On his first turn, he plays embiggen + Breath of Dreams that procs.
What do you do? Concede or something else? Bonus points for explaining which deck you are.
If I'm playing face hunter hopefully I'll have mulliganned for toxic reinforcements and played it at this point, so I just button and pass. Big minions don't matter if you're dead or near dead by the time you can play them.
If I'm playing gala rogue I'll have tried to mulligan for big value early game with questing adventurer or edwin. It sucks that I don't have the coin, but ideally i will have my 1/1 pirate that generates two more 1/1 pirates and shadowstep. Embiggen druid doesn't run removal outside of swipe (I guess oasis surger as well but that's quite expensive to play if its not in the starting hand prior to embiggen being used) so I should be able to get away with playing the early adventurer on 3 (or a decent eddy on turn 5) and making it massive in the next few turns. Again, the key to beating embiggen druid is amassing as much early game pressure as possible. You do that and the embiggen on turn 1 can actually work against your opponent and make it more difficult for them to get minions on board in time to regain control of the board.
Well, typically if im against another druid, i will try to get/keep Strength In Numbers, so i'd play that turn one, he'd coin embigg and dragonbreath, and I'd focus on completing the quest asap. Hopefully playing my own embigg and/or dragon breath asap. Though I've won mirror when they had the best opening(as you suggested), without ever drawing my own embigg. Though only if I curve out. So i guess its hard to say what exactly I'd do if that was their turn 1. Cause most of my gameplan is entirely based on my own mulligan.
I've been playing aggressive decks, treedruid and hunters, so if they get the early embiggen I just go as hard as possible. Its possible to build a great board and clear the "early game" they have and end it with them only getting 1 big taunt out. Getting soul of the Forrest onto 3 or 4 minions is a big deal, but a lot of these druids will let you build wide boards for some reason.
Since I play control warrior it isn't harder than anything else.
Control warrior is absolutely the best deck right now with good matchups across the board. People just don't play it because the games take way longer than normal and people wanna rank up fast. Hence why the retarded face decks are so popular. People have the patience and attention span of a refrigerator.
First of all, if he plays Coin plus Breath on turn one, I'd always play it out, because the guy is an idiot. Even with the breath, the coin is better use if held past turn 3.
But as to the substance of your question, if the guy opens with Embiggen plus Breath of Dreams and I'm playing anything but Full Face Gally Warrior or Zoo Lock or something equally aggressive, I concede.
I'm not for this behavior usually, but the winrate on his part at that point is so ungodly high, I honestly think if you are trying to hit high legend ranks or whatever rank cutoff you like, you are better served saving the time. You just won't be able to do anything more than about 5% of the time.
If you're not uber-concerned about your finishing rank, it's still frustrating, but by all means, shoot for the stars.
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That Control fist shaman deck that's popular is hella fun and also punks big drood hard (murloc plague, hex, earth shock, earthquake, scheme and the spells from hagatha etc.).
I've found it's a fun deck that can handle a lot of things and while crazy on dust, has some very acceptable substitutes for cards to bring the budget way down.
Playing control-galakrond warlock, if that happens to me I mumble a "duck you rngesus" to myself and keep playing the game. I found that if you have enough removal/answers to get to the point where they only play one large minion per turn you can overpower them eventually. I have a positive winrate against them, although with that starting-handing on their site I would certainly need a good starting hand myself.
Since I play control warrior it isn't harder than anything else.
Control warrior is absolutely the best deck right now with good matchups across the board. People just don't play it because the games take way longer than normal and people wanna rank up fast. Hence why the ******** face decks are so popular. People have the patience and attention span of a refrigerator.
What version are you playing if you don't mind me asking? Standard mec version or highlander? I found it to be hard at times to compete with all the value rogue generates when I was playing different versions of controlwarrior, and since you are facing a lot of gala-rogues on the ladder right now I eventually stopped playing cw, but maybe I'll give it another shot.
I don't know which rank you're playing at, but his turn 8 was incredibly dumb. If he counted right, he would've known you could trade away his minions. He should've attacked a whelp with his HP, instead of going face.
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I don't know which rank you're playing at, but his turn 8 was incredibly dumb. If he counted right, he would've known you could trade away his minions. He should've attacked a whelp with his HP, instead of going face.
I completely agree, I think he forgot about the reborn on his Winged Guardian. It happened at rank 4, and if there's something I've learned through the years is that you're bound to find dumb plays no matter the rank lol.
For example, you can also see from the replay that he threw away an Embiggen in the mulligan.
You are facing a Embiggen Druid Deck.
He goes second and gets the coin.
On his first turn, he plays embiggen + Breath of Dreams that procs.
What do you do? Concede or something else? Bonus points for explaining which deck you are.
Zoolock have a good winrate against Embiggen druid.
Today I made an hybrid zoohandlock deck and won 50%+ of matches against druid. Plague of flames fucks that Big dragons. :)
Embiggen druid is stupid, but aggro decks are for losers
If I'm playing face hunter hopefully I'll have mulliganned for toxic reinforcements and played it at this point, so I just button and pass. Big minions don't matter if you're dead or near dead by the time you can play them.
If I'm playing gala rogue I'll have tried to mulligan for big value early game with questing adventurer or edwin. It sucks that I don't have the coin, but ideally i will have my 1/1 pirate that generates two more 1/1 pirates and shadowstep. Embiggen druid doesn't run removal outside of swipe (I guess oasis surger as well but that's quite expensive to play if its not in the starting hand prior to embiggen being used) so I should be able to get away with playing the early adventurer on 3 (or a decent eddy on turn 5) and making it massive in the next few turns. Again, the key to beating embiggen druid is amassing as much early game pressure as possible. You do that and the embiggen on turn 1 can actually work against your opponent and make it more difficult for them to get minions on board in time to regain control of the board.
Playing pure galakrande rogue and went 4/4 today against enbiggen druid, 1 that hirolled with embiggen X2 quest breath.
It's hardly and unbeatable deck. I played it for a bit and it gets rolled by Gary alot and highlander decks.
Well, typically if im against another druid, i will try to get/keep Strength In Numbers, so i'd play that turn one, he'd coin embigg and dragonbreath, and I'd focus on completing the quest asap. Hopefully playing my own embigg and/or dragon breath asap. Though I've won mirror when they had the best opening(as you suggested), without ever drawing my own embigg. Though only if I curve out. So i guess its hard to say what exactly I'd do if that was their turn 1. Cause most of my gameplan is entirely based on my own mulligan.
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I'd win the mirror. Duh.
And yet, your salt indicates that you were the loser, to many aggro decks.
I've been playing aggressive decks, treedruid and hunters, so if they get the early embiggen I just go as hard as possible. Its possible to build a great board and clear the "early game" they have and end it with them only getting 1 big taunt out. Getting soul of the Forrest onto 3 or 4 minions is a big deal, but a lot of these druids will let you build wide boards for some reason.
Since I play control warrior it isn't harder than anything else.
Control warrior is absolutely the best deck right now with good matchups across the board. People just don't play it because the games take way longer than normal and people wanna rank up fast. Hence why the retarded face decks are so popular. People have the patience and attention span of a refrigerator.
Malygos rogue here. Just play my game. I have good odds against any druid and i never concede. Even in this type of situation, you have chance to win.
First of all, if he plays Coin plus Breath on turn one, I'd always play it out, because the guy is an idiot. Even with the breath, the coin is better use if held past turn 3.
But as to the substance of your question, if the guy opens with Embiggen plus Breath of Dreams and I'm playing anything but Full Face Gally Warrior or Zoo Lock or something equally aggressive, I concede.
I'm not for this behavior usually, but the winrate on his part at that point is so ungodly high, I honestly think if you are trying to hit high legend ranks or whatever rank cutoff you like, you are better served saving the time. You just won't be able to do anything more than about 5% of the time.
If you're not uber-concerned about your finishing rank, it's still frustrating, but by all means, shoot for the stars.
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Well, my Quest Albatross Res Priest has no problem with Embiggen Druid :-) Token Druid is much harder :-D
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What if I tell you I'm a control deck main, and they are way easier to play than agro ones.
*surprised pikatchu face*
Don't concede, you can still win.
Just the other day, I was playing Highlander hunter and my opponent went turn 1 Embiggen, turn 2 Breath of Dreams, turn 3 Strength in Numbers and I still won.
https://hsreplay.net/replay/oTB5cd2x8WsVqYyN4mA6rR
That Control fist shaman deck that's popular is hella fun and also punks big drood hard (murloc plague, hex, earth shock, earthquake, scheme and the spells from hagatha etc.).
I've found it's a fun deck that can handle a lot of things and while crazy on dust, has some very acceptable substitutes for cards to bring the budget way down.
Playing control-galakrond warlock, if that happens to me I mumble a "duck you rngesus" to myself and keep playing the game. I found that if you have enough removal/answers to get to the point where they only play one large minion per turn you can overpower them eventually. I have a positive winrate against them, although with that starting-handing on their site I would certainly need a good starting hand myself.
What version are you playing if you don't mind me asking? Standard mec version or highlander? I found it to be hard at times to compete with all the value rogue generates when I was playing different versions of controlwarrior, and since you are facing a lot of gala-rogues on the ladder right now I eventually stopped playing cw, but maybe I'll give it another shot.
I don't know which rank you're playing at, but his turn 8 was incredibly dumb. If he counted right, he would've known you could trade away his minions. He should've attacked a whelp with his HP, instead of going face.
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I beat today two Embigen Druids, who drew all the key cards with Galakront Rogue.
1. Heisbaron Togwaggle -> Discovering Legendaries -> Deathwing https://hsreplay.net/replay/fXHdu3SZwaGjbh7wQDZUwm
2. Second-time big Edwin protected by taunt minions. https://hsreplay.net/replay/ppHd6LWhA2q7GMSfAmNadQ
My main strategy is Go wide and pray for Flik.
I completely agree, I think he forgot about the reborn on his Winged Guardian. It happened at rank 4, and if there's something I've learned through the years is that you're bound to find dumb plays no matter the rank lol.
For example, you can also see from the replay that he threw away an Embiggen in the mulligan.