I'm definitely thinking Jade Spirit wont be good enough against aggro and Jade Idol will be better against slow decks but I feel that I'll lack draw if i don't get the Gadgetzan Auctioneer or aggro will steamroll me hence Dirty Rat
anyone have any ideas about pirate warrior because that's what I'm worried about
Yeah, Dirty rat might not be a bad call. If it's good against aggro, Yay! and against control you play it late game after you have a big jade golem out and use the golem to kill their threat (if it's rag or something)
I'm going for a Ramp like Druid setup, and I can't wait to test the deck out this Thursday! I will make changes I'm sure, but I like the core list so far. Any feedback or tips are welcome
Okay, Here's Maly Jade... The interesting thing about it I think is that with ramping up jade golems, you can use the malygos package to just remove big target's if you don't have lethal... So you have the have the flexibility to choose Malygos or Jade Golems as an end game. The hope is that the golems will help take care of midrange and aggro decks. The other benefit of the deck is that although you can use the malygos combo for OTK, against certain matchup's you can completely ignore that and use your burn to help with removal... (not that you can't do that with current malygos, but I think it's a bit more robust here.) Not sure if it makes sense to use malygos in it, but I felt like if you add the cheap spells for draw with gadgetzan than you're already 96.67% of the way there to malygos
It may be controversial to remove Fandral, but I figure he is there for value, and in this deck the value game is jade golems, so he's not strictly necessary.
Okay, Here's Maly Jade... The interesting thing about it I think is that with ramping up jade golems, you can use the malygos package to just remove big target's if you don't have lethal... So you have the have the flexibility to choose Malygos or Jade Golems as an end game. The hope is that the golems will help take care of midrange and aggro decks. The other benefit of the deck is that although you can use the malygos combo for OTK, against certain matchup's you can completely ignore that and use your burn to help with removal... (not that you can't do that with current malygos, but I think it's a bit more robust here.) Not sure if it makes sense to use malygos in it, but I felt like if you add the cheap spells for draw with gadgetzan than you're already 96.67% of the way there to malygos
It may be controversial to remove Fandral, but I figure he is there for value, and in this deck the value game is jade golems, so he's not strictly necessary.
Edit: depending on wheter it's needed I might cut the jade spirit for Fandral.
I like your list, but I would drop a Gadgetzan Auctioneer for Fandral Staghelm. I don't think there will be a need for two Auctioneers, and I think this list will perform well on the ladder :)
P.S. Also, I think Wild Growth is also not needed with the new Jade Blossom...it will need testing, but I think it will be nice to make room for other cards instead of Wild Growth
Okay, Here's Maly Jade... The interesting thing about it I think is that with ramping up jade golems, you can use the malygos package to just remove big target's if you don't have lethal... So you have the have the flexibility to choose Malygos or Jade Golems as an end game. The hope is that the golems will help take care of midrange and aggro decks. The other benefit of the deck is that although you can use the malygos combo for OTK, against certain matchup's you can completely ignore that and use your burn to help with removal... (not that you can't do that with current malygos, but I think it's a bit more robust here.) Not sure if it makes sense to use malygos in it, but I felt like if you add the cheap spells for draw with gadgetzan than you're already 96.67% of the way there to malygos
It may be controversial to remove Fandral, but I figure he is there for value, and in this deck the value game is jade golems, so he's not strictly necessary.
Edit: depending on wheter it's needed I might cut the jade spirit for Fandral.
I like your list, but I would drop a Gadgetzan Auctioneer for Fandral Staghelm. I don't think there will be a need for two Auctioneers, and I think this list will perform well on the ladder :)
P.S. Also, I think Wild Growth is also not needed with the new Jade Blossom...it will need testing, but I think it will be nice to make room for other cards instead of Wild Growth
That is a good consideration! thanks! I will remove one gadgetzan - if testing shows I need the burst draw earlier I'll add him back in at that time. One reason I didn't remove the wild growths is this list doesn't have the mire keeper... I wanted to keep a similar amount of ramp. and mire keeper is very powerful in that you can use the 3/3 2/2 combo in certain situations... I'm just not sure how I'd fit him back in. I'll go ahead and make the fandral change though.
Okay, Here's Maly Jade... The interesting thing about it I think is that with ramping up jade golems, you can use the malygos package to just remove big target's if you don't have lethal... So you have the have the flexibility to choose Malygos or Jade Golems as an end game. The hope is that the golems will help take care of midrange and aggro decks. The other benefit of the deck is that although you can use the malygos combo for OTK, against certain matchup's you can completely ignore that and use your burn to help with removal... (not that you can't do that with current malygos, but I think it's a bit more robust here.) Not sure if it makes sense to use malygos in it, but I felt like if you add the cheap spells for draw with gadgetzan than you're already 96.67% of the way there to malygos
It may be controversial to remove Fandral, but I figure he is there for value, and in this deck the value game is jade golems, so he's not strictly necessary.
Edit: depending on wheter it's needed I might cut the jade spirit for Fandral.
I like your list, but I would drop a Gadgetzan Auctioneer for Fandral Staghelm. I don't think there will be a need for two Auctioneers, and I think this list will perform well on the ladder :)
P.S. Also, I think Wild Growth is also not needed with the new Jade Blossom...it will need testing, but I think it will be nice to make room for other cards instead of Wild Growth
That is a good consideration! thanks! I will remove one gadgetzan - if testing shows I need the burst draw earlier I'll add him back in at that time. One reason I didn't remove the wild growths is this list doesn't have the mire keeper... I wanted to keep a similar amount of ramp. and mire keeper is very powerful in that you can use the 3/3 2/2 combo in certain situations... I'm just not sure how I'd fit him back in. I'll go ahead and make the fandral change though.
Oh I see, and maybe the Mire Keeper can take the place of the two Wild Growth...yep testing will be needed, but I hope the Malygos Druid can still perform on the ladder after the new expan is out.
This list will have many threats to deal with, and Malygos can be the cherry on top!
Okay, Here's Maly Jade... The interesting thing about it I think is that with ramping up jade golems, you can use the malygos package to just remove big target's if you don't have lethal... So you have the have the flexibility to choose Malygos or Jade Golems as an end game. The hope is that the golems will help take care of midrange and aggro decks. The other benefit of the deck is that although you can use the malygos combo for OTK, against certain matchup's you can completely ignore that and use your burn to help with removal... (not that you can't do that with current malygos, but I think it's a bit more robust here.) Not sure if it makes sense to use malygos in it, but I felt like if you add the cheap spells for draw with gadgetzan than you're already 96.67% of the way there to malygos
It may be controversial to remove Fandral, but I figure he is there for value, and in this deck the value game is jade golems, so he's not strictly necessary.
Edit: depending on wheter it's needed I might cut the jade spirit for Fandral.
I like your list, but I would drop a Gadgetzan Auctioneer for Fandral Staghelm. I don't think there will be a need for two Auctioneers, and I think this list will perform well on the ladder :)
P.S. Also, I think Wild Growth is also not needed with the new Jade Blossom...it will need testing, but I think it will be nice to make room for other cards instead of Wild Growth
That is a good consideration! thanks! I will remove one gadgetzan - if testing shows I need the burst draw earlier I'll add him back in at that time. One reason I didn't remove the wild growths is this list doesn't have the mire keeper... I wanted to keep a similar amount of ramp. and mire keeper is very powerful in that you can use the 3/3 2/2 combo in certain situations... I'm just not sure how I'd fit him back in. I'll go ahead and make the fandral change though.
Oh I see, and maybe the Mire Keeper can take the place of the two Wild Growth...yep testing will be needed, but I hope the Malygos Druid can still perform on the ladder after the new expan is out.
This list will have many threats to deal with, and Malygos can be the cherry on top!
definitely... The other reason I went with 2 Jade blossom and 2 Wild growth, is that all 4 are draw a card at ten mana (about turn 6-8), not only that jade blossom is draw a card and play a golem, which is pretty sweet. and I do believe this deck wants extra card draw because it never has to worry about fatigue. but yeah, mire keeper might go back in I'll just have to see. Maybe even for Jade Sprit if that turns out to not really be needed.
So turn ten could look like - Gadgetzan, Jade Blossom, excess mana, innervate innervate, jade idol, jade idol, etc... That's also why 2 gadgetzans might be the correct call.... you can't have too much draw in this deck. But I do agree that maybe 2 is too clunky vs aggro.
I guess you really want to go full combo and ignore the other Jade cards completely. I wonder how reliable you can abuse the Auctioneer, since you have almost no ways to really protect it.
If you want to go full combo, you technically only need like one Auctioneer and one Jade Idol. The rest of the deck could then be built around ramp, draw and removal.
If you want to go full combo, you technically only need like one Auctioneer and one Jade Idol. The rest of the deck could then be built around ramp, draw and removal.
Its not a OTK deck. You need the first auctioneer to cycle through your deck and you definitely want a Jade card earlier than the last card.
I guess you really want to go full combo and ignore the other Jade cards completely. I wonder how reliable you can abuse the Auctioneer, since you have almost no ways to really protect it.
That is what I was actually thought, except that Aya can be essential for late game. Also Bloodmage Thalnos can be much better early game against aggro than Sunfury Protector (with 5-2 swipe for 6 mana)
Hey guys, my version plays very similarly to miracle rogue, pretty much every minion is a good barnes target and I think that Baron Geddon is going to be a must just because of this particular card named Rat Pack (probably one of the strongest card of the set), killing Rat Pack on turn 3 and hitting Baron Geddon with barnes of turn 4 is game winning.
No doubt, the list will change to accommodate some anti-meta cards, but I'm going to experiment with it at its purest, for the first couple of weeks.
Jade Idol is fuel for days bro, you can play auctioneer in this deck, no worries. I'd swap Cenarius and both Wisps for 02 auctioneers and Soul of the Forest, too much aoe has been introduced to the game I feel. Power of the Wild is also better than mark for its versatility, the extra mana will be irrelevant since you're running all the ramp. Solid list, will test for sure.
I guess you really want to go full combo and ignore the other Jade cards completely. I wonder how reliable you can abuse the Auctioneer, since you have almost no ways to really protect it.
That is what I was actually thought, except that Aya can be essential for late game. Also Bloodmage Thalnos can be much better early game against aggro than Sunfury Protector (with 5-2 swipe for 6 mana)
Thalnos is a reasonable addition, but what to cut? Maybe a Raven Idol I guess. Id definitely keep the Sunfurys, because they help you in the early game, but also protect you in the lategame from getting smorct.
Now i was thinking about something, in a great deal of Maly Druid games you end up drawing almost if not all your deck, so what if you were to replace the Malygos+Moonfire package with Gadgetzan Auctioneer+Jade Idol.
The plan is to keep the board in check, apply pressure with Arcane Giants and Violet Teachers and draw as much as you can, at the end you start pushing jade golems with auctioneer.
Here's my attempt at a Jade Token deck:
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I'm going for a Ramp like Druid setup, and I can't wait to test the deck out this Thursday! I will make changes I'm sure, but I like the core list so far. Any feedback or tips are welcome
Okay, Here's Maly Jade... The interesting thing about it I think is that with ramping up jade golems, you can use the malygos package to just remove big target's if you don't have lethal... So you have the have the flexibility to choose Malygos or Jade Golems as an end game. The hope is that the golems will help take care of midrange and aggro decks. The other benefit of the deck is that although you can use the malygos combo for OTK, against certain matchup's you can completely ignore that and use your burn to help with removal... (not that you can't do that with current malygos, but I think it's a bit more robust here.) Not sure if it makes sense to use malygos in it, but I felt like if you add the cheap spells for draw with gadgetzan than you're already 96.67% of the way there to malygos
It may be controversial to remove Fandral, but I figure he is there for value, and in this deck the value game is jade golems, so he's not strictly necessary.
Edit: depending on wheter it's needed I might cut the jade spirit for Fandral.
A little bit of a more mill deck, but I think it could work.
Fatigue Druid returns bitches.
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I guess you really want to go full combo and ignore the other Jade cards completely. I wonder how reliable you can abuse the Auctioneer, since you have almost no ways to really protect it.
If you want to go full combo, you technically only need like one Auctioneer and one Jade Idol. The rest of the deck could then be built around ramp, draw and removal.
Hey guys, my version plays very similarly to miracle rogue, pretty much every minion is a good barnes target and I think that Baron Geddon is going to be a must just because of this particular card named Rat Pack (probably one of the strongest card of the set), killing Rat Pack on turn 3 and hitting Baron Geddon with barnes of turn 4 is game winning.
Let me know what you guys think!
Did a couple of changes. Here's my new deck:
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Now i was thinking about something, in a great deal of Maly Druid games you end up drawing almost if not all your deck, so what if you were to replace the Malygos+Moonfire package with Gadgetzan Auctioneer+Jade Idol.
The plan is to keep the board in check, apply pressure with Arcane Giants and Violet Teachers and draw as much as you can, at the end you start pushing jade golems with auctioneer.
The 1st step towards a better game is firing Mike Donais! We had enough of his "skillful" balances!
#FireMikeDonais