Hearthpwn

Well, Questlock started SolitHearth, so it's not your fault.

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My honest read is that this is a strong deck, it's probably going to get nerfed in the future and won't be viable because there's no real counter play here. And that's the biggest problems I have with this deck, yes, it's strong, but it's boring and relies heavily on RNG. I feel like the only times I lose with this deck is due to RNG, either in drawing poorly, not drawing what you need in time or not having enough turn time (which causes mistakes of over drawing or misplaying cards).

Genuinely, it's an AFK type deck where what you do largely doesn't matter up until you have your combo cards, and you don't even need all of them. But it beats everything in the current meta (that I've encountered anyway), so it is strong, as I said. I just see that no one is talking about how boring and unintuitive it is to play so I thought I'd chime in with that for people looking for something viable in the meta to play but not feel like they're wasting their time just mindlessly grinding to Legend.

I think you may be overestimating it. I also think it is quite strong and even underrated but its performances in the meta do not support that. The recent surge of dirty rat in seedlock really hurts you along with a couple other popular poor matchups like odd hunter, taxes paladin, and shadow priest. The flow nerf also did hurt even if not as much as it hurt decks like mozaki or wanker, which is why a lot of people have migrated to the minion version of this deck (of which I've also built on my profile). The rng thing is mostly combo decks in general

Not sure what you mean by "afk" as this version of the deck is incredibly action intensive. Perhaps you mean solitaire? If so welcome to the wild meta game etc. etc. The deck has been nerf edand it's matchup spread isn't as good as you seem to think like I said. although it has some really great winning matchups and I'm probably about even with the best deck, it's losing matchups that I mentioned are quite prevalent. You also have the potential to fold to any aggro deck that gets a fast enough start. Demon hunter in particular can really highroll you.

Different strokes for different folks, my guy. I enjoy comboing off and apming. Building up for that one slam dunk. Even doing crazy things like assembling lethal on turn 6 against a double mana burn. The explosiveness can be really fun. 

I mean you can see the rank I hit with the deck right there so evidently it's not garbage.

Pretty cool deck

Is a joke right? This is thr worst mage deck ive ever seen in wild, absolutely useless, you have to draw your entire deck to do something

Thanks!

Thanks for the writeup. I saw this list on hsreplay and have played it a bit. I have lost games to rat/mutanus due to missing my window on turns 5-7, but I agree with your assessment that it's stronger against those cards than mozaki or the luna variant of ignite mage. And maybe I play the deck too greedily anyway.

Any thoughts on the mulligan? I'm looking hard for flow & ancient mysteries but I wonder when to keep minions, if it's worth keeping elemental evo with chandler, etc.

Yeah the things with mutanus in rat are that ever since stormwind people have been playing them much less so I've only really had 7 or so rats played against me and no mutani's in ~200 games. Usually the first rat will whiff and then the second will hit either apprentice or chandler but I'll just have a second. Perhaps I'm just lucky.

My mulligan is very similar. Always keep flow or mysteries no matter what but I'll also always keep AI. The games I lose are more often than not games where my hand gets stuck full of dead end cards like apprentice, mirror, and a bunch of discounters so arcane intellect giving me two random cards rather than mulliganing it and just getting 1 random card is really good in my opinion. 

The more situational keeps for me are:

against the most aggressive decks (basically anything as or more aggressive than shadow priest) I will keep ice block as well,

against decks with very specific high priority targets (like cannon, 1/3 in shadow priest, far watch post in any deck that runs it, or like 3 different odd dh minions) I will keep first flame as it usually gives you at least an extra turn or two if you do that especially in the case of dh,

against decks I can mill (other combo mages, seedlock, renopriest, pillager rogue) I will keep research project because in a world where you can mill them with it, it often feels like better AI, 

and lastly I've been keeping chandler more just in general but usually always going second because of the extra card. I wasn't doing this for the longest time but I've lost too many games to just clogging my hands with both of my other combo pieces and discounting cards. Chandler is the only one you can actually use before the combo turn just to draw so it's never stuck in your hand. Often, if you have chandler, apprentice, and a hand full of junk you can still go off and just draw into your molten. If you know the matchup will be slow for whatever reason then I would always keep chandler and even springwater.

And my nichest mulligan advice is if you know they're an alignment deck, keep both minions. Apprentice after an allignment turn often wins you the game and if you have both minions you can win even if they tog combo you. Edit: In hindsight this one works for all combo decks besides stuff like glare. Particularly, other mages and pillager rogue

How do you have infinite ignites? What am I missing here?

Apprentice reduces cost, Chandler draws a card when you play a fire spell. If your deck has no spells in it, playing ignite with chandler on board will draw the ignite shuffled into your deck.

I think I am missing something about this deck. I was able to get the combo active on a couple games, and even playing as soon as my turn starts, I was only able to do about half their health in damage before my turn was over. The animation to shuffle and draw is extremely slow and if you draw anything other than an Ignite then it's even slower. You claim that animations aren't an issue so what's the trick?

This can help some https://www.reddit.com/r/BobsTavern/comments/gr7hvr/one_step_to_speed_up_animation_and_boost/

Otherwise, it's just an APM deck. You need to be purposeful about getting your combo going as quickly as possible. Every second counts and the turns will often be tight no matter what.

uh I don't know that there is necessarily a trick. If you have to draw through 20 or more cards it will be very very hard but I've been able to do it relatively consistently (occasionally I do mess up) with no tricks or anything like that. I don't know what else to say besides you gotta be fast. A thing I can think of that definitely helps is trying to get your opponent to 29 health as that will be one whole less ignite required on the combo turn. Make sure you are also actually queuing up your draw spells so that you will draw through your deck a lot faster rather than just playing fire spells. Another thing I've been doing in that same avenue is casting my second reflection on chandler so that he will start drawing me double fire spells from my deck. If you do this though you have to make sure you play your flows and mysteries with no targets and biscuits first (preferably during an animation) so that you don't burn cards from your deck. The last little tip is that if you have both of your ignites in your hand right before you would go infinite and play them both, I've had a lot more success actually getting the damage out because you can cast the next ignite while the prior one's animation is going, rather than having to frame perfect catch the ignite each time you draw it. 

Probably placebo but after 10 games playing the deck with that change it actually seemed to really help out. I feel like I have a little room to think on my combo turn now. Thanks!