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Quote from laadeedaa >>

@ALKMSTD, I read your forum post and decided to take a look at your decklist here.

 

The deck looks very bad for these reasons. You have a win condition of Chef Nomi and Archivist Elysiana. How do you plan on getting through your deck to make use of those cards? You will lose to almost every aggro, midrange and honestly most combo and control decks as well. Your deck has no way of clearing a board to stay alive. 

 

Look at the cards that have basically NO synergy in your deck. You have Redemption, Blessing of Wisdom and Lightforged Blessing in your deck, but you only have 4 minions? Were you using these spells on you 1/1 hero powers? These spells serve nearly no purpose in the deck. 

 

Now this deck will not be good, but it can kind of help show how your concept "could" be made.

https://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/1268847-nomi-prismatic

 

Now you can start to see the draw synergies and the board clear synergies that MIGHT keep you alive long enough to play Chef Nomi.

 

These are the things you need to look at when building a deck. EACH AND EVERY CARD has to be working together in some way to serve some overall goal. 

 Thanks for this. I reworked it a bit here https://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/1268580-understaffed-ii-66-7-lose-rate

it has more synergy I think I also lowered my Lose rate (ﾉД`)

@ALKMSTD, I read your forum post and decided to take a look at your decklist here.

The deck looks very bad for these reasons. You have a win condition of Chef Nomi and Archivist Elysiana. How do you plan on getting through your deck to make use of those cards? You will lose to almost every aggro, midrange and honestly most combo and control decks as well. Your deck has no way of clearing a board to stay alive. 

Look at the cards that have basically NO synergy in your deck. You have Redemption, Blessing of Wisdom and Lightforged Blessing in your deck, but you only have 4 minions? Were you using these spells on you 1/1 hero powers? These spells serve nearly no purpose in the deck. 

Now this deck will not be good, but it can kind of help show how your concept "could" be made.

https://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/1268847-nomi-prismatic

Now you can start to see the draw synergies and the board clear synergies that MIGHT keep you alive long enough to play Chef Nomi.

These are the things you need to look at when building a deck. EACH AND EVERY CARD has to be working together in some way to serve some overall goal. 

I replied but not sure where it went lol here’s my revision https://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/1268580-understaffed-ii-66-7-lose-rate

It looks like it will still be suffering from the same issues. You added more minions and that could slightly help some of the survival issues, but not really. 

Here are some key points:

1. You added Proud Defender which is good, but what if it is drawn by Jepetto Joybuzz? It will now become useless and one of the cards that Jepetto Joybuzz needed to draw is still in the deck at full cost.

2. You have Hakkar, the Soulflayer in the deck as a possible win condition, but how are you killing it off? It is very weak to any Silence effect. Your win condition has to be CLEAR CUT AND SUPER STRONG. Hakkar can be a win condition, but you have to survive till you play him, he can't be Silenced or you basically lose, and other decks have to be UNABLE to deal with this strategy. Hakkar kind of sucks in that way because it will almost NEAR be a 100% win condition eveny when the Deathrattle triggers. Any other deck that plays Archivist Elysiana has a way to counter the Blood spells. These are things you need to take into account when building a deck.

3. You will still basically just outright die to any aggressive deck. You don't have a playable minion until turn 3 in a best case scenario.

Those are the biggest glaring weakpoints, but don't give up. Keep trying and more importantly LEARNING! GL!

From that deck I created this one. https://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/1270107-survivalist-ma-duel-uh-57-3-lose-rate#c6

I ranked from 20 to 13 pretty quickly which for me is pretty ok because I always make my own decks. I really appreciate you taking the time to give pointers thanks. 

Basically I try to get my bigs out ASAP and Out Duel my enemy. 

Damn! Rank 13 with that deck seems pretty good! Still see quite a bit of anti-synergy such as the smaller minions and Duel. Also pulling Archivist Elysiana from Duel seems terrible.

Glad to see Equality, Consecration and the Wild Pyromancers. These cards will be huge in the survival aspect. 

Certainly some good changes. I'd recommend taking out Humility and adding something like Repentance. That will keep the smaller spell synergy with Prismatic Lens, but have better synergy with your bigger minions like Shirvallah, Tyrion and Glass Knight. Also with the removal of Prince Liam, Hakkar seems worse in a way. Sword of Justice seems like filler and could probably be replaced with another Consecration or Equality. Even Truesilver Champion seems like a better fit with the heal aspect.

Those are just a few little ideas. Good luck with the climb!

Quote from Tarious >>

Theres no win condition. 

 

Turn this into a Hakkar deck. Have ways to heal and control until you can get Hakkar out and killed, then play the arcanist that replaces your deck.

 I did HAKKAR DECK. And Reposted that deck take a look and if you have the time any advice would be appreciated.

Quote from Kiloneie >>

 You do know how to make a deck right ? This deck doesn't do anything... you are somehow supposed to survive with these cards until you play Chef Nomi... I am running a Handlock, others are running other class control decks, heavy removals to remove constant damage to the face along with healing and a win condition via extreme value.

Now this deck... all you do is heal, some random spells that have no place here, Chef Nomi... You don't have any removal, any taunts,, anything to stop them from killing you.

Im super new to deck building lol.  I know I changed out a couple of spells Ill update and thanks for your honest observation.

Quote from Tarious >>

Theres no win condition. 

 

Turn this into a Hakkar deck. Have ways to heal and control until you can get Hakkar out and killed, then play the arcanist that replaces your deck.

Ill give this a try. Thanks I appreciate the input.

Theres no win condition. 

Turn this into a Hakkar deck. Have ways to heal and control until you can get Hakkar out and killed, then play the arcanist that replaces your deck.

 You do know how to make a deck right ? This deck doesn't do anything... you are somehow supposed to survive with these cards until you play Chef Nomi... I am running a Handlock, others are running other class control decks, heavy removals to remove constant damage to the face along with healing and a win condition via extreme value.

Now this deck... all you do is heal, some random spells that have no place here, Chef Nomi... You don't have any removal, any taunts,, anything to stop them from killing you.

https://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/1268580-understaffed-ii-66-7-lose-rate

HERES THE UPDATE BUT ITS A TOTALLY NEW DECK（╹◡╹）

Best Case situation. Of course this is after the dude played Brawl :) Killed all my 6/6 a Elementals