[S31 Legend#2EU #3Asia] SMOrc Hunter
- Last updated Oct 19, 2016 (Yogg Nerf)
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Wild
- 12 Minions
- 16 Spells
- 2 Weapons
- Deck Type: Ranked Deck
- Deck Archetype: Face Hunter
- Crafting Cost: 3200
- Dust Needed: Loading Collection
- Created: 10/5/2016 (Yogg Nerf)
- C4mlann
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Hey Guys,
this is the newest version of facehunter (post nerf Yogg), my teammate Xzirez and I came up with.
Video about decklist, gameplay and for those who need legend proof :)
Another video (in German) of me playing the deck vs Tempo Mage. I have had big problems vs tempo mage, but if you play it right, you will be around 60% winrate. Keep Removal and kill every minion.
2,5h video of me playing the deck (most of the comment is in German) on legend ladder EU. Staying top5 all the time, peaking at #2: twitch permalink
Mulligan:
without coin:
You want to have a one drop creature T1. This is the reason I prefer playing 5 one drop creatures over 4 in facehunter. Fiery Bat is sometimes better than Argent Squire (vs Druid e.g.) most of the time it is the other way round (vs. shaman e.g.). Always keep Cat Trick because your opponent will trigger it unless he coins T1 (Totem Golem e.g.). Try to find a good three drop like Cloaked Huntress on top ;)
Kindly grandmother + eaglehorn bow is also very good vs Shamans, cause u can get a perfect trade vs. Totem Golem.
with coin:
The slower your opponent's deck, the greedier your keep. Try to get Cloaked Huntress and a one drop. Keep traps that are good against your opponent on top of Eaglehorn Bow, cloacked huntress and Secretkeeper.
Playstyle:
You want to find the play that deals the most damage over the duration of the game. In most cases the problem is that you dont really exactly know the duration of the game, cause it depends on the upcomming draws and your opponents hand/answers. Try to figure out if your cards/total mana in hand will be enough till the end of the game. If not: start using steady shot! Use your hero power wisely. often it is fine to hero power T3/4 if you play sth. along with it.
Try to calculate everything! Most matchups will be very close, especially vs warrior. Every point of damage matters. The difference between a noob "I go only SMOrc" Facehunter and a really good one is perhaps 1-5 damage per game. but these points of damage will decide over winning or losing in so many cases. The hardest decissions are the ones, that are almost equal in dmg/value. Try to min max them! You need to topdeck lethal often in the end, which is fine cause you will have a ton of outs. Try to figure out your Win% for every line of play.
Traps:
Winning and losing with this deck will most of the time being decided by how many value/damage you got out of your traps. This is the hardest part to play but also the most rewarding and fun part about it. I have a very good winrate against control warrior e.g. cause I managed to lure them into the traps almost everytime. Do mindgames on rank3 or better! Bluff a trap by instantly playing it and play a very obvious trap while waiting 30secs, huffering over your cards and hero power. This will ofc only work vs better players who think about your actions.
Cat Trick is very strong vs Rogue, Druid, Warrior, soimetimes Shaman.
Snake Trap is good T2 (most of the time)
Explosive Trap lets you sometimes stall the game and unleash the hounds and steady shot will benefit from it.
Freezing Trap is very good against a Totem Golem and to protect your Cloaked Huntress. Try to isolate a enemy high cost minion (without taunt) and win.
Replacements:
Leeroy Jenkins: you can play either Reckless Rocketeer (same slot, just weaker) or Animal Companion (better card than rocketeer, but crowded 3mana slot). I've been testing Barnes as well and it might be the best replacement.
Snake Trap: Snipe fits into the deck as well :)
Cat Trick: You ll lose a lot of win% by replacing this one, would play one Snipe instead any maybe one Dire Wolf Alpha or Barnes.
Quick Shot: This card isn't really replaceable, because it is direct damage and card draw, which you both need. If you don't have it, you need to higher your mana curve, making the deck slower. Barnes, Animal Companion, Reckless Rocketeer, Wolfrider will work, but weaken the deck.
FAQ:
Why don't you run Animal Companion? It is a strong card and definitly playable in the deck. If you roll Huffer your winrate is much higher for sure. Misha and especially Leokk most of the time aren't great and will perhaps lower your winrate (although Leokk has many synergies with your minions and unleash). The main problem is, that you already run so many 3 drops. If you want you can give it a try, replacing Fiery Bat or Argent Horserider.
Why do you play Argent Squire over Fiery Bat? Personally I like Fiery Bat more in face hunter cause it can deal one dmg more and is also activatesKill Command. There are 2 reasons why Argent Squire is still better at the moment: You need boardcontrol in the first few turns to win the game. Fiery Bat is way worse in terms of that. The 2nd aspects is that Squire is better against most other meta decks atm, especially shamans and warriors (e.g. Tunnel Trogg, Maelstrom Portal, Unstable Ghoul, Fiery War Axe). Fiery Bat is better against druids because it punishes a T2 wildgrowth. So, if more ppl will start playing druid again, switching makes sense.
I will keep this guide up to date. If you liked it, please leave me an upvote and a comment. If you didnt like it leave me a comment with critic ;)
Playing deck on stream: twitch.tv/c4mlann
and also check out: twitch.tv/vbsof
Also check out our teampage: https://flowesports.com/
videos from other ppl testing the deck:
What do you think about replacing 1 argent squire with 1 leper gnome?
only brainless retards plays face decks o\
I correct you, bro! Just brainless retards netdecking!! a face hunter deck and play that stupid stuff. Well, cheers to all this guys!
Making N´Zoth Pally great again! I´m happy with this, hope it gets more fans on ladder. 1+ and a huge Dankeschön to C4mlann
Hey C4mlann, awesome deck. The deck is challenging yet fun, i'm having trouble beating shaman with their tunnel trogg/feral spirit combo. Any tips for mulligan or defeating this? thanks!
All the shaman decks I've been playing against have ran Feral Spirit, I can't develop a board and maximize damage due to the taunts, I've had no issues against warriors and druids (surprisingly my highest win rates) but the shamans have been flattening my board with maelstrom/lightning and/or putting up taunts(feral spirit) to block my unleash/Leroy damage. I know I must be doing something wrong but for me it feels more like they counter me in a sense. Thanks for replying.
When do you stream? I'll come by and I'll see what you do.
Thanks! Currently at rank 5, lots of fun with this deck and surprisingly difficult to play.
Great deck C4mlann!
I wanted to know if you had any advice on the proper use of 'Tracking', as I'm not sure that I'm doing it correctly.
There are 2 main reasons when you want to use tracking. It's when you really need an out badly (e.g. fishing for lethal) or else you lose. Or you have spare mana. If you're asking about which cards to pick – that really really depends on what you need in that specific situation. Sometimes I take freezing traps, sometimes leeroy, sometimes even snake trap or kindly grandmother.
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Thanks mate SeemsGood
Thank you for this deck.
I just want to point out one 'mistake' I think I saw: In the first game against the warrior you play freezing and explosive trap in the same turn. However, you played freezing first, which is a capital mistake normally (it did not matter in that game particulary). What is your opinion on that matter?
Best of luck.
Hilarious running into all the smorc hunters... as an nzoth paladin ;). its like im being tickled !!!
I had never lost against a N'zoth Hunter with this deck tho Forcing paladin to activate freezing trap with his big drops is essential until you collect lethal hand. They always heal themselves like 20 hp but with hero power and weapon it is nothing.
hey you forgot to write %69 WR ;) you are welcome bro
hey need replacment for kharazan cards pls
Being a player who really enjoyed playing the old face hunter decks, I abosolutely love this deck. I've gone 21-2 (rank 14-7 in one sitting) with the deck since I picked it up, and my two losses were due to marginal misplays that didn't seem important, but ended up costing me the game (leaving the opponent at 2 life both times). The deck is super powerful, but requires more skill than previous iterations of the archetype
This deck is really good, however I do have some questions. The main question is why do you play kindly grandmother? It just seems kind of awkward in the deck because it is a 2 mana 1/1. In a face deck it seems awkwardly placed. I would take it out for animal companion but there are a lot of three drops. What do you think.
The worst deck. . Please delete it
Yes it is. This is a worst hunter. Usually hunter is good against warrior and priest. Now these are difficult matches. The rest are even or worst, ,maybe chaman and mage...but it is not worthy. if you don't draw the bow, you lose.
I hope your video :)