Standard Miracle Rogue
- Last updated May 22, 2016 (Old Gods)
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Wild
- 13 Minions
- 17 Spells
- Deck Type: Ranked Deck
- Deck Archetype: Miracle Rogue
- Crafting Cost: 8120
- Dust Needed: Loading Collection
- Created: 2/19/2016 (Explorers)
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Battle Tag:
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Hey, i've watched the VODs of yesterday's Curse Standard Tournament, and i've managed to get all the cards Ostkaka used against Firebat and SuperJJ.
I'm not quite sure about whether he plays 2 Conceal or 2 Fan of Knives but imo it would make no sense to play only 1 Conceal , especially running no charge minion.
Feel free to correct me if you think I made any mistake.
Also, if you want to play it on ladder now, i would suggest taking out 1 Shiv to add 1 Fan of Knives considering Muster for Battle
Edit : the tournament is now over and the list was right
i posted this list for rogue fans (like me) who may be tired of playing oil or malygos rogue.
But you have to keep in mind that :
-this deck is made to be played in standard format with no lightbomb, no horreb, no boom, which are rly bad cards against this deck
-Ostakaka is world champion and an isane rogue player, he's playing pretty much perfectly and this deck is very "desicion making dependent" (idk if it's correct, please forgive my english)
-the best decks of the current meta have been dominant for monthes, whereas this deck is pretty new (the miracle mechanic isnt, but its pretty old and i dont think every person reading this was playing at the time), therefore the list may not be perfect, and we probably lack of experience with it
So don't expect 90% winrate with this deck
This post was originally a standard deck made by Ostkaka during the Curse Standard Tournament. (read spoiler for more details)
Standard is now out and here is the list i'm currently using
Changes possible (if you dont have all cards) :
Xaril, Poisoned Mind / Edwin VanCleef for a Violet Teacher, (teacher is probably as good as xaril, you might consider running it even if you own xaril)
Bloodmage Thalnos for 2nd Shiv Loot Hoarder / Kobold Geomancer ,eventho i would recommend crafting thalnos asap if you want to play this a lot
Tomb Pillager , those arent replaceable since gadgetzan costs 6, but you can temporarily play with teachers if you really need to
Leeroy Jenkins is not 100% needed with 2 Conceal, you can replace it with Southsea Deckhand + Faceless Manipulator , or just play without it
So, if I run the Southsea Deckhand + Faceless Manipulator version, where would I fit in the Violet Teacher?
I regretted disenchanting thalnos so the game gave me another. Then it gave me mukla, but I don't want to play mill rogue, I want to play miracle rogue! Oh well. Someday I'll get leeeeeeerooooooooooooooy jeeeeeennnnnghxqrshcggghnnnnnnnnkiiiiinnnnnnnnnnnnnsssss... someday
How important is Earthen Ring Farseer here? I would almost rather run Undercity Huckster, Swashburglar, or even Violet Teacher or Dark Iron Skulker. I know a lot of decks run ERF but it doesn't seem that important to me.
It depends on your matchups, if you find yourself clearing with dagger a lot and need healing then run it, if not just replace it with some thing that you need.
Southsea deckhand + 2 cold blood + faceless manipulator combo
Hey! So I'd like your opinion on this, Im not too familiar with miracle rogue, Im not at all actually and I don't own Xaril or Edwin. What I did is that I took out a conceal, added a Faceless Manipulator, replaced Xaril by a teacher and added Emperor Thaurissan to fill in Edwin's spot. Im looking forward to crafting Edwin but what do you think of the deck for now?
Cheers!
There is another type of rogue you can build with emperor using malygos. If you have the card i suggest you try out the deck and see if it suits you more. You basically otk them with spells using some thing along the lines of maly sinister sinister evi evi. Alternatively you can replace edwin with a questing adventurer and use conceals to cover it for the first few turns.
Thanks for the reply man! I have been playing a miracle rogue running questing and I actually like him more then Edwin! I am already familiar with Maly Rogue and its not really my type of deck, thanks though! Anyways, cheers man.
I think Leeroy Jenkins is better. He ishalf the reason whyCold Blood is insane. He is also crazy good in warlock decks (both renolock and zoolock) if you ever play that. There aren't really any other good neutral charge minion that can replace him. Reckless Rocketeer [/card]is probably the closest you get but that is one more mana and one less attack, which are all you care about in a game ending charge minion.
[card]Bloodmage Thalnos on is also great and fills a unique role of cycle and spelldamage. However I regretted crafting him, but never regretted crafting Leeroy.
Sry if this is too late but you should craft Thalnos, as Leeroy Jenkins can be replaces with Southsea deckhand 2 Cold bloods and Faceless manipulator.
So instead of one card you need 4 cards and a weapon equipped? Seems reasonable. lol.
Not exactly, instead of leeroy you need southsea and manip, you can use the cold bloods earlier but that would make ur combo MUCH less powerful, you need 2 or more hits with a cold blooded minion to get value and you some times need to draw with gadgetzan. Leeroy is pretty much better in every case, even though it has 6 less damage without shadow step, it has the same maximum burst, needs less cards, and is less combo oriented (leeroy + shadowstep = 12 damage leeroy + CB = 10 damage southsea + cold blood = 6 damage). So yes, it is much worse but leeroy is a legendary after all :P. also, if you know u'll do the combo the following turn or have a high chance to draw into it (for example with stealthed gadgetzan against a zoolock) you should save your dagger if u dont need the burst and the whole combo is 8 man so it's combo-able with eviscerate and such, making the "real" max burst 24 without prep, coin or spell damage whereas leeroy cold blood cold blood shadowstep leeroy is 10 mana for 20 damage or leeroy cold blood cold blood is 14 damage for 7 mana. So even though both have their advantages leeroy, almost always, comes out on top.
Well Thalnos is easily replaced by Kobold Geomancer, just one less cycle card
Xaril can be replaced with violet teacher, and leeroy kinda with reckless rocketeer , but if u have the dust you should craft leeroy.
South sea, double cold blood and faceless manip.
woops missing one prep
i can't really advise you since i got thalnos so early in the game. Drawing is obviously important, and so does spell damage (especially with no flurry you may need that 2/3 damage fan of knives). I guess it depends on wether you face a lol of zoo-like decks (kobold) or more controlish decks (loot hoarder to cycle)
2nd Shiv is better than your suggestions IMO. Honestly though just craft him, he is amazing in many decks you won't regret it.
I didnt even think about shiv lol i'm retarded
Bloodmage is really important on rogue decks. If you are a heavy rogue user, you will not regret crafting him. He is a staple in rogues in any meta and has seen play more than Edwin.. All of the subs are a bit underwhelming tbh. Cycle and spell damage can be very impactful, Bloodmage allows huge tempo swings with 3 damage backstab and + 5 dmg Eviscerate, or make fan of knives 2 damage board sweeper. Bloodmage is a high enough threat that it forces your opponent to kill him. After a board sweep, you essentially force your opponent to spend mana for hero power or a card to get rid of him.