[S19] TOP 1 EU Weird Mage (Control)
- Last updated Oct 29, 2015 (Warsong Nerf)
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Wild
- 14 Minions
- 16 Spells
- Deck Type: Ranked Deck
- Deck Archetype: Unknown
- Crafting Cost: 5280
- Dust Needed: Loading Collection
- Created: 10/7/2015 (TGT Launch)
- minntzu
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Battle Tag:
2580
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Region:
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Total Deck Rating
304
Hi everybody, my name is Vicky (Zetaliowka). I'm current top 1 EU.
I'd like to share my mage deck with you. I was holding top 100 previous season season by playing this deck. It can remind you old duplicate mages, but since new expansions this archetype has got new possibilities. Here is a bit old version on a pic below:
IF YOU FOUND IKEALYOU's TAG HERE PLEASE FORGET IT AND DONT ADD HIM, DELETE HIM, AND FOLLOW HIS CHANNEL http://www.twitch.tv/ikealyou
Idea of deck
Beat everyone. I was trying to change freeze mage deck, so make it playable against druid / control warrior and dont lose its general strengths. I noticed that duplicate makes both those MU's better and including more tempo cards i could finally find decent list.
Dont expect fast and easy games, this deck has some broken synergy but you must make an effort to win. And also dont try it in aggro meta, it will work mostly against dragon priests, druids and control warriors.
This deck loses to Secret Paladin, any suggestions?
Deck was playable in controlish/tempo meta(priests, druids, warriors), replacing frostbolts with esplosive sheeps can help much vs paladins, but be careful with secrets in other MU's then, dont duplicate sheeps against warriors, druids etc.
Whats your win condition?
It doesnt have certain win condition, you can play in many different ways.
1. The most sweet is effigy and duplicate on your Emperor followed by Archimage with another secrets :D
Your opponents have to trade all this stuff on board but at the same time they are making situation even worse if they do.
1. Outvalue your opponent, works against any aggro.
2. You steal tempo with early doomsayer and lead the game on board.
3. You chill and watch in safety behind walls of belchers :D
4. Nobody knows how portal on t2 can change your gameplan.
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Twilight Drake vs Water Elemental
I didnt like Drakes because of the way people play around secrets. Nobody wants to kill a drake expecting duplicates, but elementals are annoying, they block weapons, druid's hero power, they arent saying what secret you have up so people may think you are tempo mage and make more mistakes against you.
Loatheb vs Nexus-Champion Saraad
Well, I dont have second card, but it can make your games more fun if you put Nexus.
WTF Portal?
It's a spell for Archimage, your turn 2(because frostbolt or doom you cant just play), reduced legendary/high drop, which can be broken with effigy in early game.
Matchups:
The best are: control warrior, druid, handlock
Good ones: any priest, midrange pala, tempo mage
50/50: mech decks, zoo, secret paladin, midrange hunter
Bad: face hunter, midrange shaman(assuming, because of hex)
I'm still experimenting and testing this deck, if you are interested, you can follow my stream:
http://www.twitch.tv/minntzu
Not streaming till i'm top 1 though.
Update: - 1Polymorph, + 1Portal, - Loatheb, + Healbot
Thijs made these changes, I agree with them and I hope its better for current meta. If you want to learn deck, I recommend to watch his latest streams: http://www.twitch.tv/thijshs/profile
Also learn from Eloise, she only plays this deck last time: http://www.twitch.tv/eloise_ailv/profile
If you'd like to see gameplay vs different types of priests, watch video from Khristophesaurus: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXIFbzQ1VUA
I'm really glad that there are people who believe in the idea of control mage and help to improve my deck. You are awesome.
Because you would face this exact deck 6 times on rank 17-12. You make a lot a sense, sir.
Reds are the trash freeze mage and the blues were tempo mages.
Get rekted son !
Do you listen to yourself ? You tried to rate this deck based on mages who had similar cards - not similar deck - because you even said the matches didn't last longer than turn 8.
Yet, you try to rate THIS deck because you faced some random guys with a frost nova on rank 17 thinking it's the same deck. LOL
EVEN if it was the exact same deck (which is fucking improbable as you probably couldn't even read a third a their decks), it's still rank 17, I'm sorry.
Give a low rank a Patron deck and play against him a few times. You probably would rate that deck bad (if you didn't know the deck) based on how he played and used his combos. And that is Patron, a really popular deck that you see everywhere, ranked, stream, tournaments... So people o low rank would still play it badly even though they partially know the win condition.
Now give someone a third of THIS particular mage deck (10 cards), now you add another 20 cards that may or may not be the rest of this deck. Now play against this person on rank 17, have a good curve on druid and win the game. DING DING. Time to rate this mage deck as "COMPLETE TRASH DECK" with all that knowledge.
And btw, even if those 6 mages with this exact deck had shit draws, they wouldn't all 6 die on turn 8.
from rank 5 to rank 9 and beyond, this deck is garbage, ill need to see the proof cuz i just dont believe it
1) every legend player grinds many hours a day to get legend and dont get higher than 60% winrate, dont expect instant legend especially with a hard deck like this
2) this likely isn't the deck he used to climb. the title is clickbait as most "rank 1" decks are - notice how he advertises his stream at the end......
i checked the Stream there is no record of any game
i've streamed this deck, and also planning do it tomorrow, i guess i dont have more screenshots with top 100, only 1 which is already in description (in spoiler). Didnt climb to legend with this list, did it with druid in 4 or 3 days. And here you can also find screenshot from my friend who was top 15 with this list. Its below in comments.
how do you Mulligan most of the time im dead before i can combo and i cant trade well because im getting overwhelmed too quick cuz they can kill doomsayer or just kill me, it work sometimes but not enough to climb back, feel like its too slow most of the time and if they can control doomsayer im screwed all the time
I'd also recommend to watch Thijs's latest stream, he was interested in the deck and made some changes, went with 65% winrate http://www.twitch.tv/thijshs/profile Since he is european champion, you can learn a lot from him, he played the deck perfectly.
Mulligan things: You almost always keep doomsayer, frostbolt and scientist, portal for sure. Dont wait for combo doom+nova, drop early doomsayer, just t2 against minibot/darnassus aspirant/etc, so gain a bit tempo, you play effigy next turn into water elemental t4, belcher t5, usually they dont kill 3/6 and have to deal with 5 drops.
I'm sorry but how are you considering druids one of the better matchups? I've played about 40 games with this deck so far and with the 9 druid matchups I've had I only won two. Other than that this deck is by far the funnest I have ever played :D
well, you cant make mistakes in this MU, if you lose tempo once, you'll never comeback, use early doomsayers t2-3, keep effigy and 4-5 drops against this class. i only lost those games when they had insane start with 2 innervates in first cards
its a good anti aggro card, but not sure if it can fit, explosive sheep might be better choice
Hi. I was testing some strange mage decks, seem to follow you line. Mad scientist+Ice block is good Vs ANY matchup.
What I can replace Doomsayer?
fuck you
Boom doesnt fit the deck.
Effigy and Duplicate are not good with Boom Bots. I think Ragnaros the Firelord would be better to use.
its good card vs secret paladin, i'd rather cut polymorph
well, this replacement made by thijs, 1 poly is enough for his opinion