Ok so say I want to obtain a certain legendary from a certain expansion. I don't have the dust to craft, I don't want to D/E anything else from the cards I have, and I could either in this case grind, or buy some packs.
How many packs would I need to buy, to get enough dust to buy a 1600 cost card, and should I buy them from the set the card comes from, in case I get lucky? Or would it be better to just buy classic packs or something?
I don't have the biggest collection. I have a lot of warlock stuff as I play a lot of warlock and tbh I don't really see myself changing any time soon. There is just one card I fancy getting my hands on right now to play around with in my decks, and that's just about my only interest (other than a few epics here and there) as far as deckbuilding is at present. i have just about everything else I need to experiment with.
How many card packs would you need to buy, to make enough dust for a specific legendary. and would you buy the cards from the set the card belonged to, or have some other strategy? I am thinking maybe classic cards as there are a lot of legendaries I need from the core set, where as the other sets most legendary cards are not very important to me right now.
and this VS. just grinding? I guess throwing some money at it is going to help. LoL.
PS: it's prince taldaram and I didn't get it from the 3 x free packs. I know it's not the most essential card ever, but I see some fun to be had with it in my decks with the ability to copy anything and pop it relatively easy. gives more fun options for recruit and cubes. You can even copy someone elses cube and then silence theres. ha ha aha.
Its rather expensive to buy packs if you only want prince taldarab. Esp because prince t is only really viable in 1 deck right now. If prince t is really the only card you want i would suggest to grind the dust. It would take about 2 weeks.
If you like hearthstone and think you will play it for a long time and you might want to play other competitive decks in the future, you could buy 40 packs.
The expected dust value of a pack is 100 dust, but remember that the most common dust value is 40. Statistically you'd need 16 packs.
EDIT: Clearly the number grows if you expect to find cards you don't want to dust; ie you buy packs from a set in which there are a lot of cards you need.
This is the answer. If you disenchant everything you unpack, you will need 16 packs on average. And if you keep stuff you unpack, then the number of necessary packs grows because the average dust of the dienchantable cards decreases.
Disenchanted my only copy of Archbishop Benedictus, which it was golden and I wanted to craft a new kobolds deck. You know what my next frozen throne pack was? A regular copy -_-
1) Get it for free (like C'Thun, Marin, or the random free DeathKnight and Weapon that you get
2) Open it in a pack (you either need to purchase it or get free packs from Tavern Brawl, Choose your Champion, or other events Blizzard holds)
3) Craft it with dust
#1 is out since Taldaram wasn't a freebie. #2 (Opening him from a pack).. at this point would be incredibly lucky, since you are probably missing many other legendaries in the KFT set that you could open in a pack instead.
So, really, you have to craft it with dust. While people say the average dust value of a pack is 100 dust, I think that's a little generous, as you would basically need to dust everything you get to get those values. 50 dust is probably a better estimate, especially if you will be keeping some of the cards you get in the packs (maybe for a second class you also like playing). So, I'd expect to purchase 32 packs before you have enough dust to craft Talaradam.
As far as what packs, you should probably open either Classic (to help build your collection) or the KFT set (since you could get lucky and open him in a pack).
However, I really caution you against crafting him. There are MANY legendaries that are better than him, and even I still haven't seen him successfully run in a Cubelock. Yes, there is potential there, but I don't think he will actually make the deck any stronger (since regular Cubelock runs Tar Creeper which is a much better stall against agro).
But, if you have your heart set on it, then go for it. And if you are also decent at area, then you should probably play that, as you can get dust much quicker (although you will only get packs from K&C, but you can get additional gold/dust for increasing wins).
The expected dust value of a pack is 100 dust, but remember that the most common dust value is 40. Statistically you'd need 16 packs.
EDIT: Clearly the number grows if you expect to find cards you don't want to dust; ie you buy packs from a set in which there are a lot of cards you need.
I was thinking maybe ungoro for that reason as I barely have any of those cards. TBH though I don't have a lot of cards as I dust a lot of stuff to be able to play with what I want. That's why I thought just getting classic packs might be a good idea. I never tend to dust the common cards though, only really epics and rares mostly, although have dusted a ton of legendaries to get decks up and running to play for a few seasons.
made a few mistakes over the short time I've played, but for the most part I have had a lot of fun playing my warlock decks and continue to. I think I'll be playing warlock mostly for a while now, but the other decks I want to try are dragon priest, even if just before priest looses a lot of stuff. maybe not the best option.
always wanted to play murloc paladin, but not as good as regular aggro right now, and TBH I am trying out control decks this meta and loving them. It is cool to have something fast and agressive that is competitive though in case you need to blast through some games for whatever reason... I do think either aggro pally or tempo/secret mage are looking like good, not so expensive decks right now, so getting cards for these would not hurt.
Other than that I just want to play control-lock in many forms, and bolster and evolve them as the meta changes. I think taldaram will be great for stealing a rin and popping it to get the seals first, then silence their rin if at all possible would be great. You could even copy a lich king to try and get some good draw off it, copy an obsidian statue to stall etc. I think the card probably has a lot of application inside these new breed of warlock decks.
I think people are not thinking outside the "cube" enough with what can be done with the card in warlock decks. I know the doomguard thing is the new black, but I have also ran cubes in controlock decks, with no doomguard, only voidlords and it can get seriously out of hand pretty fast. You supply an endless wall of voidlords, which can indefinitely hold off your opponent while you eat face with gul'dan, use you corridor creepers to take chunks off them. Or use a medivh/rin package and use arcane tyrants and summons from atiesh/seals to gain board, waste their removals and destroy their deck. from this possition you can get the fatugue victory while bolstered behind the army of voidlords, or smorc face with the insane tempo plays of having both corridor creepers, arcane tyrants and atiesh firing off with the seal plays. It's pretty cool concept, but one I have only seemed to play myself so it's probably more of some super greedy meme than anything.
40 packs. and if you plan to dust it all you might as well buy from the set that has the leg you want in case you might open it
thanks man. this was my thinking as well at first. not much I want from KOTFT, but I bet if I was open a leg, it would be something I didn't want to dust. Like a DK anduin. I mean that's gotta be a hard card to dust. I know it can be great, but will I ever get that deck together before the stuff rotates.. unlikely.... then I should start to think about wild.. wild seems to me like it;s amazing, but to someone without the cards it would be tough.
I hope to eventually be able to play wild one day, when I'm not so impulsive and manage to keep some older cards. I won't be dusting N'zoth, that's for sure. I always wanted n'zoth (the golden one is my favourite card) and now I have it, I am inspired to play wild after the next big shift.
Its rather expensive to buy packs if you only want prince taldarab. Esp because prince t is only really viable in 1 deck right now. If prince t is really the only card you want i would suggest to grind the dust. It would take about 2 weeks.
If you like hearthstone and think you will play it for a long time and you might want to play other competitive decks in the future, you could buy 40 packs.
there are a lot of other cards I would like and decks I'd love to play. It's just for the current meta that's shaping up, all my chips are in the warlock pile pretty much.
Only decks I can successfully really make that are not warlock decks right now, are token druid and pirate warrior with the new summoner package.
Now I have almost everything you could possibly want to make a control lock or zoo. I just feel like having prince T would be a lot of fun for cube style decks, which are my new favourite thing to do. building decks based on cubes is great. People only ever expect the doomguard combo, but there is so much more can be done with cubes, and taldaram fits right into the equation for me. lao he looks pretty damn badass and I like the restriction it puts on the deck, it means it must be built a certain way, it is a challenge and a custom deck from the get go... I like the risk reward thing, Praise the RNG-Gods, may their glory shine upon you.
1) Get it for free (like C'Thun, Marin, or the random free DeathKnight and Weapon that you get
2) Open it in a pack (you either need to purchase it or get free packs from Tavern Brawl, Choose your Champion, or other events Blizzard holds)
3) Craft it with dust
#1 is out since Taldaram wasn't a freebie. #2 (Opening him from a pack).. at this point would be incredibly lucky, since you are probably missing many other legendaries in the KFT set that you could open in a pack instead.
So, really, you have to craft it with dust. While people say the average dust value of a pack is 100 dust, I think that's a little generous, as you would basically need to dust everything you get to get those values. 50 dust is probably a better estimate, especially if you will be keeping some of the cards you get in the packs (maybe for a second class you also like playing). So, I'd expect to purchase 32 packs before you have enough dust to craft Talaradam.
As far as what packs, you should probably open either Classic (to help build your collection) or the KFT set (since you could get lucky and open him in a pack).
However, I really caution you against crafting him. There are MANY legendaries that are better than him, and even I still haven't seen him successfully run in a Cubelock. Yes, there is potential there, but I don't think he will actually make the deck any stronger (since regular Cubelock runs Tar Creeper which is a much better stall against agro).
But, if you have your heart set on it, then go for it. And if you are also decent at area, then you should probably play that, as you can get dust much quicker (although you will only get packs from K&C, but you can get additional gold/dust for increasing wins).
thanks man for giving me some more sinight into the matter,
yeah, I think I will wait then.
However, I still feel like oppening some packs. ha ha.
Just not sure which expansion to open, or to open standard packs.
those epic giants from the standard set look good that I've seen in a few cube decks.
HMM, which card set do you think I should get them from? I think I have everything I want immediately from K&C as I have all the warlock stuff. still some really good cards in that set for other classes I don't have though.
Not sure what is in the KOTFT that I need, I know there are some good cards, but only lock cards I need are the gnomeferatu and they are not a good tech choice right now anyway.
ungoro has bloodbloom which looks cool, also a lot of good epics for priest as well and mage, which both look cool.
classic has tons of good legendaries, a few epics I want. I probably have a lot of the common cards though.
gadgetzan. never opened any of these so I could get a 15 pack and probably get a legandary. is it really worth it though.
old gods. opened about 10 of these back when it came out. I think there was a reset though so I could get 1 legendary from oppening about 8 packs at this point as I opened 2 the other day.
Hmm. I'm just not sure which packs would benefit me best tbh. I do have the itch to open some packs though. maybe some KOTFT and some ungoro or something. even just 15 of each maybe.
Ok buddy imma tell you the best way to get a single legendary. First you gotta open the game every Friday at exactly 12 pm. Then, when nobody is looking, you sacrifice exactly 3 virgins while chanting : " Brode ,Brode,Brode" quietly into a set of dice. Throw the dice at your computer screen as hard as you can and then, and only then, you can open a pack and get the legendary you want. You are welcome.
Ok buddy imma tell you the best way to get a single legendary. First you gotta open the game every Friday at exactly 12 pm. Then, when nobody is looking, you sacrifice exactly 3 virgins while chanting : " Brode ,Brode,Brode" quietly into a set of dice. Throw the dice at your computer screen as hard as you can and then, and only then, you can open a pack and get the legendary you want. You are welcome.
Nice.. thanks man.
Good job I already have some virgins right here ;)
Don't forget the Collection Manager that the Innkeeper has here on Hearthpwn. If you don't play any Wild, then you could always burn stuff from rotated sets for dust.
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Don't forget the Collection Manager that the Innkeeper has here on Hearthpwn. If you don't play any Wild, then you could always burn stuff from rotated sets for dust.
I already dusted most of my old stuff. know I'm going to regret getting rid of old adventure stuff when I start playing wild eventually though.
Still though, I feel I did what was right to be able to play the game. There is always time to build a collection. You need viable cards to be able to start getting anywhere though.
You could just replace it with a faceess manipulator it has the same effect and usage, except it's not a 3/3 and costs 5 instead
I had thought about this, but I'd rather have taladram. it's easier to pop, and it adds the restriction on early taunts you have, meaning you'll probably be able to take 2 doomsayers instead, or pack in more early game removal spells instead.
I do love playing with a tar creeper, especially since it makes bringing oakheart more viable than just pulling the voidlord and lackey. But I think with taladram worked in I'd have to shake the deck up more. I don't know, I mean I know the deck I'm playing that I'd use him in, probably doesn't need the card. But I did want to start playing doomsayers again as well, and this would be a good deck for it. I have no real incentive to change anything up though as I have the optimal thing I can build for what I want. If I was to try and work in Prince T then I'd have the room to experiment a bit more.
Choose 3 classes you like keep their cards dust everything else you end up with better decks and more fun
I do kind of do that TBF. I kept duskbreaker and acolyte for priest as I knew I wanted to play dragon priest at some point.
Since I can play multiple archetypes of warlock though. I have been focussing more on cards that are good for them. I reckon I'd like to play some mage as well. So maybe getting ungoro packs is a good idea, because they have good epics in those like the glyph's and stuff.
Do you have $25 to burn? Then buy an Adventure, play thru it, and dust all the cards. You will get approximately 3200 dust. Enough for two legendaries - or if you're super focused on one card as your favorite, one Golden legendary.
Do you have $25 to burn? Then buy an Adventure, play thru it, and dust all the cards. You will get approximately 3200 dust. Enough for two legendaries - or if you're super focused on one card as your favorite, one Golden legendary.
good advice. however I have all the adventures to do date that you can buy (I think) and I don't think I can buy them again.
I have blackrock mountain, the brann bronzebeard one and karazhan. LoL the only legendary I still have from karazhan is medivh as I use it, and the previous 2 are completely dusted,
If I could buy them again, it would be a good option, but I'm sure I cannot buy them again though.
Ok so say I want to obtain a certain legendary from a certain expansion. I don't have the dust to craft, I don't want to D/E anything else from the cards I have, and I could either in this case grind, or buy some packs.
How many packs would I need to buy, to get enough dust to buy a 1600 cost card, and should I buy them from the set the card comes from, in case I get lucky? Or would it be better to just buy classic packs or something?
I don't have the biggest collection. I have a lot of warlock stuff as I play a lot of warlock and tbh I don't really see myself changing any time soon. There is just one card I fancy getting my hands on right now to play around with in my decks, and that's just about my only interest (other than a few epics here and there) as far as deckbuilding is at present. i have just about everything else I need to experiment with.
How many card packs would you need to buy, to make enough dust for a specific legendary. and would you buy the cards from the set the card belonged to, or have some other strategy? I am thinking maybe classic cards as there are a lot of legendaries I need from the core set, where as the other sets most legendary cards are not very important to me right now.
and this VS. just grinding? I guess throwing some money at it is going to help. LoL.
PS: it's prince taldaram and I didn't get it from the 3 x free packs. I know it's not the most essential card ever, but I see some fun to be had with it in my decks with the ability to copy anything and pop it relatively easy. gives more fun options for recruit and cubes. You can even copy someone elses cube and then silence theres. ha ha aha.
40 packs. and if you plan to dust it all you might as well buy from the set that has the leg you want in case you might open it
The easiest way to obtain a certain legendary is to craft all the others. Then the next one you will get from a pack will be that one you need.
best way is just craft it
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Its rather expensive to buy packs if you only want prince taldarab. Esp because prince t is only really viable in 1 deck right now. If prince t is really the only card you want i would suggest to grind the dust. It would take about 2 weeks.
If you like hearthstone and think you will play it for a long time and you might want to play other competitive decks in the future, you could buy 40 packs.
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Disenchanted my only copy of Archbishop Benedictus, which it was golden and I wanted to craft a new kobolds deck. You know what my next frozen throne pack was? A regular copy -_-
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there are only 3 ways to get a legendary
1) Get it for free (like C'Thun, Marin, or the random free DeathKnight and Weapon that you get
2) Open it in a pack (you either need to purchase it or get free packs from Tavern Brawl, Choose your Champion, or other events Blizzard holds)
3) Craft it with dust
#1 is out since Taldaram wasn't a freebie. #2 (Opening him from a pack).. at this point would be incredibly lucky, since you are probably missing many other legendaries in the KFT set that you could open in a pack instead.
So, really, you have to craft it with dust. While people say the average dust value of a pack is 100 dust, I think that's a little generous, as you would basically need to dust everything you get to get those values. 50 dust is probably a better estimate, especially if you will be keeping some of the cards you get in the packs (maybe for a second class you also like playing). So, I'd expect to purchase 32 packs before you have enough dust to craft Talaradam.
As far as what packs, you should probably open either Classic (to help build your collection) or the KFT set (since you could get lucky and open him in a pack).
However, I really caution you against crafting him. There are MANY legendaries that are better than him, and even I still haven't seen him successfully run in a Cubelock. Yes, there is potential there, but I don't think he will actually make the deck any stronger (since regular Cubelock runs Tar Creeper which is a much better stall against agro).
But, if you have your heart set on it, then go for it. And if you are also decent at area, then you should probably play that, as you can get dust much quicker (although you will only get packs from K&C, but you can get additional gold/dust for increasing wins).
Quit complaining and just have fun with this game!
made a few mistakes over the short time I've played, but for the most part I have had a lot of fun playing my warlock decks and continue to. I think I'll be playing warlock mostly for a while now, but the other decks I want to try are dragon priest, even if just before priest looses a lot of stuff. maybe not the best option.
always wanted to play murloc paladin, but not as good as regular aggro right now, and TBH I am trying out control decks this meta and loving them. It is cool to have something fast and agressive that is competitive though in case you need to blast through some games for whatever reason... I do think either aggro pally or tempo/secret mage are looking like good, not so expensive decks right now, so getting cards for these would not hurt.
Other than that I just want to play control-lock in many forms, and bolster and evolve them as the meta changes. I think taldaram will be great for stealing a rin and popping it to get the seals first, then silence their rin if at all possible would be great. You could even copy a lich king to try and get some good draw off it, copy an obsidian statue to stall etc. I think the card probably has a lot of application inside these new breed of warlock decks.
I think people are not thinking outside the "cube" enough with what can be done with the card in warlock decks. I know the doomguard thing is the new black, but I have also ran cubes in controlock decks, with no doomguard, only voidlords and it can get seriously out of hand pretty fast. You supply an endless wall of voidlords, which can indefinitely hold off your opponent while you eat face with gul'dan, use you corridor creepers to take chunks off them. Or use a medivh/rin package and use arcane tyrants and summons from atiesh/seals to gain board, waste their removals and destroy their deck. from this possition you can get the fatugue victory while bolstered behind the army of voidlords, or smorc face with the insane tempo plays of having both corridor creepers, arcane tyrants and atiesh firing off with the seal plays. It's pretty cool concept, but one I have only seemed to play myself so it's probably more of some super greedy meme than anything.
it's fun though. you should try it.
I hope to eventually be able to play wild one day, when I'm not so impulsive and manage to keep some older cards. I won't be dusting N'zoth, that's for sure. I always wanted n'zoth (the golden one is my favourite card) and now I have it, I am inspired to play wild after the next big shift.
Going to build a wild n'zoth control-lock.
Only decks I can successfully really make that are not warlock decks right now, are token druid and pirate warrior with the new summoner package.
Now I have almost everything you could possibly want to make a control lock or zoo. I just feel like having prince T would be a lot of fun for cube style decks, which are my new favourite thing to do. building decks based on cubes is great. People only ever expect the doomguard combo, but there is so much more can be done with cubes, and taldaram fits right into the equation for me. lao he looks pretty damn badass and I like the restriction it puts on the deck, it means it must be built a certain way, it is a challenge and a custom deck from the get go... I like the risk reward thing, Praise the RNG-Gods, may their glory shine upon you.
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thanks everyone for your words of wisdom. too many replies to reply to everyone. by the time I checked this there were a lot of replies.
Hopefully I covered a lot of it anyway in what I did write.
yeah, I think I will wait then.
However, I still feel like oppening some packs. ha ha.
Just not sure which expansion to open, or to open standard packs.
those epic giants from the standard set look good that I've seen in a few cube decks.
HMM, which card set do you think I should get them from? I think I have everything I want immediately from K&C as I have all the warlock stuff. still some really good cards in that set for other classes I don't have though.
Not sure what is in the KOTFT that I need, I know there are some good cards, but only lock cards I need are the gnomeferatu and they are not a good tech choice right now anyway.
ungoro has bloodbloom which looks cool, also a lot of good epics for priest as well and mage, which both look cool.
classic has tons of good legendaries, a few epics I want. I probably have a lot of the common cards though.
gadgetzan. never opened any of these so I could get a 15 pack and probably get a legandary. is it really worth it though.
old gods. opened about 10 of these back when it came out. I think there was a reset though so I could get 1 legendary from oppening about 8 packs at this point as I opened 2 the other day.
Hmm. I'm just not sure which packs would benefit me best tbh. I do have the itch to open some packs though. maybe some KOTFT and some ungoro or something. even just 15 of each maybe.
Ok buddy imma tell you the best way to get a single legendary. First you gotta open the game every Friday at exactly 12 pm. Then, when nobody is looking, you sacrifice exactly 3 virgins while chanting : " Brode ,Brode,Brode" quietly into a set of dice. Throw the dice at your computer screen as hard as you can and then, and only then, you can open a pack and get the legendary you want. You are welcome.
Choose 3 classes you like keep their cards dust everything else you end up with better decks and more fun
Good job I already have some virgins right here ;)
ha ha, burn.
Math says 16-40 packs.
Don't forget the Collection Manager that the Innkeeper has here on Hearthpwn. If you don't play any Wild, then you could always burn stuff from rotated sets for dust.
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You could just replace it with a faceess manipulator it has the same effect and usage, except it's not a 3/3 and costs 5 instead
Still though, I feel I did what was right to be able to play the game. There is always time to build a collection. You need viable cards to be able to start getting anywhere though.
I do love playing with a tar creeper, especially since it makes bringing oakheart more viable than just pulling the voidlord and lackey. But I think with taladram worked in I'd have to shake the deck up more. I don't know, I mean I know the deck I'm playing that I'd use him in, probably doesn't need the card. But I did want to start playing doomsayers again as well, and this would be a good deck for it. I have no real incentive to change anything up though as I have the optimal thing I can build for what I want. If I was to try and work in Prince T then I'd have the room to experiment a bit more.
Since I can play multiple archetypes of warlock though. I have been focussing more on cards that are good for them. I reckon I'd like to play some mage as well. So maybe getting ungoro packs is a good idea, because they have good epics in those like the glyph's and stuff.
Do you have $25 to burn? Then buy an Adventure, play thru it, and dust all the cards. You will get approximately 3200 dust. Enough for two legendaries - or if you're super focused on one card as your favorite, one Golden legendary.
I have blackrock mountain, the brann bronzebeard one and karazhan. LoL the only legendary I still have from karazhan is medivh as I use it, and the previous 2 are completely dusted,
If I could buy them again, it would be a good option, but I'm sure I cannot buy them again though.
oh thank you friend yes good advice colega thank you for sharing! xxxxx