder to all of than most. Nothing here to really QQ about.
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I returned to this game much like how a recovering alcoholic can relapse.
The way I see it, Patron simply has more draw and more combo reach. My Druid deck is actually soo outdated it still has our value lord and savior: Spectral Knight.. which ironically is hilarious to watch Patron try to deal with, but it's still not enough
EDIT: I also forgot to mention the double armorsmith plays because armor for days!
That's because they have really good draw and board control. So the only way to stop it, is by either being aggro like face hunter, or just fight harder for it, and always have a good taunt like Belcher to protect yourself.
Simple answer is ancient of lore. the sole purpose for it is really to draw into combo. Doesn't need to be nerfed, and neither does combo, it's not consistent enough and is a bit harder to all of than most. Nothing here to really QQ about.
This. Druids pretty fair imo. I have about 300 wins on druid, couldnt hit legend on it but could with easier decks. And only once out of those 300 wins did i ever get to FON SR INNERVATE SR combo (Thats the truly broken version of the combo not the normal fon, sr). Its not me, druids one of my most played classes, and im not too retarded i usually finish legend in a decent spot. (Can never get druid to legend but i do well with it once i get there? lol) I honestly dont know why this is a thread.
If anything my most favorite comment here, is the list the guy made complaining about the types of decks for all the classes. Didnt see if he was kidding but thats like the jist of this game, everyone thinks everything that they DONT use, is broken or op. If you gather up all the complaints people in this game make you would have hundreds for every archtype for each class. Everyone always thinks everything besides what they play is trash/unfair/op/cancer.
Druid has weaknesses to, like the crappiest removal options in the game. Everyone looks at classes and thinks everything is peaches and cream only looking at the strong points. I play all the classes, and they're all fine except for shaman which does truly suck. Maybe that is why no one complains about shaman, cause it sucks? With some of the stupid nerf suggestions in this and similar threads, it seems some want every other class to also suck.
Yeah I've played druid to legend quite a few times but I absolutely hate playing against druid. The two only things I hate playing against are combo druids and any mage with secrets.
Darnassus by 2, early ramp, combo by 9. They always have combo by 9, somehow, magically they do.
I like how everyone is annoyed by patron or paladins, but somehow people aren't annoyed by the bullshit druids pull off time and time again.
im just a turtle...on a boat.
That's because they have really good draw and board control. So the only way to stop it, is by either being aggro like face hunter, or just fight harder for it, and always have a good taunt like Belcher to protect yourself.
Victory or Death!
Everyone is annoyed by everything. Just in different moments)
As for me, yesterday i was annoyed by secret pally. Today - by Druid too. So I'm kinda agree with you. Today. Yeah.
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Really good card draw?
Yes, either from Wrath or Ancient of Lore. It's pretty good.
Victory or Death!
I don't mind druid because...well...even though they have a lot of unfair BS they can pull off, I understand the ins and outs of the deck and there are a lot of things you can exploit when facing them. Druids have terrible large single target and mid range AOE options, so generally they can't swing a game all that easily. Shades can be drawn out with aggression or fall to most every AOE. Combo is 14 damage (16 with living roots, 22 with double roar, add attack of creature and 2 attack for each creature on the board), so you can often try to get your life total out of their range and building a board is fairly easy unless they can keep up drop for drop (in which case they likely don't have the necessary combo pieces to burst you down).
Druid card draw pales in comparison to Grim Patron Warrior. Its not even close.
It's decent, far from ''good''.
Sorry dude ..... *going to play even more druid* . You should try to play more face(agro decks) , maybe you can out damage them
I do not study the DIVINE to imitate what they do
I study the DIVINE to imitate what they ARE
Druid is the worst-designed class in the game (yes, shaman and rogue are in a bad place right now, but that's a tuning problem, not a fundamental design problem). Druid has been the stalest class in constructed for a long, long time. The druid lists that are popular right now are fundamentally the exact same decks that were popular before Naxxramas came out. The worst part is that I don't think Blizzard can fix this; FoN + Savage Roar is so strong that there's no reason not to build every druid deck around it. And so every druid deck throws a bunch of garbage at the opponent's face and then flails around for a while trying to draw into the combo. It's miserable to play, and it's tedious to play against.
Simple answer is ancient of lore. the sole purpose for it is really to draw into combo. Doesn't need to be nerfed, and neither does combo, it's not consistent enough and is a bit harder to all of than most. Nothing here to really QQ about.
I returned to this game much like how a recovering alcoholic can relapse.
The way I see it, Patron simply has more draw and more combo reach. My Druid deck is actually soo outdated it still has our value lord and savior: Spectral Knight.. which ironically is hilarious to watch Patron try to deal with, but it's still not enough
EDIT: I also forgot to mention the double armorsmith plays because armor for days!
If it weren't for the 9 turn combo druid woulda be really weak honestly, it's his only way to finish a game as fast as possible.
face hunter is bad against druid.
This. Druids pretty fair imo. I have about 300 wins on druid, couldnt hit legend on it but could with easier decks. And only once out of those 300 wins did i ever get to FON SR INNERVATE SR combo (Thats the truly broken version of the combo not the normal fon, sr). Its not me, druids one of my most played classes, and im not too retarded i usually finish legend in a decent spot. (Can never get druid to legend but i do well with it once i get there? lol) I honestly dont know why this is a thread.
If anything my most favorite comment here, is the list the guy made complaining about the types of decks for all the classes. Didnt see if he was kidding but thats like the jist of this game, everyone thinks everything that they DONT use, is broken or op. If you gather up all the complaints people in this game make you would have hundreds for every archtype for each class. Everyone always thinks everything besides what they play is trash/unfair/op/cancer.
Druid has weaknesses to, like the crappiest removal options in the game. Everyone looks at classes and thinks everything is peaches and cream only looking at the strong points. I play all the classes, and they're all fine except for shaman which does truly suck. Maybe that is why no one complains about shaman, cause it sucks? With some of the stupid nerf suggestions in this and similar threads, it seems some want every other class to also suck.
Haha so true! Yesterday I had to stop playing my combo Druid deck...because I kept getting back-to-back tempo mages. It was not pretty :(
Yeah I've played druid to legend quite a few times but I absolutely hate playing against druid. The two only things I hate playing against are combo druids and any mage with secrets.
Druids do have removal options like Naturalize and Mulch. At turn 10 you can FoN+SR while taking out a large taunt (except Belcher)
Tempo mage wrecks druid, there's nothing to properly play around mirror entity.