i dont get the hate...like, DH is the least RNG dependant class out of all i'd say...with the current casino meta that we're in, this is the only deck u're playing w/o relying on highrolls...
and the fact it was overpowered at the start it's totally normal marketing policy, like what did u expect, for them to release a new class and not to be top dog? why would ppl be interested in spending $$ if the new class would be weaker than what they already knew/played?
really dude, why u lurking in DH forums? just to spew ur frustrations aroud?
This is HearthPwn in a nutshell. You aren't allowed to play something that you enjoy. And if you do, don't ever post something about it here, because you won't get any help, just toxicity...
On topic, if you play tempo DH, against priests you kinda have to take the loss...
i dont get the hate...like, DH is the least RNG dependant class out of all i'd say...with the current casino meta that we're in, this is the only deck u're playing w/o relying on highrolls...
and the fact it was overpowered at the start it's totally normal marketing policy, like what did u expect, for them to release a new class and not to be top dog? why would ppl be interested in spending $$ if the new class would be weaker than what they already knew/played?
really dude, why u lurking in DH forums? just to spew ur frustrations aroud?
You're not simply posting in a DH forum.. Everytime you post, your listing appears on the main Hearthpwn site. I don't think anyone has posted anything positive about DH and not gotten roasted.
Lots of people have pre-nerf PTSD from DH, so... I mean, it had a 70%+ winrate within 3 minutes of the class release, and was pretty busted, so you can hardly blame them...
But yeah, there's a million priests in the meta now, because it's a hard counter to Demon Hunter.
It's pretty easy to see the sub-forum on which this topic was created though.....Anyway to answer the OP, I doubt there is much you can do against Priests against hope for a perfect draw, go all-out guns blazing and hope to rush them down fast
I don't understand. This is the DH forum. Aggro DH is favoured vs priest. Aggro DH is favoured vs EVERY class except enrage/egg warrior. It also has an even matchup with face hunter. Other than that it beats everything in the meta including priest.
I don't understand. This is the DH forum. Aggro DH is favoured vs priest. Aggro DH is favoured vs EVERY class except enrage/egg warrior. It also has an even matchup with face hunter. Other than that it beats everything in the meta including priest.
Post nerfs? Not really, I feel like some people (including meta snapshots) blindly echo opinions pre nerf.
What nerfs did was making DH match-ups even. Yes, you can win vs Priest. But Priest can blow up your entire field turn 3 and you have not enough damage output to finish the game anymore. After they deal with initial aggression they can pretty much outheal you. Also people live under the impression that DH has endless card draw... Good luck not having your Skull on 6 - you simply won't draw enough damage.
DH used to have many good match-ups and very few bad. Now it still has few bad, but its good ones went down closer to 50%. Also you no longer have an almost auto-win play, which was Felscreamer on 4 into Priestess on 5. Basically DH went from an oppressive class to a well-rounded one (few bad match-ups, but also very few auto-wins).
I don't understand. This is the DH forum. Aggro DH is favoured vs priest. Aggro DH is favoured vs EVERY class except enrage/egg warrior. It also has an even matchup with face hunter. Other than that it beats everything in the meta including priest.
Post nerfs? Not really, I feel like some people (including meta snapshots) blindly echo opinions pre nerf.
What nerfs did was making DH match-ups even. Yes, you can win vs Priest. But Priest can blow up your entire field turn 3 and you have not enough damage output to finish the game anymore. After they deal with initial aggression they can pretty much outheal you. Also people live under the impression that DH has endless card draw... Good luck not having your Skull on 6 - you simply won't draw enough damage.
DH used to have many good match-ups and very few bad. Now it still has few bad, but its good ones went down closer to 50%. Also you no longer have an almost auto-win play, which was Felscreamer on 4 into Priestess on 5. Basically DH went from an oppressive class to a well-rounded one (few bad match-ups, but also very few auto-wins).
No it is still favoured POST NERFS, play the game you will know.
I don't understand. This is the DH forum. Aggro DH is favoured vs priest. Aggro DH is favoured vs EVERY class except enrage/egg warrior. It also has an even matchup with face hunter. Other than that it beats everything in the meta including priest.
Post nerfs? Not really, I feel like some people (including meta snapshots) blindly echo opinions pre nerf.
What nerfs did was making DH match-ups even. Yes, you can win vs Priest. But Priest can blow up your entire field turn 3 and you have not enough damage output to finish the game anymore. After they deal with initial aggression they can pretty much outheal you. Also people live under the impression that DH has endless card draw... Good luck not having your Skull on 6 - you simply won't draw enough damage.
DH used to have many good match-ups and very few bad. Now it still has few bad, but its good ones went down closer to 50%. Also you no longer have an almost auto-win play, which was Felscreamer on 4 into Priestess on 5. Basically DH went from an oppressive class to a well-rounded one (few bad match-ups, but also very few auto-wins).
No it is still favoured POST NERFS, play the game you will know.
Guess what - I do! And I had DHs concede on me after turn 3/4 Breath/Holy Nova. Stats give DH mere 52% - the match-up is as close to even as it gets, even considering pure stats from hsreplay can be misleading. Also the only thing I said is that the match-up can go either way, not that DH is unfavoured.
Priest doesnt have any consistent deck.As a demon hunter hard mulligan and play full aggro and almost never play around stuff.Dont give the priest time to do their stuff.Sometimes they have the answers but most of the time dont.Keep play the game and dont get mad if you go like 2-6 because in ther next hours you will be 10-7.Most ppl play 6 games get unlucky and start complaining.Dont be one of them!
Also highlander hunter is almost always an auto win vs priest so if you have the cards try it,but i guess dh is more like free to play deck.
I don't understand. This is the DH forum. Aggro DH is favoured vs priest. Aggro DH is favoured vs EVERY class except enrage/egg warrior. It also has an even matchup with face hunter. Other than that it beats everything in the meta including priest.
Post nerfs? Not really, I feel like some people (including meta snapshots) blindly echo opinions pre nerf.
What nerfs did was making DH match-ups even. Yes, you can win vs Priest. But Priest can blow up your entire field turn 3 and you have not enough damage output to finish the game anymore. After they deal with initial aggression they can pretty much outheal you. Also people live under the impression that DH has endless card draw... Good luck not having your Skull on 6 - you simply won't draw enough damage.
DH used to have many good match-ups and very few bad. Now it still has few bad, but its good ones went down closer to 50%. Also you no longer have an almost auto-win play, which was Felscreamer on 4 into Priestess on 5. Basically DH went from an oppressive class to a well-rounded one (few bad match-ups, but also very few auto-wins).
No it is still favoured POST NERFS, play the game you will know.
Guess what - I do! And I had DHs concede on me after turn 3/4 Breath/Holy Nova. Stats give DH mere 52% - the match-up is as close to even as it gets, even considering pure stats from hsreplay can be misleading. Also the only thing I said is that the match-up can go either way, not that DH is unfavoured.
That's average win rate, 52% is quite high for average winrate especially if you didn't sort by legend.
I main decked gala priest to legend last month and i had a 55% win rate vs hunter, 52% vs dh and 33% vs quest warlock, if you are looking for a counter, i think quest warlock is it.
geoff, ur post is on point. i have more than 600 games on DH. i like the class, its fast and IT DOESN'T rely on RNG like priest/rogue/mage/druid/shammy, all i can say is that priest is not a fav matchup for DH. u win if one or both of the following happen : priest has a bad draw or priest is not that experienced (u can also win if u just happen to get one of those games where everything goes ur way rng wise but we're not counting those ones). if ur minions dont do enough dmg in the early/mid game then the priest will easily outheal/outvalue u and countering this win condition is as easy as having the 3 or 4 mana aoe's in hand...my deck tracker shows i have 88 games vs priests with 52% winrate atm...(46-42) (diamond last month), so its exactly how the stats shows it lol...also the point of card draw is correct, after the initial push (where u dont go out guns blazing cuz u've learned better already :P), u're praying for skull on any turn lol (except turn 5 ffs, so many times it comes on 5 and fks the outcast mechanic :d )...so ye, thanks to u all who've replied here, priest is an even match-up (i would even go and say priest favored if he knows what he's doing) and feels like pure pally is even worse lol :D (or maybe i'm just terrible and all this is just jabbering :P)
This is HearthPwn in a nutshell. You aren't allowed to play something that you enjoy. And if you do, don't ever post something about it here, because you won't get any help, just toxicity...
On topic, if you play tempo DH, against priests you kinda have to take the loss...
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You're not simply posting in a DH forum.. Everytime you post, your listing appears on the main Hearthpwn site. I don't think anyone has posted anything positive about DH and not gotten roasted.
Lots of people have pre-nerf PTSD from DH, so... I mean, it had a 70%+ winrate within 3 minutes of the class release, and was pretty busted, so you can hardly blame them...
But yeah, there's a million priests in the meta now, because it's a hard counter to Demon Hunter.
It's pretty easy to see the sub-forum on which this topic was created though.....Anyway to answer the OP, I doubt there is much you can do against Priests against hope for a perfect draw, go all-out guns blazing and hope to rush them down fast
I don't understand. This is the DH forum. Aggro DH is favoured vs priest. Aggro DH is favoured vs EVERY class except enrage/egg warrior. It also has an even matchup with face hunter. Other than that it beats everything in the meta including priest.
Post nerfs? Not really, I feel like some people (including meta snapshots) blindly echo opinions pre nerf.
What nerfs did was making DH match-ups even. Yes, you can win vs Priest. But Priest can blow up your entire field turn 3 and you have not enough damage output to finish the game anymore. After they deal with initial aggression they can pretty much outheal you. Also people live under the impression that DH has endless card draw... Good luck not having your Skull on 6 - you simply won't draw enough damage.
DH used to have many good match-ups and very few bad. Now it still has few bad, but its good ones went down closer to 50%. Also you no longer have an almost auto-win play, which was Felscreamer on 4 into Priestess on 5. Basically DH went from an oppressive class to a well-rounded one (few bad match-ups, but also very few auto-wins).
No it is still favoured POST NERFS, play the game you will know.
I have no problems against priest with my Highlander Hunter..
Guess what - I do! And I had DHs concede on me after turn 3/4 Breath/Holy Nova. Stats give DH mere 52% - the match-up is as close to even as it gets, even considering pure stats from hsreplay can be misleading. Also the only thing I said is that the match-up can go either way, not that DH is unfavoured.
How can you OTK with Maly at 9 mana?
Priest doesnt have any consistent deck.As a demon hunter hard mulligan and play full aggro and almost never play around stuff.Dont give the priest time to do their stuff.Sometimes they have the answers but most of the time dont.Keep play the game and dont get mad if you go like 2-6 because in ther next hours you will be 10-7.Most ppl play 6 games get unlucky and start complaining.Dont be one of them!
Also highlander hunter is almost always an auto win vs priest so if you have the cards try it,but i guess dh is more like free to play deck.
That's average win rate, 52% is quite high for average winrate especially if you didn't sort by legend.
I main decked gala priest to legend last month and i had a 55% win rate vs hunter, 52% vs dh and 33% vs quest warlock, if you are looking for a counter, i think quest warlock is it.
geoff, ur post is on point. i have more than 600 games on DH. i like the class, its fast and IT DOESN'T rely on RNG like priest/rogue/mage/druid/shammy, all i can say is that priest is not a fav matchup for DH. u win if one or both of the following happen : priest has a bad draw or priest is not that experienced (u can also win if u just happen to get one of those games where everything goes ur way rng wise but we're not counting those ones). if ur minions dont do enough dmg in the early/mid game then the priest will easily outheal/outvalue u and countering this win condition is as easy as having the 3 or 4 mana aoe's in hand...my deck tracker shows i have 88 games vs priests with 52% winrate atm...(46-42) (diamond last month), so its exactly how the stats shows it lol...also the point of card draw is correct, after the initial push (where u dont go out guns blazing cuz u've learned better already :P), u're praying for skull on any turn lol (except turn 5 ffs, so many times it comes on 5 and fks the outcast mechanic :d )...so ye, thanks to u all who've replied here, priest is an even match-up (i would even go and say priest favored if he knows what he's doing) and feels like pure pally is even worse lol :D (or maybe i'm just terrible and all this is just jabbering :P)
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