Playing Varden in BG's for the first time and have realized that their hero power consistently freezes the right most minion instead on a random one. I feel like it should be freezing and copying a random one since their hero power simply says "When Bob's tavern refreshes freeze one and summon a copy of it", but I've seen it consistently freeze the right most minion. Is this a bug or is this how it's supposed to be?
Haven't played this hero yet, but it's definitely a bug. You know, a small indie company like Blizzard doesn't have enough money to play test the game. :)
Is this abuseable? I mean tavern refresh rule being same like Ysera (whenever minion is added) so you can just reorder tavern, pickup 2 minions and freeze to guarantee new copy of rightmost is added?
Or is this a non issue since minions that come up with refresh are random either way
Is this abuseable? I mean tavern refresh rule being same like Ysera (whenever minion is added) so you can just reorder tavern, pickup 2 minions and freeze to guarantee new copy of rightmost is added?
Or is this a non issue since minions that come up with refresh are random either way
If I'm remembering correctly, when you freeze a minion and it's, let's say, the only minion left there when you go into combat. When you re-enter Bob's tavern, the minion you froze will get pushed all the way to the left, so it wouldn't be the one to be duplicated. The one that will get duplicated will be the newer minion on the right.
I get what you're saying though. Re-ordering the tavern still doesn't guarantee a copy of the rightmost minion the way you want it to. The tavern has to have a new minion added, and when a new minion is added, it becomes the rightmost minion, so you'd be getting the copy of that.
Happened to me too, and I tried - it's not abusable.
I really thought getting easier triples from it would make it a lesser shudderwock, i.e. get triples, go to 5, get a bunch of 6s. Not really close.
The added stats from buddy are meaningless, it's a +1g buddy, which for future ref I think I'll just keep in hand to get it tripled so I could get another 6.
How to win with Varden in BG? I am losing my mind over here since it is the last achievement in the BG section, and nothing seems to work. I came close with elementals and boars, but in the end never got #1 spot... He is currently the worst hero stats based and I don't see how you could even buff him to be competitive...
Well played! I still haven't won with Varden. I kind of gave up after I got the win with 50 different heroes achievement. The masochism wasn't worth it lol.
How to win with Varden in BG? I am losing my mind over here since it is the last achievement in the BG section, and nothing seems to work. I came close with elementals and boars, but in the end never got #1 spot... He is currently the worst hero stats based and I don't see how you could even buff him to be competitive...
when i tried him for the first time, i had a bunch of wrath weavers and tricksters so i stayed on tier 1 a little bit and it was the easiest win in my life
So now that they've changed him to copy highest tier minion it's trivial to copy it over and over while pumping it with extra buddy stats, as expected it's stupid strong.
Also it is so easy to triple up. Buy one of the copies, freeze and next turn (unless you get really unlucky with the 1 new minions that shows up on the tavern) you get another buffed copy...
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Playing Varden in BG's for the first time and have realized that their hero power consistently freezes the right most minion instead on a random one. I feel like it should be freezing and copying a random one since their hero power simply says "When Bob's tavern refreshes freeze one and summon a copy of it", but I've seen it consistently freeze the right most minion. Is this a bug or is this how it's supposed to be?
Haven't played this hero yet, but it's definitely a bug. You know, a small indie company like Blizzard doesn't have enough money to play test the game. :)
Is this abuseable? I mean tavern refresh rule being same like Ysera (whenever minion is added) so you can just reorder tavern, pickup 2 minions and freeze to guarantee new copy of rightmost is added?
Or is this a non issue since minions that come up with refresh are random either way
Piloted Shredder, Knife Juggler, Mad Scientist, Dr. Boom
Need to be removed from this game
If I'm remembering correctly, when you freeze a minion and it's, let's say, the only minion left there when you go into combat. When you re-enter Bob's tavern, the minion you froze will get pushed all the way to the left, so it wouldn't be the one to be duplicated. The one that will get duplicated will be the newer minion on the right.
I get what you're saying though. Re-ordering the tavern still doesn't guarantee a copy of the rightmost minion the way you want it to. The tavern has to have a new minion added, and when a new minion is added, it becomes the rightmost minion, so you'd be getting the copy of that.
Happened to me too, and I tried - it's not abusable.
I really thought getting easier triples from it would make it a lesser shudderwock, i.e. get triples, go to 5, get a bunch of 6s. Not really close.
The added stats from buddy are meaningless, it's a +1g buddy, which for future ref I think I'll just keep in hand to get it tripled so I could get another 6.
How to win with Varden in BG?
I am losing my mind over here since it is the last achievement in the BG section, and nothing seems to work.
I came close with elementals and boars, but in the end never got #1 spot...
He is currently the worst hero stats based and I don't see how you could even buff him to be competitive...
update, i finally made it with a bit of luck and elementals
got some lucky duplicates while the buddy was available and when the minions got big enough just sold the buddy to get big creeps in
not even afk for 3 turns was as hard as #1 with varden, the hero clearly isn't viable in the meta
Well played! I still haven't won with Varden. I kind of gave up after I got the win with 50 different heroes achievement. The masochism wasn't worth it lol.
I won my first time Varden but not again since.
when i tried him for the first time, i had a bunch of wrath weavers and tricksters so i stayed on tier 1 a little bit and it was the easiest win in my life
So now that they've changed him to copy highest tier minion it's trivial to copy it over and over while pumping it with extra buddy stats, as expected it's stupid strong.
Piloted Shredder, Knife Juggler, Mad Scientist, Dr. Boom
Need to be removed from this game
Also it is so easy to triple up. Buy one of the copies, freeze and next turn (unless you get really unlucky with the 1 new minions that shows up on the tavern) you get another buffed copy...