The next time Nerfs happen, I expect this to be at the Top of the List:
1)I fundamentally don't believe cards should exist that allow you to put like 50/50 worth of Mana on the field by Turn 4 (I know, what a ridiculous notion). It is a very similar premise for why Naga Sea Witch finally got nerfed (same for Aviana and those were later that Turn 4).
2)It limits design space. While lens exists, the Designers can't really design huge board impacting cards for Paladin since Paladin can always Lens it and have access to it before even the MidGame.
Yes. Let's gut the last viable deck for Paladin. In fact, let's just remove the class from the game entirely, as we did with Warlock.
Seriously though, and I think you're talking about Kripp's Murloc Paladin here, but you know there's only 2 copies of the card in that deck right? And even then, it can fetch the other Prismatic Lens. Learn to take your losses, before jumping on forums complaining about a card that made you lose a game.
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No, it should not. It's just beginning of new expansion and meta just has taken shape, calm down and wait.
It doesn't even have to do with the Meta if it limits design space and is deemed unhealthy for the game. I am pretty sure neither Aviana nor Sea Witch were Top Tier (even in WIld) when nerfed
Nah. The deck is a high roll deck. It loses if you don't draw Lens by turn 3 or 4. It loses if you are playing decent control decks that have board clears by turn 5. It loses if you draw your Tip the Scales instead of getting it from Lens. It loses if the Murloc flood does not include some Warleaders.
There are counters to this and as the above stated. Far too early to call for nerfs or changes. I actually hope someone plays this against me when I play Warrior. I simply use my whirlwind card 3 times and then they lose. or Brawl and shrug at a lonely murloc on the board.
hahaha you want nerf only paladin's deck that is viable right now, but will probably suck in like month but shaman's 2 mana Brann every turn is fine tho, ok
No, it should not. It's just beginning of new expansion and meta just has taken shape, calm down and wait.
It doesn't even have to do with the Meta if it limits design space and is deemed unhealthy for the game. I am pretty sure neither Aviana nor Sea Witch were Top Tier (even in WIld) when nerfed
See, now you're just being dumb. Aviana was nerfed because of Star Aligner Druid, which had an insane win-rate and extreme polarization.
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No, it should not. It's just beginning of new expansion and meta just has taken shape, calm down and wait.
It doesn't even have to do with the Meta if it limits design space and is deemed unhealthy for the game. I am pretty sure neither Aviana nor Sea Witch were Top Tier (even in WIld) when nerfed
I played against that stupid deck yesterday.. wow that hero power is broken! 6 damage to face 6 times + the shudder and all the only bs.. that quest shaman is insane.
No, it should not. It's just beginning of new expansion and meta just has taken shape, calm down and wait.
It doesn't even have to do with the Meta if it limits design space and is deemed unhealthy for the game. I am pretty sure neither Aviana nor Sea Witch were Top Tier (even in WIld) when nerfed
Paladin has been great forever. Even if what you claim is true (impossible to know since other viable Paladin decks might be viable but are being suppressed), Paladin not having a Top Meta deck would not be the end of the World. Paladin is very, very regularly at the top of the Meta. Heck, don't have to go back very far to remember Odd/Even Paladin.
The reactions will be funny in a few months when everyone is like "OMG, I can't believe they nerfed Prismatic Lens. Nobody could have predicted this!!!" My prediction is that it will go to 6 Mana
The reactions will be funny in a few months when everyone is like "OMG, I can't believe they nerfed Prismatic Lens. Nobody could have predicted this!!!" My prediction is that it will go to 6 Mana
I will bet you $100 it will not be nerfed. Care to take?
I tryed to put in words how ridiculous OPs bet on the nerf demand is. How much stronger other classes are atm. How highrolly this deck is , and if inconsistent, soon be gone. But yeah as usual Ben is the lyrical genius, and is hitting the nail on the head.
I tryed to put in words how ridiculous OPs bet on the nerf demand is. How much stronger other classes are atm. How highrolly this deck is , and if inconsistent, soon be gone. But yeah as usual Ben is the lyrical genius, and is hitting the nail on the head.
Exactly. I mean, not only is Paladin in a rough spot, but this deck itself isn't good. It has a chance to high roll a slight percentage of games, but the cost is running a deck that's terrible the remaining percent.
Even when it high rolls, it isn't game over. Any class with a modicum of AOE still beats it most of the time. It also loses to decks that can just get on board...or taunt...or heal...Unless you highroll their lack of removal/taunt/heal...then you double highrolled, I guess, and you should play the lottery.
As you said, the deck is inconsistent and won't be around long. Right now, it's just having a good time in an unrefined meta.
No, it should not. It's just beginning of new expansion and meta just has taken shape, calm down and wait.
It doesn't even have to do with the Meta if it limits design space and is deemed unhealthy for the game. I am pretty sure neither Aviana nor Sea Witch were Top Tier (even in WIld) when nerfed
The next time Nerfs happen, I expect this to be at the Top of the List:
1)I fundamentally don't believe cards should exist that allow you to put like 50/50 worth of Mana on the field by Turn 4 (I know, what a ridiculous notion). It is a very similar premise for why Naga Sea Witch finally got nerfed (same for Aviana and those were later that Turn 4).
2)It limits design space. While lens exists, the Designers can't really design huge board impacting cards for Paladin since Paladin can always Lens it and have access to it before even the MidGame.
No, it should not. It's just beginning of new expansion and meta just has taken shape, calm down and wait.
Yes. Let's gut the last viable deck for Paladin. In fact, let's just remove the class from the game entirely, as we did with Warlock.
Seriously though, and I think you're talking about Kripp's Murloc Paladin here, but you know there's only 2 copies of the card in that deck right? And even then, it can fetch the other Prismatic Lens. Learn to take your losses, before jumping on forums complaining about a card that made you lose a game.
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It doesn't even have to do with the Meta if it limits design space and is deemed unhealthy for the game. I am pretty sure neither Aviana nor Sea Witch were Top Tier (even in WIld) when nerfed
Nah. The deck is a high roll deck. It loses if you don't draw Lens by turn 3 or 4. It loses if you are playing decent control decks that have board clears by turn 5. It loses if you draw your Tip the Scales instead of getting it from Lens. It loses if the Murloc flood does not include some Warleaders.
There are counters to this and as the above stated. Far too early to call for nerfs or changes. I actually hope someone plays this against me when I play Warrior. I simply use my whirlwind card 3 times and then they lose. or Brawl and shrug at a lonely murloc on the board.
hahaha you want nerf only paladin's deck that is viable right now, but will probably suck in like month but shaman's 2 mana Brann every turn is fine tho, ok
See, now you're just being dumb. Aviana was nerfed because of Star Aligner Druid, which had an insane win-rate and extreme polarization.
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Both were tier 0 when they were nerfed.
Naga: https://tempostorm.com/hearthstone/meta-snapshot/wild/2018-02-24
Aviana: https://tempostorm.com/hearthstone/meta-snapshot/wild/2018-09-01
No, Warrior with 60% winrate and only 1 bad matchup should be nerfed to the ground.
The Fish people disagree.
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If you want to be taken seriously, you don't quote Tempo Storm assessments of the Meta.
Paladin has been great forever. Even if what you claim is true (impossible to know since other viable Paladin decks might be viable but are being suppressed), Paladin not having a Top Meta deck would not be the end of the World. Paladin is very, very regularly at the top of the Meta. Heck, don't have to go back very far to remember Odd/Even Paladin.
The reactions will be funny in a few months when everyone is like "OMG, I can't believe they nerfed Prismatic Lens. Nobody could have predicted this!!!" My prediction is that it will go to 6 Mana
I will bet you $100 it will not be nerfed. Care to take?
No.
I sure hope not, this is first we're seeing use out of the card and it's quite fun!
Hahaha "nerf it to 6 mana" he says. What a joke
I tryed to put in words how ridiculous OPs bet on the nerf demand is. How much stronger other classes are atm. How highrolly this deck is , and if inconsistent, soon be gone. But yeah as usual Ben is the lyrical genius, and is hitting the nail on the head.
Exactly. I mean, not only is Paladin in a rough spot, but this deck itself isn't good. It has a chance to high roll a slight percentage of games, but the cost is running a deck that's terrible the remaining percent.
Even when it high rolls, it isn't game over. Any class with a modicum of AOE still beats it most of the time. It also loses to decks that can just get on board...or taunt...or heal...Unless you highroll their lack of removal/taunt/heal...then you double highrolled, I guess, and you should play the lottery.
As you said, the deck is inconsistent and won't be around long. Right now, it's just having a good time in an unrefined meta.
Agreed wholeheartedly. Tempostorm is the infowars of HS.