Top100Eu Loyan's Scarab Control Shaman
- Last updated Nov 17, 2015 (Explorers)
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Wild
- 19 Minions
- 11 Spells
- Deck Type: Ranked Deck
- Deck Archetype: Unknown
- Crafting Cost: 8240
- Dust Needed: Loading Collection
- Created: 11/13/2015 (Explorers)
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Hey! It's me Loyan the biggest hearthstone masochist and I'm back with some new shaman archeotype which I had a lot of success at the ladder lately.
WARNING This topic is made by polish young scrob so be aware of english grama mistakes which can cause blindness. He propably made couple of them already, dont be harsh. Thanks.
Stats : http://imgur.com/H1AbfMc Deck + Highest Rank : http://imgur.com/HAwvViU
So I had this deck idea for a long time and with newest adventure I could complete it. I've never been a fan of control shaman, always was missing some cool 3drop and scarab changed it. It does fit my concept so I gave it a shot and it worked!
Scarab is just really cool card for shaman. We got hex, healing wave and aoes which costs 3. Also you can get bgh, acolyte just many solid cards. Don't forget that with newest wing we will get Brann Bronzebeard which just makes it even better.
First version of this deck had eggs instead of doomsayers which wasn't that bad idea. Set up eggs for ED/Volcanic turn, sounds cool right? Sadly agrro was owning me most of the time due to really bad early game. Putting doomsayers was perfect and there is not a single, better card for that. Making good trades is the key to win in heartstone and he allows you to do that, plus he's killing some units. The other cool thing about this deck is Ed/Volcanic Drake combo. With full wipeboard you are able to put 2x 6/4 units which is really strong. Overall the idea of this deck is to control game to the late game and just mill your opponent, atleast most of the time.
Took me some time understanding/learning all match-ups but thats everything I know.
Warrior
75% winrate is really good but honestly It wouldn't be that high against great players knowing how to play this match-up perfectly. This match-up is going for deathrattle nearly always so you don't want to play azure drakes as long you have to. If you put too much on the board it will get brawled so think before you click this 2mana golden totem! Keep hex, scarab, doomsayer and twilight plus remember not to pick some draw thing from scarab, obviously. Don't heal up before alexstrasza as long he has lethal.
Rogue
Haven't played that much against him but I'm nearly sure that it's slighty favoured for shaman. 4 taunts, 4aoes, 2heals hexes and loatheb, it just has to go for shaman as long rogue doesn't run assasin blade which is obviously OP against you. Keep Doomsayers, Hex against teacher, Ed and Loatheb. No special tacticts here to win this match-up
Priest
Not many priestes on the ladder but this deck just destroys them. They can't stack up to 60hp like warriors and looking that this is going to deathrattle it puts you in better spot. I should rather tell you how not to throw the game and it's ysera. He will cabal it and you are fucked. Try to bait it with sludges and you will be fine. And count cards! Don't play azure drakes when you don't have to. Muligan is simple: Earthshock against cleric because you still can't allow him to draw 10cards early. Hex, Ed, Doomsayer plus Twilight, Scarab
Mage
Tempo mage is favoured for shaman. The only secret play is to doomsayer his miror entity and remember to keep hex against antonidas when you can. Keep doomsayer, ed, scarab, hex and twilight. Freeze is 50/50 I would say, mostly comes down to joust on healing wave plus remember than you can have 4 of them if you're lucky.
Paladin
So this deck has problem with secret paladin. Creepers, Shreders and Shielded Minibot are sticky and you got problems dealing with them. Got somehow 50/50 but it should be lower. Lets surprise you with muligan: doomsayer, scarab, storm, ed, twilight(coin) ed and earthshock.
Midrange is way easier and it's really hard loosing to it. 4wipeboards hurt him too much, winning at 20cards deep most of the time. No special tacticts and muligan is the same.
Druid
Agrro one is a good match-up and doomsayer is most of the time enough. Don't forget about fel-rever at 5th turn and you will be good. Doomsayer, Hex, Storm, Ed, Twilight, Scarab
Midrange is bad and wild growth is enough to lose you the game. Healing waves are akward and it's really hard to build good board. He can burst you really easly so you live till he goes for Loatheb. Muligan is the same, just minus storm.
Warlock
Slow warlock is bad for shaman because he can easly go jaraxus and just own you with him so keep some presure all the time and don't make greedy doomsayers plays if you don't have to. Don't attack face due to moltens and just mill him. Reno is easy and as you could guess muligan is the same. Scarab, Earthshock, Hex, Doomsayer, Ed, Twilight
Finally Shaman
Favoured for you badly. 4 wipeboard, the same as paladin but shaman is propably scarier because of burst potencial. No secret plays, just play ed and win from that point. Doomsayer, Earthshock, Ed, Storm, Twilight, Scarab
Hunter
Nothing hard, just play around traps. Agrro one is unwinable without healing wave so keep it plus you can't be greedy with Ed (turn5) is just too late. Doomsayer, Twilight, Earthshock, Storm, Scarab The same muligan goes for midrange plus you just keep hex. It's also way easier to win because it's way slower and gives you more time to make great combos.
RENO DECKS
Overall does really well against them and as long it's not warlock and jaraxus you will win it.
Not fan of changing cards in decks so don't ask me, will not answer! but I will answer every other question, plus criticism is great!
Hope it wasn't the worst guide you've seen and it will help someone. Tried to make it the smallest guide ever, did put what you need to know.
SEllOUT TIME
www.twitch.tv/11point5ft - not many shamans alive but you can follow me to keep the shaman alive and my stream overall BibleThump www.twitter.com/Loyantv
Shout Out for MoreGamesThanSega because he gave me idea of scarabs and to every little happy reader after this long post.
Enjoy laddering!
Just tried this deck. Thoroughly enjoying it.
Here's what I changed:
- x1 Doomsayer +1 Sir Finley Mrrgglton
- x1 Neptulon +1 Justicar Trueheart
The finley/justicar combo saved me a ton. Usually I pick Armor up or Heal. Shapeshift is good, as well.
From what I've seen, mulligan for all removal is the way to go. Throw away everything except Elemental Destruction, Lightning Storm, and Jeweled Scarab. The key is to play slow... real slow if possible.. Shifting from rank 16 to 14. Still getting used to gameplay, but so far it's a ton of fun. Well done.
Hi ! Is Al'Akir the Windlord a good sub forNeptulon, as I don't have it ?
Yes, I believe so. Especially if you plan on playing this deck in standard, he gives you alot more finishing potential!
This is one of my favorite Shaman decks. I was doing well with it last season and just started using it again. Even games that I lose I'm usually pretty close. Was wondering what updates have been made to it by Loyan or other users since LoE came out.
I personally don't have a second Doomsayer or Neptulon so I replaced them with Piloted Shredder and Nefarian. Considering putting Sir Finley Mrrgglton and Arch-Thief Rafaam in those spots though.
eplacement for elemental destruction?
Hey Loyan, really cool deck thank you.
With the 4th wing of LoE released, there has been discussion about the viability of elise starseeker in control shaman...it seems that playing elise and holding the monkey til very late game could be very strong in control matchups, befor fatigue turning your last 4-5 cards into legendaries could strengthen your end game..it also adds a card to your deck helping the fatigue war.
any thoughts on adding elise as a possible win condition vs control? If so..what would you replace?
Sorry for my poor english.
I thought the same thing. I've been doing tests on what to take for the Elise and the best return so far is take one Doomsayer. I also took the Neptulion and put Nerfarian but only I did not have the Neptulion. I'm 84% win with this deck it was really well done.
No Alex?
@11point5ft: any update to the decklist? I know you made some modifications during your last streams, but i believe people would like to see those changes in here.
I would love to see them as well. I'm running today -1 ED and adding in Finley. http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/76840-finley-control
Really unplayable
Wtf, how to use doomsayer?!
I dusted almost all my cards to craft that deck, so i won just 1 time, i was 16 rank that morning, now 20
the worst "top-deck-from-famous-player" i have ever seen, top 100 from rank hell or something
16 cause of new month, was something like 11-12 )
dusting - why not, its just a game, i dont taking seriously about it ) 3-4 month and my card pool will be like before dusting, often doing something like that
Doomsayers are played in critical turns and/or when needed, to: soak damage, get silenced, or you expect a power play from your opponent.
You're probably just playing it wrong. Watch streams so you can learn how to pilot the deck properly.
You obviously do care or you wouldn't be telling us that you foolishly dusted your cards and ranting about how you don't know how to play the deck...
Mad russian kid. Shaman isn't as easy as your lovely face hunter huh?
Any replacements for doomsayers? Is there maybe a different route i could go with the deck if i dont have them ?
Nerubian Egg, Haunted Creeper and Annoy-o-Tron, being sticky minions. obviously they aren't the same as Doomsayer, but may work
updated my list to your very last, except Chillmaw (which i don't have). I replaced her with Nefarian. the changes have been working pretty good
Keep the good work
Loyan hasn't updated the deck in here, but the changes are visible in his stream from 2 days ago.
The changes were:
-1 Earth Shock
-1 Sludge Belcher
-1 Loatheb
-1 Volcanic Drake
+1 Brann Bronzebeard
+1 Chillmaw (i added nefarian instead)
+1 Blackwing Corruptor
+1 Charged Hammer