[K&C] OTK Control Rogue
- Last updated Feb 7, 2018 (Patches Nerf)
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Wild
- 9 Minions
- 19 Spells
- 1 Weapon
- Deck Type: Theorycraft
- Deck Archetype: Mill Rogue
- Crafting Cost: 6740
- Dust Needed: Loading Collection
- Created: 1/31/2018 (Kobolds Patch)
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Battle Tag:
Liid#1742
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Region:
US
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Total Deck Rating
898
ReEdit:
Thanks to the patch, I was able to check how Malygos works and... it sucks tbh... Evolved Kobold works much better and your draw is more consistent. So meme Kobold is back!
Comment:
I know that some people keep on talking trash saying that the deck is well... trash, and I understand the deck is unplayable (for now). But as soon as aggro chills, it will get better. The deck was meant as an Idea (and to enter a giveaway by KiwiinBacon (he explains in the video about the giveaway)). Sorry if you guys got hyped up but soon it will happen!
Edit 2:
It came to my attention what you guys were saying about Malygos. Thus, I decided to change both Evolved Kobolds for Malygos and Counterfeit Coin
Edit:
Changed Novice Engineer for Bloodmage Thalnos (In my defense I don't have that card!).
If I get at least 10 upvotes I will make a complete guide on how to use it :)
Hey guys! Thanks for the 10+ upvotes :)
As for how this deck is played, what you want to do is:
Evolved Kobold x2 > Preparation > Eviscerate > Preparation > Eviscerate > Sinister Strike x2
Of course, this deck has only that win condition, which is why I implemented the kingsbane. Not only to have that as plan b, but it’s also perfect to clear the board.
For Mulligan, what you will need is stuff to keep on clearing.
Kingsbane, Shiv, Fan of Knives, Cavern Shinyfinder are the best cards to start with. You also don’t have to worry if you don’t start with the OTK cards since you can only use it by turn 10 and up.
If you don’t have Doomerang and Blade Flurry, you can also use Doomsayer instead. They are just as good and maybe even better
KiwiinBacon Made a video and also points out that you don't need to do the combo in a single turn! Hope you guys like his video because I sure did! :)
A Kingsbane deck doesn't need to be OTK, and you need both kobolds to get almost the same effect as Malygos. Doesn't even seem fun to play.
then, don't comment (?
Thanks someone that think the same as me lol
I git a pretty decent win rate with this deck though around 60%
Dont get fooled by the points this deck got - IT IS UNPLAYABLE. At least for now. Just skip.
says theorycraft for a reason... :v
How would you feel about Tainted Zealot as a replacement for Bloodmage Thalnos?
its good but I think card draw is better tbh
Tainted Zealot would be a fine replacement, as with Loot Hoarder and Novice Engineer. The reason why Bloodmage Thalnos is so heavily favored is because the card does both spell damage and card draw in one. The card is meant for utility and not as much about the body. So in this deck the replacement is if you would rather have spell damage or more cycling, and if you ultimately want the combo, I would suggest using a Loot Hoarder as a replacement! :3
This deck felt bad to play and is just bad and feels bad cause it should be fun but it isn't.
Hello my boys!
I have made a showcase of this deck trying to explain the basics of the deck and then showing some action in the games. I am trying to analyze everything I do because I think it can help newer players and maybe teach some veterans as well :). I am open to constructive critism to my videos and I will be happy to hear opinions either of my plays or the video structure so dont hesitate to post some feedback! I hope you can enjoy the video :)
Have a nice day everyone!
Ok so I've been playing the mess out of this deck because I pretty much exclusively play rogue and always love checking out anything new. I STRONGLY disagree with Malygos!
Yes to get the exact OTK combo Malygos makes sense on paper but you're not going to get that combo off every game. As soon as I put the kobolds back in I was finally winning again because you have opportunities to kill your opponent with less mana earlier in the game. I've had plenty of games where I just drop one kobold then evis, prep evis, sinister plus sometimes hitting with a weapon on turn 7. You don't need 30 dmg most of the time so I find the kobolds winning me more games than maly ever did.
I agree, deck functions a lot better with the evolved kobolds, you can even lose one and still get 17 dmg combo's off late game or use one for prep FOK etc.
Looks like fun, my personal changes that may make would be to:
Change 2x Shiv for 2x Sap
Remove 1x Fan of Knives and Bloodmage Thalnos for 2x Elven Ministrels
Maybe even replace the other Fan of Knives for a Evenom Weapon (this seems weird even to me)?
it'll provide you with the ability to send buffed up minions back to hand with the sap (great for assisting with mills). If you run the Elven Ministrels you have the ability to draw your other minions, which aids with either getting your OTK combo or helps with milling their hand if you draw your Coldlight Oracles (and your hand). If you already have your Kingsbane then the Elven Ministrels may help with getting you the Southsea Squidfaces.
Shiv and Fan of Knives are great for drawing cards and assisting with early game aggro, but lose a bit of value later in this deck once control hits. In total that's 4 draws that you get form those cards, which similar to getting 4 minions from the Elven ministrels which can pull minions to help with board control while also giving your side board presence.
Optionally maybe run a Evenom Weapon instead of a fan of knives. This may help with some minions that have high hp low damage or may just help with board control. Consider a turn 3 fan of knives with deals damage to 3 minions all with at least 2 hp, they all survive and all you get is a draw. They get another turn to go face against you, where as if you're going to take face damage anyway, might as well remove a bigger minion or taunt. As the poison is tied to the weapon, your weapon gains value rather than just the 1 draw as the game progresses. If for any reason you're not drawing your other weapon buffs, you still have something for removal.
Now you need a barnes for an extra chance at malygos
"but as soon as aggro chills, this deck will be better."
Bitch, when aggro chills, I'll be a trillionaire and hell will have frozen over.
did you not see the patch..? or that next expansion a lot of aggro will be gone..?
Aggro players will always find a way to win as many games as possible with as little effort as possible. Don't get your hopes too high.
Just as you say, that also applies to control decks
So what you are saying is that control decks require no thinking?
I'd recommend seeing a proctologist in order to get your head out of your ass.