[S19] TOP 1 EU Weird Mage (Control)
- Last updated Oct 29, 2015 (Warsong Nerf)
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Wild
- 14 Minions
- 16 Spells
- Deck Type: Ranked Deck
- Deck Archetype: Unknown
- Crafting Cost: 5280
- Dust Needed: Loading Collection
- Created: 10/7/2015 (TGT Launch)
- minntzu
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Battle Tag:
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Total Deck Rating
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Hi everybody, my name is Vicky (Zetaliowka). I'm current top 1 EU.
I'd like to share my mage deck with you. I was holding top 100 previous season season by playing this deck. It can remind you old duplicate mages, but since new expansions this archetype has got new possibilities. Here is a bit old version on a pic below:
IF YOU FOUND IKEALYOU's TAG HERE PLEASE FORGET IT AND DONT ADD HIM, DELETE HIM, AND FOLLOW HIS CHANNEL http://www.twitch.tv/ikealyou
Idea of deck
Beat everyone. I was trying to change freeze mage deck, so make it playable against druid / control warrior and dont lose its general strengths. I noticed that duplicate makes both those MU's better and including more tempo cards i could finally find decent list.
Dont expect fast and easy games, this deck has some broken synergy but you must make an effort to win. And also dont try it in aggro meta, it will work mostly against dragon priests, druids and control warriors.
This deck loses to Secret Paladin, any suggestions?
Deck was playable in controlish/tempo meta(priests, druids, warriors), replacing frostbolts with esplosive sheeps can help much vs paladins, but be careful with secrets in other MU's then, dont duplicate sheeps against warriors, druids etc.
Whats your win condition?
It doesnt have certain win condition, you can play in many different ways.
1. The most sweet is effigy and duplicate on your Emperor followed by Archimage with another secrets :D
Your opponents have to trade all this stuff on board but at the same time they are making situation even worse if they do.
1. Outvalue your opponent, works against any aggro.
2. You steal tempo with early doomsayer and lead the game on board.
3. You chill and watch in safety behind walls of belchers :D
4. Nobody knows how portal on t2 can change your gameplan.
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Twilight Drake vs Water Elemental
I didnt like Drakes because of the way people play around secrets. Nobody wants to kill a drake expecting duplicates, but elementals are annoying, they block weapons, druid's hero power, they arent saying what secret you have up so people may think you are tempo mage and make more mistakes against you.
Loatheb vs Nexus-Champion Saraad
Well, I dont have second card, but it can make your games more fun if you put Nexus.
WTF Portal?
It's a spell for Archimage, your turn 2(because frostbolt or doom you cant just play), reduced legendary/high drop, which can be broken with effigy in early game.
Matchups:
The best are: control warrior, druid, handlock
Good ones: any priest, midrange pala, tempo mage
50/50: mech decks, zoo, secret paladin, midrange hunter
Bad: face hunter, midrange shaman(assuming, because of hex)
I'm still experimenting and testing this deck, if you are interested, you can follow my stream:
http://www.twitch.tv/minntzu
Not streaming till i'm top 1 though.
Update: - 1Polymorph, + 1Portal, - Loatheb, + Healbot
Thijs made these changes, I agree with them and I hope its better for current meta. If you want to learn deck, I recommend to watch his latest streams: http://www.twitch.tv/thijshs/profile
Also learn from Eloise, she only plays this deck last time: http://www.twitch.tv/eloise_ailv/profile
If you'd like to see gameplay vs different types of priests, watch video from Khristophesaurus: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXIFbzQ1VUA
I'm really glad that there are people who believe in the idea of control mage and help to improve my deck. You are awesome.
nice deck.
в друзья можно?
this is like a freeze/control mage hybrid. i like the idea
Just went 3-0. I don't see what you could be doing wrong or if you are just mad.
Serious? Freeze mage is a tier 1 deck. Maybe post some vids of your gameplay so we can offer suggestions.
This deck is only for legend players playing in legend ranking, we us mortals shouldn't even attemp to use this kind of forces achieved only by the gods of games.
Tried this on the new ladder, 8/10 losed games.
We're not worthy
Played the deck 9 wins out of 10 games so far. You're doing smth wrong.
I've made a lot of changes, now list looks like this: http://imgur.com/XtKT5nv
Only trying it in legend, normal freeze mage is very good for climb before, so no need to develop anything new
is this changes for Ladder? I mean should we play ladder with updated version and play ranked with original version with Alex?
btw the deck is very very hard to play (i'm not ranked call me newbie) but full of fun and gorgeous.
last one thing could you explain me why this deck good for ranked play and to hard to play for ladder? what is the difference. I ask because i've never played ranked anyway.
Thanks.
ladder = ranked, there is no difference. i dont like version with alex anymore. i wouldnt say it is good for ranked, it is just playable and able to show good results. yeah, every missplay often costs a game, but this is what i enjoy, you must play perfect and think a lot
Against what decks this mage is bad? Against aggro, or this is decent against all?
Deck is fun but it performs Horribly
Careful now! If you criticize a popular deck people will downvote your comment cause you aren't a sheep who just throws them upvotes! :D /s
Or maybe you just don't know how to play it ?
Hi everybody, my name is Vicky (Zetaliowka). I'm current top 1 EU
In ladder and especially in current ladder, this deck is awful. When you are legend it's an easy way to get into the top 100 because it performs amazing there.
But this deck is NOT for climbing ladder, and especially more so now since it's an aggro meta.
And I quote from the above guide: "And also dont try it in aggro meta, it will work mostly against dragon priests, druids and control warriors.:
Another quote: "This deck loses to Secret Paladin, any suggestions?" Which...just fyi, ladder is full of right now. In a face hunter/secret pally infested meta last season and this season, this deck gets stomped. But why don't you actually play it yourself and find out, than just say people don't know how to play the deck right, because a guy hit top #1 legend with it (when he was already in legend) He also does not use this deck to climb ladder, and specifically states its awful in an aggro meta. As you can read for yourself.
You are right here, deck is not for climb before legend, and not for the start of season. And also this list is kinda old, it was played 1-2 months before, when paladins wasnt that popular as it is now and priests are rare class atm.
How do you beat Control Warrior with this deck? With Justicar Trueheart it just seems impossible to get their armor down, I haven't been able to win a single matchup against them.
This deck almost plays out like a freeze mage, and just like freeze mage, Control Warrior is a hard counter. Might as well save 30mins of your life and concede.
Its not even close to freeze mage, lol, you shouldnt lose a single game vs control warrior. Dont play duplicate first time you have free 3 mana for it, wait for archimage or emperor, same with effigy, you have a lot of time to wait with secrets and this way they won't have enough removals, you win on board.
Woa what? No you're wrong control warrior is a terrible matchup. I'm rank 3 right now and sitting at 27% winrate according to hearthstats. Deck cannot burn through the extra 20 armor they inevitbly get every game so not enough to kill them, and they have insane removal to get rid of your belchers, to many legendaryys.
You can actually check ihealyou's last video if you click the twitch link this guide posted above and in the first few minutes he explains it won't be control warrior just as freeze mage can't. (by time you get enough damage to set up a lethal in 2-3 turns, they already have 20+ armor. I'm very curious what you're winrate is against control warrior as nobody else I know is beating them with this deck.