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is this still good after aviana nerf and also RR?

Aviana'nerf now also prevents the Psycomelon from drawing the complete combo (as both Aviana and Kun cost 10). Doesn't the decreased speed makes it way harder against aggro and midrange?

Well, I doubt the deck will survive the nerfs. I was finding it quite hard to climb with even before, given all the metagame hate and the powerful aggro decks, that really limited the time available to get the combo.

The nerf to Aviana not only forces us to use something like the coin the combo out, but also makes Psychomelon worse as it can't get the whole combo in one cast. We will usually need to wait until we draw either Aviana or Kun , and then cast the melon for the other one, and all the rest of the combo.

As I've said, I don't really think the deck will stay competitive, but just for the sake of deckbuilding: what can we change? To be able to play the combo we need at least one or more of the following:

• Innervate(one or two): it's a decent card of it's own, and the main way to combo with Aviana. I would use two, but I wonder if this forces us to cut other mana ramp like Biology Project..
• Twig of the World Tree: I had made some tests with Twig and it's wasn't that bad: also very good that you can break it by casting Medivh first (you can find more words about it in a previous post of mine). However it can be countered by a simple ooze, so it can't be our only way to trigger Aviana.
• Flobbidinous Floop: we can just cast Aviana, pass, and if she has not survived, just cast Floop as Aviana and combo out. This makes Floop now definitely a better choice than the Brewmaster
• Emperor Thaurissan: another way to discount Aviana, and having some discount on other cards too, given our powerful draw engine, isn't bad at all

So, let's try:

-1 ancient brewmaster (the second floop/brewmaster was useful only in the druid mirror, and I don't think we will find many now)

- 1 Witchwood piper (useful, but not mandatory, and we are going to be slower anyway now, so no so much rush into getting Bran)

- 1 Poison Seed (not that mandatory anyway, but a single hard removal like Mulch or Naturalize may prove to be needed anyway)

-1 Loatheb (I REALLY like Loatheb, but I just can't find any other slot apart from cutting one from the Innervate-BiologyProject four cards set. I would probably opt do to that in the end. Loatheb in particular is necessary against control mage and odd warrior, and quite useful any time you can't go for a full combo

+1 Emperor Thaurissan

+1 Twig of the World Tree

+2 Innervate

I would also think about swapping the jasper spellstones into Wraths: I have always been uncertain about which was the best, and I think it just depends on the match. But with all the mana ramp, we really risk having a low threat/draw card density. Wraths can be cycled into relevant cards, and that may be necessary.

I know this deck gets a ton of hate across the forums and it's supposedly the spawn of Satan here to destroy Hearthstone, but I just love to play it. It's a lot akin to just sneaking into the kitchen at night and eating chocolate, and guilty pleasures of that sort. I wish it wasn't hated this much, because it really is some clever design.

Still great deck at rank 15-10. Thank You.

How are you all holding against aggressive decks?
Reading through the guide it looks really easy and ideal of course but in reality, unless you draw plague or paths you're going to lose the match hard. I've had no luck against aggressive decks especially and mainly even shaman. Plus with all these counter queuing with reno-warlocks and rats along with deathlords, playing this deck is really hard at the moment. Before you flame me with really obvious thing such as mulligan or so, I'm talking about matchups and luck draws in general. Putting aside these facts its a great deck in general but not as easy to deal against some matchups. So regarding the people that are saying this deck is braindead and broken, I'm not going to deny it but alot of matchups can completely shred this deck into pieces.

As you said, in vacuum this deck is really strong, but on a ladder like the Wild one, where at high rank you can easily match the same opponent multiple times, it can get really rough. I reached rank 2 quite easily with this deck, and got to the half of rank 1, but getting to legend was becoming pretty hard for that exact reason: too many shamans and warlocks (and even paladin can be hard if you miss swipe/plague). In the end I switched to Odd Rogue and reached legend.

I'm at rank 5 at the moment even though I got to rank 4 and a star then deranked all the way back to 5 completely empty. This deck has too many counters during this aggressive meta in my opinion. You guys played it early when this was a thing but I made it pretty much 2 days ago and had no luck with my matchups. Pretty sure during this time that no matter what change you put in this deck, it doesn't change a thing that you get rushed early and your combo gets demolished with the rats and deathlords. Also i forgot to mention that dealing with explosive rune in mages is probably one of the hardest things since most of the times I'm about to combo and they throw in the secret which leaves us hanging there while they hit our faces. The only way to play around it is pretty much just Floop, Piper or Brewmaster. 

Yeah, I got a pretty bad matchup agains secret mage as well, but it was not a common deck, so it wasn't so meaningful. On top of Counterspell and Explosive Runes they sometimes run even a Polymorph Potion as well, which is even worse as with Runes you can even let it kill Aviana, and play F.oop/Aviana next turn, but with Polymorph you can't. In theory you should be able to check the secrets (another reason I liked to play a couple of additional doomsayers, good with aggro too), but that way you lose tempo, and that's everything the mage actually needs to kill you. It's far from unbeatable if you get a good hand, but it's pretty bad anyway.

this deck just got me legend last night! thank you so much for making this deck!

let me guess, you made legend with a homebrew OTK auction-master beerdo paladin.

wake up dude, everyone plays meta decks to hit legend.

i started playing in old gods, and i have played just about all homebrew aside from a cubelock in KaC and this start aligner druid.

Hey I have been playing this deck a bunch at around rank 5. A matchup I'm having trouble against is odd warrior as they always armor out of combo range too quickly and I lose in fatigue. Should I be trying to combo as fast as possible in order to get them before they armor out of range or play for fatigue and not draw at all?

If they lack (or miss) disruptions like dirty rat, it's quite easy: just run Loatheb and combo out together with Bran+Loatheb. That will prevent them from using Brawl or any other spell. In addition to the combo damage, you will be free to get an attack (even two, if you later Floop/Brewmaster Loatheb again). Keeping a Branching Paths to use the +1 attack twice for that attack is also advisable if they REALLY armored up a lot. You can't lose this way, but avoiding the dirty rat from pulling out your combo pieces is another story: that's why I prefer to run some additional minions to better resist disruptions.

Ah thank you I don't have loatheb so that was my issue i guess.

loatheb is a great craft, you wont regret it.

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I'm perfectly fine with your statement and i can't agree more on the fact this deck was a meta changer as it became popular. Im not sure it's still really broken anymore, since there are some stronger decks now that are doing fine against this. Druid certainly deserves some nerfes in general, though.

With respect, it's still broken. Yes, people can play to counter it, but if you don't it's really hard, and you're toast once you get all the pieces, which is easy to do given all the ramp and stall this deck has. Even if there are stronger decks out there, it doesn't make this one less broken.

That said, I really, REALLY love your innovation. You took a card that everyone laughed at and made a broken combo with it. Bravo! Full stop.

I’ve been playing this deck since the new season started and I’m loving it. Currently at my highest ranking ever with Rank 3 5 Stars. Have had some really interesting games, but last one takes the cake... Odd Taunt Quest Warrior. He kinda knew what was in my hand, since he copied it a few turns earlier. He was at 60 total health and decided to complete his quest instead of armoring up. My turn starts, I start the combo and he starts bm’ing me. I get the last laugh as I combo him for 60. He must have thrown his device after that...

I loved the idea of this deck when it first came out, but it's become such a cancer in Wild. Needs to be nerfed. Not meant to be a salt post. More of a statement of fact. Bring your rage/response as you see fit. Thanks. End of line.

Every1 comes up with "Spreading Plague is good against Even Shaman, chances of win REALLY go up by playing plague"...

They come with Devolve having enough minions out their own and you are fucked. Had 5 Shamans iar and lost EVERY fu time due to them playing Devolve.

I don't think there's anything effective against it or do I forget/miss anything?  I don't mind losing against stronger decks, some just simply are. But how the fu do chances REALLY go up by playing Spreading Plague ?