[Legend Top100] Kharan Chaos Control Hunter (v2...
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Wild
- 18 Minions
- 10 Spells
- 2 Weapons
- Deck Type: Ranked Deck
- Deck Archetype: Unknown
- Crafting Cost: 8740
- Dust Needed: Loading Collection
- Created: 2/8/2016 (Explorers)
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Hey Everyone,
Maybe you remember my older versions of this deck ([Legend Top50] Kharan Chaos Control Hunter). Since closed Beta I mainly played control hunter and reached legend quite often with it.
With the new League of Explorer additons I was able to hit Legend Top100 again last season. I got a lot of requests for a new decklist, so here it is.
General
The first thing you will notice is that im using Reno. Because of him I play every card only one time (no dublicates). 30 unique cards allow maximal versatility. So every turn you have more different cards to choose from and never find yourself in a situation in which you got the same useless card two times in hand.
The main problem of a controlly approach at hunter is the card draw. Thats why you need high value cards and a lot of ways to draw/save cards. You play this deck passively. In general you mulligan for low cost defensive cards and control the board until your opponent runs out of steam.
I guess most people only played Face or Midrange Hunter and it could be hard to adapt to this passive playstyle. You are always defending/clearing the board and don't push for face damage.
The Cards
Your strongest removal tool. Combos with Wild Pyromancer, Baron Geddon, Dreadscale. Also lets your small starter minions trade into big enemys.
The strongest hunter card in my opinion. You get three additional options to choose from and are able to draw important cards faster. (Like Reno Jackson)
Must have for a control hunter! Hunter has the only hero power that doesnt interact with the board or gives you a control advantage. This problem is solved with this card. Try to choose:
Control/Midrange: Warlock > Mage > Druid > Priest > Paladin > Shaman > Warrior > Rogue
Against Aggro: Priest > Warrior > Mage > Druid > Warlock > Paladin > Shaman > Rogue
Good for starting. Lets you draw and combos with Kill Command. If I draw it later in the game I sometimes sacrifice it with Baron Geddon/ Dreadscale/ Wild Pyromancer to faster draw a stronger minion.
Weapons are always good for control. Especially if you got Reno Jackson already in hand. You can trade into two minions and just get the health back later. For 2 Mana it is a great starting tool and damage bonus if you try to run the enemy down when you already changed you hero ability to something different.
This card is made for control hunter. It is like a second hero ability and works great with a lot of small minions in this deck (Wild Pyromancer/Acolyte of Pain). Also always sticks to your hand which is a kind of draw and can be used on remaining unspend mana like the hero ability.
Hunters strongest trap. Two board- and facedamage for two mana. Very useful against any kind of aggro deck. Lets you survive the early turns until you can stabilize the board. I play only one trap because it isnt just worth for 1x Eaglehorn Bow and Freezing Trapis often a waste against aggro decks.
Standard removal tool. Lets you gain time in the early rounds. Does 4 damage with spell damage to clear for great value and sometimes also draws a card at last resort.
Good for starting. Lets you draw and combos with Kill Command/Quick Shot/Explosive Shot/Explosive Trap/Powershot. If I draw it later in the game I sometimes sacrifice it with Baron Geddon/Dreadscale/Wild Pyromancer to faster draw a card.
Good for starting. Lets you draw and combos with Kill Command. There are a lot of good 3 mana hunter control cards that you get most of the time from this: Eaglehorn Bow, Unleash the Hounds, Kill Command, Deadly Shot, Powershot, Dreadscale, Animal Companion
Good for starting. Lets you draw sometimes and combos with Kill Command. With a lot of highmana minions you have a good chance to draw a card. If you not is it still a 3/2 beast for 2 mana.
Very versatile card. Combos with Hunter's Mark/Acolyte of Pain/Explorer's Hat (For up to 3 Board Damage) or can be used like 'spelldamage' to do 1 extra damage to clear something.
Second weapon in the deck. Weapons are always good for control. Especially if you got Reno Jackson already in hand. You can trade into 2-3 minions and just get the health back later. For 3 Mana it is a great starting tool and damage bonus if you try to run the enemy down when you already changed you hero ability to something different. Also combos with Explosive Trap
Solid Minion. Every companion has a role in this deck. Also counts as a spell for Wild Pyromancer and doesnt count as a low mana minion for King's Elekk
Good control removal. Very strong against other control decks and ok against aggro. The amount of board damage in this deck helps to clear small minions so this card can target the big ones without relying on luck.
You have 5 Beasts to combo this. 5 Damage is awesome to clear a lot of big 5 health minions. Othewise is 3 Damage for 3 Mana not the best effect but also not the worst. This deck needs a lot of removal and while other cards might be stronger, we can only play one copy.
An active Explosive Trap! Very strong against aggro and especially with spelldamage or Wild Pyromancer for a 3 Damage board clear. It rarely happens that you end up in a situation where your opponent got more than 3 minions, so 3 targets are more than enough.
My favorite hearthstone card. Lets you draw at least one card and combos great with Dreadscale, Baron Geddon, Wild Pyromancer, Explorer's Hat to draw 2-3 cards. Often you can also attack a 1-2 attack minion to draw an additional card without help.
Very strong for control. Just like a small Baron Geddon can he be used to clear small minions and to combo with Hunter's Mark/Acolyte of Pain/Kill Command
Solid minion and used to finish other control decks. This card is needed if you want to win against priests or warriors otherwise you will run out of steam in the end.
Fills the second 4 mana spot. Not a strict control card but it is just too good to skip it.
Very underrated card! It's a +1 Mana Swipe that does +1 damage. Often clears a 5 health minion and 1-2 smaller ones. Can easily turn a game arround and helps to keep the board clean. Also really strong with spelldamage.
The deck needs good draw and profits of spelldamage. Combos with Kill Command/Quick Shot/Explosive Shot/Explosive Trap/Powershot.
Important effect to block your enemy and secure your board or health. Very strong against control warrior, freeze mage or rogue. It is hard to keep minions on board in these matchups and sometimes you are not able to damage them enough, especially with a changed hero power. This card gives you at least one turn in which you can pressure your enemy.
Gap filler. Very strong minion, sticky and used against aggro to buy time.
Key Card and perfect for control. Try to play as fast as possible. Allows you empty your hand much faster and play big threats. Many combos are much easier to do and he buys time because your opponent has to kill him next turn.
The deck is build around him. Try to mulligan/track him at every game except for Warrior/Priest. Always keep in mind that you got him in deck. He allows you to do costly weapon attacks, use the warlock hero power and destroy aggro decks. Against control warrior and priest I sometimes play him even if im still at 20+ Health, just to keep board presence. Do not be too greedy and don't wait too long to play him, 10-20 Heal are more than enough to turn the game around.
Underestimated removal tool! 2 board damage and a 7/5 minion for 7 Mana is really strong for this deck. He also combos with Acolyte of Pain/Hunter's Mark. Even if the opponent uses Big Game Hunter his effect already triggered and at least he killed some minions and eats a card from the enemy. Sometimes he can even be used to finish a game when 2 dmg are missing for lethal.
Strongest minion in the game.
Your late game draw engine. Very hard to remove when he sits on board. Really important against other control decks and good against midrange. Draw really is the biggest weakness of the control hunter and this card prevents that you run out of steam in the end.
Mulligan
Good in any matchup:
Against Aggro: (Hunter, Shaman, Paladin, Warlock, Rogue)
Against Control: (Warrior, Priest, Druid)
Budget options / possible changes:
Bloodmage Thalnos -> Loot Hoarder / Mad Scientist
Ysera -> King Krush / Savannah Highmane
Baron Geddon / Dr. Boom -> Ragnaros the Firelord / Savannah Highmane
Dreadscale -> Unleash the Hounds
Matchups:
Good (+50% Winrate): Druid, Zoolock, Patron Warrior, Freeze Mage, Tempo Mage, Aggro Shaman, Rogue, Face Hunter, Mid-Range Paladin, Mid-Range Hunter, Aggro Pally,
Decent (~50% Winrate): Secret Paladin, Murloc Paladin, Control Priest, Control Warrior
Bad (-50% Winrate): RenoLock, Dragon Priest
Tutorials / Videos:
Deck spotlight tutorial by RegisKillbin:
Deck played by Xatanael Hearthstone in legend ladder:
Deck played by Furo at Rank 9:
Deck played by Torlk et Marmotte in legend ladder (French)
These are for the old version, but the playstyle is still the same:
If there is great demand, I will play this deck on stream. (http://www.twitch.tv/teamoverrated_kharan)
Thanks everyone for the great support!
Did you loo at the deck before making an idiotic comment?
Due to missing Baron Geddon, I replaced it with Kel'Thuzad, also replaced Bloodmage Thalnos with Flare. I don't know, maybe Savannah Highmane will fit in better, but to my mind, with Kel'Thuzad it is a lot more fun))
It does. But you do you bro ^.^
If you want to post a criticism, it would be useful to point out why it's useless, with specifics on the problem areas.
Completely useless comment, stay away form it.
Have you tried adding a second wild pyro? You have to wait to draw one before Reno but it could help.
This is an interesting deck but how are you guys winning so much with it? I'm 2-8 with it at Rank 6 and my two wins were against control Warriors. The deck seems way too slow and reactive. Reno is nice but he doesn't win back the board. Every game I've had to Reno I've lost because their board is still full afterwards. Power Shot seems a bit weak as it is usually just out of range of some of the more important minions. Paladin seems to roll over this deck. None of the cards do anything against Challenger, Avenge is problematic for Power Shot, and they have too many minions for Deadly Shot. They Kings and what do you do? They play Tirion or Ragnaros and what do you do? Even just them playing Challenger is a problem. This deck seems like loads of fun to play but seriously I can't comprehend the win-rate. I know I'm not the best player by any means but this deck just seems to always be behind. It never feels like it is fully in control.
I'd say many people are trying it at the lower (higher) ranks. I've seen it up to rank 10 or so, but below that, there is no room for an experimental deck like this... It just gets steamrolled by the boring, but effective decks (You-know-which).
Put in a flare, helps a lot against secretpalas and freezemage, against others its still a 2 mana carddraw or in case of druids a good way getting naxramas shadows visible.
Your absolutely right. I play it on casual because i am on rank 5 and is very difficult to have success with him on that type of ranks. And is a new deck so... i need to do quest and want to play something fun.
Just learn to play hearthstone I guess...
El problema son los Patron Warrior, me resultan increíblemente difícil de limpiar. Ahora es cuando me doy cuenta que el Cazador no cuenta con una limpieza masiva de mesa.
Pero en General resulta un Deck divertido de jugar.
This deck is incredibly rewarding and fun to play.
Any room for Savannah Highmane? It would active kill command a lot easier and demands immediate removal.
I've seen Savjz play a Reno Hunter with this line-up using Savannah Highmane. The differences are:
-1 Explosive Trap
-1 Ysera
+1 Savannah Highmane
+1 Ragnaros the Firelord
You can give it a try to see if it works for you.
Completed my daily quest with this deck. At rank 13 I played two matches and won them both. Fun deck.
Having fun with the deck, even a 1 Health game against an aggro hunter, suddenly I draw a Reno Jackson and make him concede! Epic game! LOL and Unleash the Hounds made me win a game with exactly 2 damage to face instead of Dreadscale (because i don't have it)
Cool deck! Instead of Dreadscale, Baron Geddon and Bloodmage, I made mine faster with Arcane Golem, Argent Horserider and Wolfrider. End faster!!! :) GGs!
50% against secret pally isn't possible unless every secret pally you faced had an awful draw. in 10 games played i faced 9 secret pallys and lost all 9. deck might be playable in legend but certainly isn't while climbing
Just made this deck for my F2P alt minus some key cards and my first impression is a very positive one.
Through about 20 games @ Rank 10 I'm just over 50% 11-9 but I am missing 4 key cards:
Despite missing 4 priority legends in a control deck I was still able to pull off some win streaks which tells me this is more than just a whacky deck
If you have little-to-no experience playing any control at all then I highly recommend watching live streams before diving head first in.
+1 for a Playable Deck; +5 for Creativity
Love this deck! I was missing an acid maw and subbed an Unleash the Hounds for it. Also I felt that Secret Pally and Freeze Mage were too powerful against this deck so I dropped tracking for flare. One mana more, kills all enemy secrets, unstealths (like that ever matters, but hey, you never know) and the card draw makes up for the tracking ability. I won't lie, there have been a couple games that WITH tracking I was able to tracking a win card in a win-or-lose situation, but I have lost most my games against secret pally and freeze mage due to the inability to deal with a couple secrets.