PAX' Elemental Shaman
- Last updated Jul 29, 2017 (Quest Rogue Nerf)
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Wild
- 21 Minions
- 9 Spells
- Deck Type: Ranked Deck
- Deck Archetype: Elemental Shaman
- Crafting Cost: 6000
- Dust Needed: Loading Collection
- Created: 6/30/2017 (Un'Goro Launch)
- KlusaSan
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Hi guys,
first of all, thanks for upvoting this decklist of mine!
Also check my Wild Jade Tempo Rogue in the link below
http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/866429-rank-15-to-legend-80-winrate
Elemental Shami is by far my favourite thing to play since the start of Un'Goro.
What I like most about it is that he gives you a fair chance to win vs. most of the higher tier and most of the Tier 1 decklists such as Control Mage or Aggro Druid
Over the time many of you guys helped me developing this decklist, giving good advices and interesting ideas about certain cards, so thank you for that!
MULLIGAN
Against aggro&midrange, try to keep either one Maelstrom Portal or Lightning Storm, needless to say, Tar Creeper and Hot Spring Guardian are better than Stonehill Defender in this matchup. Apart from that just try to maintain a good curve.
Control: since we got some more time to prepare our board, we can also consider keeping cards like Stonehill Defender or even Flamewreathed Faceless (even more so, if we have The Coin).
HOW TO PLAY THIS
I will list some of the more important matchups you will face:
Quest Rogue: since the nerf has finally arrived, you probably won´t have to worry about that in ladder anymore, but we will see, how the season proceeds
Hunter, Pirate Warrior&Aggro Druid: favoured matchup, play your taunt minions and clear with your spells, until they run out of breath. Against Druid, always save a Lightning Storm for his Living Mana crap
Jade Druid: 50:50 chance, Bloodlust wins most of the games here, do everything in your power to prevent that he reaches lategame. Similiar to Quest Rogue, only remove the key cards like Fandral Staghelm, rest is face
Control Mage: favoured, since we have at least one Kalimos, Primal Lord in reserve, they will have a hard time to burst you down to 0. Save Hex for Alexstrasza
Midrange Paladin: not easy, but winnable, if you can stop his tempo during early game. Save Hex´es for Tirion and his [deck]Spikeridged Steed[/deck]
Control Priest: by far the hardest matchup, he just has so many board clears.
The best advice I can give to you is a smart use of Spirit Echo. If you face too many of them, cut a Mana Tide Totem for another Echo
Current Changes&Thoughts
Al'Akir the Windlord for sure is one strong fellow, but without any Flametongue Totems to boost him he is only decent on most of the situations, if you need him, try to pull him out of Servant of Kalimos
-2 Fire Plume Harbinger / +2 Glacial Shards: I found Glacial Shards to be more efficient in most of the situations, stalling aggressive enemies early to prepare Lightning Storm, stalling bigger enemies during late for Hex etc.
- Bloodmage Thalnos / + 2nd Mana Tide Totem: Thalnos was a dead card most of the time, only providing a card draw, cause he was rarely there, when needed, so Mana Tide Totem poses a better chance to get several cards => more options, furthermore it has synergy with the next change
- Stone Sentinel, - Flametongue Totem / +2 Thing from Below: since we can always place a totem here and there during our turns, Thing from Below seems a nice sub for Stone Sentinel, tho he provides Feral Spirit, so to say, for free, 7 Mana is quite something compared to a card that might turn out costing 0
-2 Thing from Below, -1 Mana Tide Totem, -2 Glacial Shard / +2 Devolve, + Bloodmage Thalnos, + Stone Sentinel, + Fire Plume Harbinger
...there have been tons so many changes since the last update that I won´t write all of them down anymore, I am still testing some changes anyway.
Any more questions? Leave a comment :)
Special thanks to kiwiinbacon for deciding to feature my deck in one of his videos, hope you all like it!
PAX
I've revised your deck and have had extremely good success (crosses fingers) against Pirate Warrior, Jade Rogue, Burn Mage, Delay Mage, Jade Druid etc etc...Crystal Rogue is still a problem but can be beaten. The key change is adding two Spirit Echo cards, cut a Devolve, and added two Mana Tide Totem. These changes allow you to answer the early rush, trade and probably die, but revive elementals to play again. At some point your opponent doesn't have enough fire power to stave off another round of elementals as they get bigger and bigger.
I'm finally satisfied KlusaSan.
This deck is a lot of fun! Definitely enjoyed playing it. Thanks for the list, KlusaSan :)
I made a video of me playing a few games and I hope at least someone enjoys it! Thanks again!
Hey dude, nice video, just lemme give u a bit of advice: u had some minor mistakes during the first two games, but the last game u threw it hard when u first traded the aya, giving him a 7/7 on spot instead of simply killing the 6/6 with alakir and servant. The turn after u shouldn't have played faceless on top, rather get rid of the board with devolve and bloodlust that could've saved u another turn after the first mistake with blackpaw. U just don't want to kill aya as soon as he gets at least a 6/6, let him do that himself to save time when ur in trouble.
After watching the games I wonder if I should strenghten the card draw, cause obviously many games run into late game, where we can't really afford to topdeck, let's see.. so.thanks for the work :)
Hey, nice deck. Any replacement for the thalnos?
Since I only use him for controlled spell dmg, maybe the 2/2 with spelldmg..otherwise add any 1/2 mana drop u think would fit
Nice Deck. First Elemental Shaman Deck that actual work for me.
edit: Did you ever think to add Elise in this Deck?
Glad to hearbe ur doing well :)
In fact I did, after a super long match vs Control Priest, but I think that's the only matchup where u could get value out of it, card draw is weak in our deck and other matches wouldn't usually take so long. But feel free to try!
Stone Sentinel replacement?
If u want a taunt, maybe white eyes or thing from below. Aya blackpaw might work too, cause it provides 3 minions in one
Hey take a look at my deck
there is no similar decks around and i never got a mirror match, so i think this is a brand new shaman type
I've got a 75% winrate with it, it works perfect against druid or mage
Think this is slightly similar to concede shaman, great list!
I made a list S38 that looked almost the same. I got Legend the at the end but since then I made so many changes ( including Jade package + Waterspeaker for more heal) . Now it's good vs aggro ,burn mage , and decent vs any control deck , but weaker vs QR Jadedruid. Looks like I have to change again.
elemental is my favorite in Un'goro expansion, thanks for making this deck great again :)
here my game vs burn mage which popular right now :) enjoy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrc2nAEYBWo&feature=youtu.be
nice match :) would´ve recommended you to keep at least one Kalimos as a backup for his Alex, tho.
After playing with this deck I can't say it's the best Shaman deck I've used. That would go to a hybrid Jade/Elemental deck or an Evolve deck. The problem here is the deck doesn't really have a way to build or defend against early pressure. No flame totem no jade claws. The draw power is especially bad. You're just praying each turn the right elemental comes along and they may or may not. Thanks for your deck though and glad you found success.
Hey man. Glad you like it! Against the bad draw you might include another Mana Tide, but other than that it´s the same meh draw as any other Shaman deck :P the discover cards should help a bit tho, I mostly start getting low on cards in the later stages of game, f.e. vs. Priests
However, I included a high in the 3 mana section to provide some good defence options and so far I never fell back too far in 1 or 2 turns :)
no idea why you're not running jade claws its so good at shutting down early pressure
It´s just that I don´t have any space for it. And it´s only partially efficient, since it can´t clear Bilefin from Pala, Mana Wyrm from Mage or Northshire Priestess from Priest
I already tested those variations and I find stone sentinel more efficient cause of the synergy with bloodlust. One fire plum harbinger is enough imo, most of the times we can only play one early on anyway without falling back immediately and later on we don't need it anymore
U might try cutting faceless for jinyu if you feel a lack of heal, but 7/7 is always strong, early and late. When I play vs control mage I always managestrong to pull another kalimos out of servant, maybe just lucky :P
Had one in the list, sure can be useful but the slot is flexible and I don't really miss it