Meta-destroying Tempo Rogue
- Last updated Jun 3, 2017 (Un'Goro Launch)
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Wild
- 21 Minions
- 9 Spells
- Deck Type: Ranked Deck
- Deck Archetype: Pirate Rogue
- Crafting Cost: 9760
- Dust Needed: Loading Collection
- Created: 6/1/2017 (Un'Goro Launch)
- mangomonkay
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Update: Thanks so much to everyone for your interest in this deck! It is such an honor to be able to make it to the front page of Hearthpwn! Thanks!!
Hi, this deck has carried me to legend this season. It is crafted specifically to handle all types of match-ups on the wild ladder. It has enough aggression to keep up with aggro decks, while also having a stronger mid-game, and it has the burst to beat control decks. This is also my first deck that I'm posting to Hearthpwn even though I've been a member for a while now, so if you have any suggestions on how to make it even better, please drop me a comment!
First, a little about myself. My name is Mangomonkay#1147 and I have been playing since beta. I have consistently reached Legend rank many times using different original decks. I am also an arena player with about a 7 win average. I am completely F2P;I have never spent a single cent on this game, have never crafted a card using dust, and have only played with decks using the cards I currently own (yes you heard me, all the cards, including legendaries, that I use were pulled from packs, NEVER CRAFTED A SINGLE CARD.) All the cards I use were all pulled from packs, meaning often times I have to use alternatives to powerful cards found in other popular decks, even common cards. I just basically want to say that even F2P players can have success in this game : D
Reaching legend in May 2017:
I can post a guide if this gets many views.
Update: Thanks so much everyone for all the interest in this deck! I'll try to continually update this with more in-depth commentary for this deck:
MULLIGAN
This is just a rough guideline. Mulligan depends heavily upon who you are facing. I will explain more in the next section.
Without the coin:
- Backstab
- Swashburglar
- Southsea Deckhand (don't keep against priest if you don't have Ship's Cannon, but even then don't play turn 1 against priest)
- Ship's Cannon
- Undercity Valiant (against possibly aggressive opponents like rogues, druids, and warriors, valued more if you already have a 1-drop or Backstab)
- Southsea Captain (ONLY if you have Ship's Cannon, since you can turn 2 cannon, turn 3 Southsea Captain for massive tempo of 2 cannon shots and 2/2 charge minion. This is even better if you also have a 1-drop already.)
- SI:7 Agent (ONLY if you have Backstab)
With coin (having coin is so much better than not having it with this deck):
OPENING STRATEGIES/COMBOS
This is probably the hardest part of the deck. Whether you can win a match-up or not depends heavily on what you do in the first few turns. Remember, this deck is all about TEMPO. Try to establish board dominance as quickly as possible because it's not easy to come back from behind with this deck. But against aggressive decks, sometimes you have to plan out your turns ahead of time and not throw everything down immediately.
1. Rogue's dagger hero power is the best early game hero power in the game. Oftentimes, it's not wrong to simply dagger up turn 2 and not do anything with it until later. In some situations, such as facing other aggressive decks like pirate warrior, quest rogue, token druid, etc., dagger turn 2 and saving your Southsea Deckhand for turn 3 can help you steal board pressure away, especially if you can play another 2 drop like Ship's Cannon and Undercity Valiant on turn 3.
2. Most opponents you face now carry some form of turn 2 removal. (Warrior with Fiery War Axe, Mage with Frostbolt and occasionally Flamecannon, Druid with Wrath, Priest with Shadow Word: Pain, Hunter with Quick Shot, Rogue with Eviscerate or Backstab + Dagger, Shaman with Lightning Bolt and aggro Shaman with Rockbiter Weapon and Crackle.) Understand this and learn to play around these for you're important minions like Ship's Cannon and Southsea Captain. For Ship's Cannon, don't drop it on an empty board turn 2 unless your opponent threw away all their cards in the mulligan. Remember, especially against aggressive opponents, saving your Ship's Cannon for a turn 3 play with a 1 drop pirate while dagger-ing turn 2 might be the correct play. If you have no strong turn 3 play, and are likely to only play a Ship's Cannon on turn 3, then play it turn 2 for the tempo as if the opponent can't remove it, you have a good chance to make a powerplay turn 3.
3. Play for the board in the early-game. This means running your 2/2 buffed Patches the Pirate or 3/2 buffed Southsea Deckhand into the opponent's 1/1 (1/3 minion like Sir Finley Mrrgglton, Northshire Cleric, and Tunnel Trogg too for Southsea Deckhand, especially if the opponent is playing an aggressive deck, even if they have a hero power that can deal 1 damage. Remember: when you have stuff on the board and they don't, they not only have to put stuff on the board, but also have to clear your stuff using mana to get board back. If they hero power to remove something, they are already behind on tempo, unless they're Rogue.
4. Sometimes, it's best to put out a Naga Corsair on turn 4 or 5 without using it's battle-cry strictly for the having a minion on board.
5. Never keep 2 Backstab's in your opening hand. Remember: you can't have board dominance with just removal and no minions.
6. Good Early-game Combos:
Turn 2
- Backstab + Dagger Hero Power: 3-damage removal
- Backstab + Undercity Valiant: 3-damage removal, 3/2 body
- Backstab + The Coin + SI:7 Agent: 4-damage removal, 3/3 body
- Backstab + The Coin + Edwin VanCleef: 2-damage removal, 6/6 body
- Backstab + Eviscerate: 6-damage removal (for those freak cases when the opponent Rogue puts out a turn 2 6/6 monster Edwin VanCleef)
Turn 3
- Dagger Hero Power + Southsea Deckhand: great if you still have a Ship's Cannon on board from turn 2 (8-damage potential)
- The Coin + Naga Corsair if you dagger-ed turn 2 (good for removing a 3 health priority minion your opponent put turn 2: 2 atk weapon + Patches the Pirate)
- Southsea Deckhand + Undercity Valiant if you dagger-ed turn 2: potential 4-damage
- Ship's Cannon + Southsea Deckhand: great to play after a turn 2 Ship's Cannon or turn 2 dagger
- Southsea Captain + The Coin + Southsea Deckhand if you dagger-ed turn 2: potential 6-damage
- Backstab + SI:7 Agent: 4-damage removal, 3/3 body
BASIC EXPLANATION OF CARD CHOICES
I am adding in this section to explain some of the reasoning behind my card choices. It can also help you see what cards to modify in your own decks to meet your needs.
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2x Backstab: One of the defining cards of tempo rogue, 2-damage removal and combo set-up, MUST HAVE.
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1x Shadowstep: This card allows the deck to close-out so many match-ups. The best way to use it is with Leeroy Jenkins to deal at least 12 burst damage, but it has great synergy with other cards too like Southsea Deckhand, Undercity Valiant, SI:7 Agent. If you can bounce back a Southsea Deckhand with Ship's Cannon on the board, you can think of it as 4 more damage for 0 mana. In some matchups like against control Mage or Shaman (with all its aoe clears), bouncing back Loatheb to use again can help you win the matchup by giving your minions 1 more turn to attack. I only put in 1 because I feel 2 will make the deck more clunky and drawing 2 in your hand will basically make you lose. Most of the time, it's solely used for finishing.
*Sorry I'm out of time right now, I will finish this section later...*
GAME-ENDING BURSTS
I know some combos are near-impossible to pull off, but I put them in just for fun : P
2-mana
- Patches the Pirate + Cold Blood: 5-damage
- Patches the Pirate + Shadowstep + Patches the Pirate + Cold Blood: 6-damage
- Southsea Deckhand + Cold Blood (with weapon): 7-damage
- Southsea Deckhand + Shadowstep +Southsea Deckhand + Cold Blood (with weapon): 9-damage
3-mana
- Patches the Pirate + Eviscerate: 5-damage
- Southsea Deckhand + Eviscerate (with weapon): 7-damage
- Patches the Pirate + Southsea Deckhand + Cold Blood (with weapon): 8-damage
- Patches the Pirate + Cold Blood+ Cold Blood: 9-damage
- Southsea Deckhand + Southsea Deckhand + Cold Blood (with weapon): 9-damage
- Patches the Pirate + Shadowstep + Patches the Pirate + Cold Blood+ Cold Blood: 10-damage
- Southsea Deckhand + Cold Blood+ Cold Blood (with weapon): 11-damage
- Southsea Deckhand + Southsea Deckhand + Shadowstep + Southsea Deckhand + Cold Blood (with weapon): 11-damage
- Southsea Deckhand + Shadowstep + Southsea Deckhand+ Cold Blood+ Cold Blood (with weapon): 13-damage
4-mana
- Patches the Pirate + SI:7 Agent: 3-damage
- SI:7 Agent + Shadowstep on SI:7 + SI:7 Agent (if you can play Backstab before combo): 4-damage
- Southsea Deckhand + SI:7 Agent (with weapon): 5-damage
- Southsea Deckhand + Southsea Deckhand + Cold Blood+ Cold Blood (with weapon): 13-damage
- Southsea Deckhand + Southsea Deckhand + Shadowstep + Southsea Deckhand+ Cold Blood+ Cold Blood (with weapon): 15-damage
5-mana
- Patches the Pirate + SI:7 Agent + Shadowstep on SI:7 + SI:7 Agent: 5-damage
- Southsea Deckhand + SI:7 Agent + Shadowstep on SI:7 + SI:7 Agent (with weapon): 7-damage
- Southsea Deckhand + Southsea Deckhand + SI:7 Agent (with weapon): 7-damage
- Southsea Deckhand + Southsea Deckhand + Shadowstep + Southsea Deckhand + SI:7 Agent (with weapon): 9-damage
- Patches the Pirate + Southsea Deckhand + Southsea Deckhand + Cold Blood+ Cold Blood (with weapon): 13-damage: 14-damage
- Patches the Pirate + Southsea Deckhand + Southsea Deckhand + Shadowstep + Southsea Deckhand+ Cold Blood+ Cold Blood (with weapon): 16-damage
6-mana
- Leeroy Jenkins + Patches the Pirate: 7-damage
- Leeroy Jenkins + Southsea Deckhand (with weapon): 9-damage
- Leeroy Jenkins + Cold Blood: 10-damage
7-mana
- Leeroy Jenkins + Patches the Pirate + Cold Blood: 11-damage
- Leeroy Jenkins + Patches the Pirate + Shadowstep + Patches the Pirate + Cold Blood: 12-damage
- Leeroy Jenkins + Southsea Deckhand + Cold Blood (with weapon): 13-damage
- Leeroy Jenkins + Cold Blood + Cold Blood: 14-damage
- Leeroy Jenkins + Southsea Deckhand + Shadowstep + Southsea Deckhand + Cold Blood (with weapon): 15-damage
8-mana
- Leeroy Jenkins + Patches the Pirate + Eviscerate: 11-damage
- Leeroy Jenkins + Shadowstep + Leeroy Jenkins: 12-damage
- Leeroy Jenkins + Southsea Deckhand + Eviscerate (with weapon): 13-damage
- Leeroy Jenkins + Patches the Pirate + Southsea Deckhand + Cold Blood (with weapon): 14-damage
- Leeroy Jenkins + Patches the Pirate + Cold Blood+ Cold Blood: 15-damage
- Leeroy Jenkins + Southsea Deckhand + Southsea Deckhand + Cold Blood (with weapon): 15-damage
- Leeroy Jenkins + Patches the Pirate + Shadowstep + Patches the Pirate + Cold Blood+ Cold Blood: 16-damage
- Leeroy Jenkins + Southsea Deckhand + Cold Blood+ Cold Blood (with weapon): 17-damage
- Leeroy Jenkins + Southsea Deckhand + Southsea Deckhand + Shadowstep + Southsea Deckhand + Cold Blood (with weapon): 17-damage
- Leeroy Jenkins + Southsea Deckhand + Shadowstep + Southsea Deckhand + Cold Blood+ Cold Blood (with weapon): 19-damage
9-mana
- Leeroy Jenkins + Patches the Pirate + SI:7 Agent: 9-damage
- Leeroy Jenkins + Southsea Deckhand + SI:7 Agent (with weapon): 11-damage
- Leeroy Jenkins + Shadowstep + Leeroy Jenkins + Patches the Pirate: 13-damage
- Leeroy Jenkins + Shadowstep + Leeroy Jenkins + Southsea Deckhand (with weapon): 15-damage
- Leeroy Jenkins + Shadowstep + Leeroy Jenkins + Cold Blood: 16-damage
- Leeroy Jenkins + Southsea Deckhand + Southsea Deckhand + Cold Blood+ Cold Blood (with weapon): 19-damage
- Leeroy Jenkins + Southsea Deckhand + Southsea Deckhand + Shadowstep + Southsea Deckhand+ Cold Blood+ Cold Blood (with weapon): 21-damage
10-mana
- Leeroy Jenkins + Southsea Deckhand + Southsea Deckhand + SI:7 Agent (with weapon): 13-damage
- Leeroy Jenkins + Patches the Pirate + Southsea Deckhand + Southsea Deckhand + Cold Blood+ Cold Blood (with weapon): 19-damage: 14-damage
- Leeroy Jenkins + Shadowstep + Leeroy Jenkins + Cold Blood + Cold Blood: 20-damage
- Leeroy Jenkins + Patches the Pirate + Southsea Deckhand + Southsea Deckhand + Shadowstep + Southsea Deckhand+ Cold Blood+ Cold Blood (with weapon): 22-damage
To be continued...
It might be a bad question ever ...
I dont have Edwin , could I be replaced ?
I would pick an overstatted minion or one that gives good tempo on board. Shaku, the Collector might be a pretty good alternative. If you need something more budget-friendly, you may want to consider a solid 4-drop like Tomb Pillager or Piloted Shredder. Hope this helps!
I'm not too fond of Questing Adventurer in this deck. You need to combo at least 2 cards to get value out of it; with Edwin VanCleef you only need 1 to get value, making it easier to get the value. I'd rather gear towards more consistent cards that can generate the tempo.
reached legend today with ur deck. solid 60% wr from rank 5. got my upvote
Congrats and glad the deck worked well for you!
i cant move up from rank 5 :'( but im glad i made it to 5
Haha I actually only went to rank 5 too this season for the rewards. I don't have as much time as before... : (
What's your battletag? Would like to see more from you
mangomonkay#1147
Replacements for Loatheb?
You can try Tinker's Sharpsword Oil
Fun deck and something different the quest and the normal things you see aha, I took a break from standard and went on a streak from 24-14 in wild with this deck lol
Glad it's working out for you! Have fun!
Yes, sometimes I do keep Southsea Captain in my hand despite not drawing Ship's Cannon. At worst, it will just a be a 3-mana summon a 3/3 and 2/2 to put stats on the board. It mainly depends on how confident you are about your early game. If your hand is junk, it's sometimes worth the gamble to throw the Southsea Captain away in hopes of better early-game plays. But if you have something already for the early turns, like a Swashburglar, you may choose to keep the Southsea Captain. With the mana distribution of this deck, it's not often that you don't have any play from turns 1-3. If that does happen, just know that it was very unlikely. The goal of this deck is to maintain board control in the early-game and use bursts or pure board dominance to close out. When you consider anything during the mulligan, always make decisions with this idea in mind; in other words, if you think you won't be able to do get the board early on with the hand, take the risk and mulligan for better.
Hope this helps!
While ooze does help with the pirate warrior, it's often not impactful enough against many other match-ups. I think adding an ooze may occasionally swing the game for you, but it's not consistent enough and most of the time will only be a 3/2 for 2 mana.
Never tried him in this deck. What would you replace to fit him in?
**** this guy opening Dr boom
Sometimes lucky? : D
and ragnaros, edwin, leeroy, patches **** this F2P guy