Xzirez: Token Miracle (Legend #2 Twice S7+S8)
- Last updated Nov 29, 2014 (Naxx Launch)
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Wild
- 12 Minions
- 18 Spells
- Deck Type: Ranked Deck
- Deck Archetype: Unknown
- Crafting Cost: 6680
- Dust Needed: Loading Collection
- Created: 10/6/2014 (Naxx Launch)
- Xzirez
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Region:
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Total Deck Rating
1986
Legend on asia got in at rank 11 legend two losses from rank 7- legend. Took me a couple hours met a lot of priest and other miracles. Legend on eu got in at rank 43. Took around 4 hours from 3-legend on eu had some trouble because off hunters rank 8-3 was one big winning streak for the most part around 80%+ win rate. For proof go on my stream and watch when i play dont wanna upload picture as people will always say its photoshopped. Twitch.tv/vbsof
Thx too donnie aka voltarin for helping me make this deck and a lot others:) Twitch.tv/epicvoltarin
Got #2 this season aswell. forgot to take a picture at #2 but took on at #3 at thats were I'm currently at.
Meta Slots For Counters Too Different Decks:
Zoo: Edwin, Earthern,Belcher,Senjin.
Handlock: Iladin, Two Sap, Owl, Two Sinister.
Shaman: Two Blade Flurry, Any Weapon, Bloodmage.
Hunter: Ooze, Owl, Belcher, A lot of aoi,earthern.
Mirror: South seadeckhand, Shade, Shadow step for loatheb.
Priest: Double Azure, Illadin edwin + loatheb in same deck, senjin, ysera(only if priest is only class).
Warrior: Illadin, Double conceal always, cairne, double sap, assasins blade.
Freeze Mage: Illadin always, Edwin,shadow step for loatheb, two farseers for heal,ragnaros(only if freeze mage is only deck)
Mulligan:
Its very hard too set general rules for mulligan when it comes too miracle rouge so these are not always accurate
Huntard: Backstab,preperation, si7 (if you have a combo card), evis(if combo card), fan of knives, deadly posion.
Warrior: Actiouneer, shade, deadly posion nothing else.
Priest: Backstab, Deadly posion,shade,earthern si7, Acitouneer,Azure drake(if good hand), Loatheb(If good hand)
Zoo: Same as huntard.
Handlock: Actiouneer, Violet,Sap, Any 3 drop,Eviscerate.
Druid: Minions, Sap(not always), Backstab, fan of knives(if token build)
Paladin: Actiouneer, Minions, Deadly posion,fan of knives.
Mirror: Actiouneer, Always loatheb, All Minions, Backstab, Shiv.
Mage: Concede if they play ice block my win rate is close too 0%.
Some matchups you need too look at how many cards they mulligan like warlock. Here are some mulligan rules too see what there hand early on might look like.
Warlock: The more cards they mulligan the more likely there handlock.
Druid: If they keep two cards keep sap or removal.
Mirror: If they keep there whole hand or have coin keep sap incase of edwin.
Priest: The more cards they mulligan the less removal you need to keep. If they keep 2 cards dont mulligan sap.
Hunter: The more cards they keep the more cards you need to mulligan too get removal.
Shaman: The more cards they keep the more cards you need to mulligan too get removal.
Reading Opponents Hand/Plays:
An important aspect off any card game is being able too ready your opponents plays. There are different hints your opponent gives off during a game as too what cards he might or might not have. These hints are even more importan for a miracle rouge too read since the combo aspect of rouge means you need too setup for a lot of your plays. For example miracle rouges that dont attack with dagger turn two often has a hand with lot of removal and minions that they want too play in the up coming turns. Im going too list a couple of things people do that indicates what there hand is. These might not always work in lower levels of ladder since players often do missplays like playing in too a removal card for example
1: If your opponent is setting up for a big turn they will always try and remove your board. An example is if priest are setting up for a ysera or cairne which are cards that needs a clear board in order too not be removed or put the player behind they will always kill cards they fell will be hard too remove. If you have a loatheb on board and the opponent knows you have ragnaros and alextrasa in your deck they might "waste" there removal on loatheb if there setting up for a big play next turn in order too not fall behind. When you see your opponent making trades you fell are not neccessary hes most likely setting up for big play in the upcoming turns and these are the turns were you set up a good board clean or just fill the board with minions they have too remove so they fall behind.
2: If your opponent has a full hand off cards and he decides too skip 2-4 mana it means one off three things: One hes trying too setup for a good trade with a aoi spell and there for wants you too play a lot of minions, Two hes hand is full of useless spells that he needs to save for a big minion or certain combo cards in his deck, Three hes trying too not get destroyed by one off your aoi spells or counter spells to his cards. If your opponent does one off these plays try and read hes earlyer plays or bait him for one turn meaning you do a play that makes him think your hand is crap making him over commit to the board or waste spells.
3: Try and see too what degree you opponent is playing around certain cards/combos. If your opponent is trying too play around everything he has a bad hand and thinks your hand is amazing. If your opponent never play around anything he has a really good hand or is just a really bad player.
4: Look at were the cards your opponent are playing comes from in there hand. If your opponent is saving hes left card for 8 turns its most likely a card like : Black knight, bgh, Execute. If your opponent is top decking the card he plays each turn the rest off hes hand is spells or high cost minions, if your opponent does this you need to try and either out draw him or be greddy with your trades.
Cards:
I cut edwin for a shade because edwin means the deck has 5 targets that consume spells which is too much. Shade is slower but dosent take your whole hand to use.
Loatheb is one of the cards that made token miracle possible. It locks your opponent down for one turn and lets you play spells to create tokens for next turn which is not going to get killed because of his battle cry.
Violet teacher is the early game core of the deck and allows for a early game threat that often creates 1-3 tokens the turn it gets played. If this card dosent get killed the turn it gets played you win the game 90% of the time in my experience.
I cut some cards like blade flurry and one azure drake too make room for more damage spells like cold blood and sinister strike which is cards i feel the deck needs too win control games. The double cold blood + sinister strike needs too be played as long as warrior is a meta deck.
The problem i first faced with miracle after the nerf was finding a list that worked well. i tried building a token version for a while but couldn't get it too work properly. My original list last season was just a few cards different from this one but i still wouldn't be able to get a good winrate because the cards i werent using were extremely key cards and the cards i were using instead of these had no real value in a token build. Since I've been playing the OTK lerroy miracle for the last 7 seasons i also had too get used to playing a different build. I found small things like hitting more with dagger and not saving all spells for draw made me win games the old miracle was much more conservative and drawing cards was the way you would win. with this deck i found i only need to draw 1-3 cards and i never have the time too wait for a huge draw turn.
Miracle is the ONLY deck i am able too win almost every game with on a good day, no other decks does this for me. I dont know if the deck has more options then other decks and therefore always has a good chance off winning but i feel like i am constantly improving with the deck compared too other classes like hunter or warrior were i feel like the plays are mostly set each turn and the only real decisions i have too make is if holding the cards in hand or playing them generates the most value. With miracle i feel like everything i do each turn matters even hitting or keeping blade i find too have a impact on how the games play out. My win rate with miracle was over 80% for a whole week last season and i was able too stay floating around Top 50-10 still playing the game before the patch hit . A lot of people that get top 10 just stop playing and sit there until they start dropping i found this too be extremely boring and i always try and go for rank 1 which i usual fail at since the gap between 5 and 1 is often 10 wins+ in a row.
Can tell you dont play miracle :P Ill put this in desc aswell so others can see: what miracle does is it clears the opponents board with efficient trades like backstab or blade flurry vs aggro then exhaust there hand and draw your whole deck. This deck has more early drops/ board pressure then standard miracle had so it should in theory be even better vs aggro. Main way i win with this deck is by concealing something then dealing lethal over 1-3 turns.cold blood a minion then play loatheb is a great way of keeping board pressure Vs control while using violet teacher + prep with spells or just concealing violet is a easy way too trade 1/1 tokens with your opponents low health minions Vs aggro. Since hunter dont need a lot of board too do anything atm its just broken af and the hardest matchup for any deck since theres few ways too interact with there board(since they have none). Miracle is also hard to play one small mistake vs a bad matchup will lose you the game. Keeping early removal or early board pressure vs aggro is crucial. And ALWAYS keep prep vs hunter if you dont mulligan for prep you will lose, JJ102 put this in a good way "its like innervate vs hunter just better" innervate being one off if not the best card in the game.
That's pretty convincing. I've been a fan of your Hunter deck in the past, Xzirez, so I probably should be a bit less alarmed by experimentation in the Miracle build. Besides, any top-tier list without Edwin leaves me happy as I don't own him. :D However, I'd like to know the reason for cutting Bloodmage Thalnos. Since you include the double Drakes, I don't see why he couldn't be in there, too.
what is "Iladin"?
Illidan Stormrage, though he's not in the deck anymore. Xzirez typoed here since English isn't his native language from my understanding.
Probably Illidan, unless you seriously can't figure out that maybe the poster's native language isn't english...
Had no clue how to write his name so i just wrote something:P Most off my typos is because im lazy so i just write something too make myself understood instead off letter-for-letter correct
Updated the list with some new cards: Reached Top 20 today with this new one gonna try and get Top 3 on stream. Forgot too take a picture when i was top 20 took one at 32 : http://imgur.com/qn78UWo
Edit: Reached Top 10 today gonna get Top 3 tommorow.
Holy shit I actually got credit for helping someone in their main title page on deck architecture?! "I can die a happy man now!" LMAO "Thanks Vittles aka Xzirez" ! :P
"I'll always be here to help out in the future best of luck getting rank #1 EU with our creation"
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~Donnie aka "Epic Voltarin"
Could i just ask why perditions blade? i feel like another si 7 agent or earthen ring farseer would fit better, great deck btw
It was mainly for hunter but removed it now for second earthern.
switched him for belcher or azure not sure which one yet :) Hes too slow against hunters thats it.
Hello Xzirez, thx for your list and your stream. Very instructive :)
I suffer a lot vs hunter/zoo (66% of my meta at rank 5/3 EU). Kind of nightmare, even with an adapted build (or a build i think suitable)
Something i recently figured help again hunter is always keeping prep this made me win more of my hunter games. Started doing this yesterday and im seeing a much higher winrate. Against zoo you should add edwin and double si7. You should also use double fan against both of these matchups instead of double shiv. Always mulligan for backstab and violet teacher in both .miracle is in theory what should have the highest win Rate against these decks and before s6 these were easy matchups for me.
why i don't see Illidan in that deck? (i don't know if i'm crazy but i don't see illidan)
Took him out today because i have been seeing so much hunter on ladder and hes actually too slow for this matchup. Today there wasent much hunter so he would actually be good today but you never know what your gonna face. I constantly change the deck so cards get added and removed all the time.
Play some different cards i dont play against zoo at all on ladder so this list is tilted against other decks. ill make a list of meta cards soon
Sweet deck! Thanks for sharing it. I just played 5 games and won 4 at rank 14, climbing into 13. I've always loved the miracle rogue playstyle, but the old versions of the deck (Leeroy and Malygos) are too slow these days. This list feels super powerful though and it allows you to dominate a match from the very beginning. At its best it's totally unfair and OP, which is exactly what I like in a deck. :)
I too am short Illidan so I used Hogger for the 2/2 tokens each turn. The taunt is nice on them too.
You mentioned being ranked legend #11 and proof on your stream.... BUT Just FYI your stream only shows you at legend rank 100+ , might want to stream some more to show current proof! Incase you didn't know that ^^ cool deck though!
I dont have proof for this season on stream off anything higher then 40 i think, I played too rank 4 off stream. The top 50 first players that get legend early in the season are all off the roughly same skill level and the only think that decides whos top 10 or not is a mixture off rng and deck teching. I had proof off being top 5 all the 3 previous seasons but twitch deletes my videos all the time. If you want proof just ask anyone that has ever watched my stream at a earlier point in time as i dont have pictures off this.Its easy too drops ranks in legend so the only way too stay top 3 is by not playing the game at all which is what most top 3 do but myself along with other miracles ive found find this too be extremely boring.